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You remember correctly - I think the jury was still out on him but he stood up in the second half that day. Went on to kick 62 goals the next season when his previous best was 34.
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You remember correctly - I think the jury was still out on him but he stood up in the second half that day. Went on to kick 62 goals the next season when his previous best was 34.
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He certainly did. He was bad in the first half, at one point I remember thinking to myself this guy is costing them, and hasn't developed at all. Then in the second half he was simply dominant. He absolutely destroyed Reid.
rogiebear93 , Brishawk , Slainte and darthmann What a great discussion with well made points. I could not agree more with everything. Callow must have more than marking…. But I would say he already has. A fwd who never loses but sometimes wins… that could be Callow.
No forward is an island as the Hawks and Dunstall found that out in 1992 when he kicked 145 goals!! in a season (wow) and the Hawks only limped into the finals.
One marking forward alone is easy pickings for defenders … or allowable if all other avenues to goal are blocked. But 3 marking forwards who work together (Dunstall, Brereton, and Deer/ Curren/ Abbot) …. eventually one will get off the defensive leash … once one does they all do
For mine Callow needs to be able to beat his man by not getting out-marked, by marking a few himself, and not be run off. Recent training reports have stated that Hartigan struggles … and occasionally loses against Callow in one on ones. Consider that, Hartigan is huge! He was brought to the club to take the huge forwards and he is struggling with a 19 year old. Give Callow a few pre-seasons and Hartigan may more than struggle.
Callow is reportedly a very capable distance runner… did I read that he pushed past Ward in one of the runs (OK… after Ward was tired…but Hartigan was not running past). Few backman will be able to run off him for an easy possession. And he may be able to get back off them on the run back to goal.
I see so many great attributes in Callow besides the obvious size and marking… it is his drive to succeed, his willingness to go to all lengths to achieve his goals … and as an aside, he seems a nice fella (on the talk show… maybe others in the know could speak more about his character).
He may not make it due to things outside his control (I am thinking game plan). Few AFL recruits actually play many games, let alone those in Mid Season Drafts. But I see him with the ball in his hands after beating his defender … time and time again.
I say an ave. of 2.0 goals a game with his defender being ineffectual is what we need from Callow in the next few years. = the same ability to not loose is something we all love in Duke. Win the contest when possible, halve it when you have to, but ensure they never win.
TOB may become something at the WB as he is as ready as he will every be, and good luck to him, but it was his losses in contests that made him a liability in the fwd line for the Hawks for the first …well … so many years.
Another clear trait of Callow‘s is his aggression to get the ball.
Again I say I am all in his corner as I see great possibilities, but also because once BigBoy is gone, we will not have a pack mark specialist. Mitch Lewis needs to run and jump, Kosie is good for 1 pack mark a game chance (love him…but he is better on the lead) and without an out-right fwd marking pillar, our other fwds will be double teamed.
No forward is an island as the Hawks and Dunstall found that out in 1992 when he kicked 145 goals!! in a season (wow) and the Hawks only limped into the finals.
One marking forward alone is easy pickings for defenders … or allowable if all other avenues to goal are blocked. But 3 marking forwards who work together (Dunstall, Brereton, and Deer/ Curren/ Abbot) …. eventually one will get off the defensive leash … once one does they all do
For mine Callow needs to be able to beat his man by not getting out-marked, by marking a few himself, and not be run off. Recent training reports have stated that Hartigan struggles … and occasionally loses against Callow in one on ones. Consider that, Hartigan is huge! He was brought to the club to take the huge forwards and he is struggling with a 19 year old. Give Callow a few pre-seasons and Hartigan may more than struggle.
Callow is reportedly a very capable distance runner… did I read that he pushed past Ward in one of the runs (OK… after Ward was tired…but Hartigan was not running past). Few backman will be able to run off him for an easy possession. And he may be able to get back off them on the run back to goal.
I see so many great attributes in Callow besides the obvious size and marking… it is his drive to succeed, his willingness to go to all lengths to achieve his goals … and as an aside, he seems a nice fella (on the talk show… maybe others in the know could speak more about his character).
He may not make it due to things outside his control (I am thinking game plan). Few AFL recruits actually play many games, let alone those in Mid Season Drafts. But I see him with the ball in his hands after beating his defender … time and time again.
I say an ave. of 2.0 goals a game with his defender being ineffectual is what we need from Callow in the next few years. = the same ability to not loose is something we all love in Duke. Win the contest when possible, halve it when you have to, but ensure they never win.
TOB may become something at the WB as he is as ready as he will every be, and good luck to him, but it was his losses in contests that made him a liability in the fwd line for the Hawks for the first …well … so many years.
Another clear trait of Callow‘s is his aggression to get the ball.
Again I say I am all in his corner as I see great possibilities, but also because once BigBoy is gone, we will not have a pack mark specialist. Mitch Lewis needs to run and jump, Kosie is good for 1 pack mark a game chance (love him…but he is better on the lead) and without an out-right fwd marking pillar, our other fwds will be double teamed.
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I only just saw this. Not really true, DGB was in the top 5 for agility test results that year and he is a KPD. On top of that, rebounding backs are frequently near the top of the agility testing, which means that he is easily stepped around by the players who can do the most damage.I tried to not reply … but I must state the obvious = 1.1 seconds slower than the combine leader is irrelevant. The combine leader, whomever that was, is not a Key Position Backman. I hope opposition teams put their most agile player on Callow… as he will kick 10. (Yes I am being facetious but hey, you started it).
DGB as a KPD? With time, but not just yet. Needs a little more meat on his bones.
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It is the position he was drafted for, that's the point.
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Can anyone who has been at training confirm that Hartigan is officially struggling, because apparently he is because he was out-marked twice in a training drill?
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He’s not.
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You sure? I read only a few weeks back that he lost a contest at training.
Why would you lie & what else are you trying to hide?
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Gave me a chuckle.
For those playing at home, stay with me here…
It’s actually not unusual for a player to lose a contest at training and not be struggling.
Let’s introduce squid game rules at training. Up our game from Simon says. That will sort out who is struggling and who is notGave me a chuckle.
For those playing at home, stay with me here…
It’s actually not unusual for a player to lose a contest at training and not be struggling.
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Can only comment on the session I watched, where he was getting beaten by Callow in multiple contests. He gave away a free kick in one in the square and was arguing with the umpire about it. I was quite close to them, he seemed very frustrated.
It seems the same kind of thing happened the next week (last week) too.
Make of that what you will. Personally I don't think you can really say he's struggling based on that, but more he was just getting beaten on those days, which is bound to happen from time to time.
Hasn’t he slimmed down a bit? I wonder if he is one of those guys where the extra size actually helps him
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Even the top line defenders will lose around 20% of their 1:1sGave me a chuckle.
For those playing at home, stay with me here…
It’s actually not unusual for a player to lose a contest at training and not be struggling.
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Ironically given the thread Callow needs to go back he would make a great defender
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I’m not sure. He’s probably not quick enough or nimble on his feet.
Forwards would turn him inside out, which I have seen at training on occasion.
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Two goals a game is nearly 50 a season and would make him an A grader if he did that for a few years.
Collins-Langford-Ayres, I did not say or imply that Hartigan was struggling in general, which is what you are implying,… I call poor form on you for suggesting that. Hartigan is likely in the best form of his career and will do the job for which he was recruited.
I said that reports (not stated in my post but were from one of Axe, 4xP or others at training) was that Hartigan was struggling to beat, or halve the contest, against Callow. That is to say, Callow, at age 19, is making the man mountain that is Hartigan, struggle in a test of strength.
I ask, how many players could go into a test of strength against this guy (see below) and not be beaten let alone halve the contest, or even mark the ball?
Yes Callow has his negatives, but if he can match it (at age 19) with a hulk veteran of 10 years… he has worthwhile attributes.
Tony Lockett (191cm) was one of the greatest full forwards of all time and had the turning circle of a bus. Yes defenders have gotten taller and more agile, and game plans have changed, but if a young Tony Lockett came on the scene today, would there be a place for him? Surely yes.
Callow is no Tony Locket… in fact Callow has a much better tank, better agility, and is more suited to the modern game. But he has similar hands, aggression and strength in the contest.
He is what I think the Hawks need deep at FF to retain our structures (though Kosi also does this job adequately,… but please never never Lewis or Jeka who need to move to have effect).
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Callow doing some ruck work in BH.
With his side light on for genuine ruck options, Jackson Callow put his hand up to shoulder the bulk of the Hawks’ stoppage work
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12 disposals - 7 marks (4 contested) - 10 hit-outs - 2 goals
He will debut during the second half of the year.
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His marking was very impressive in this one.
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Can clunck a mark can't he? Impressive hands
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He's 19 from memory. Has a future. Big unit.
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