News Welcome to Hawthorn Jon Patton : Retired

[KermitJagger]

He offered us a lot more in the forward line in this game than we'd had previously. Got a bit of anger in him with the delivery which is fine in my book.

Also copped one of the worst push in the back non-decisions I've seen in recent years on the wing later in the game.

 

[Roddy]

Lewis and the General are the future of our forward line for the next 5-6 years, I have no doubt about that. Fitness permitting of course.

 

[WWSD]

Patton did well to get to the right spots, but the delivery to him was poor.

 

[Flukey!]

I still feel we have the makings of a good forward line if both Patton and Lewis can get on the park at the same time.
I dont think we will see it this year but next year yes.

 

[cryptor]

I would like to see him barrel through a few defenders Lockett style so they are nervy standing on the hole. Teach those kicking into the 50 to put the ball on the defenders head and let him rip

He should be making "genuine attempts" at every pack. Clearing the way for Gunston and O'Brien to come through straight after.

 

[GerryLewis]

Let’s face it, we really need him to find some form. A winning kpf would make us a lot better.

I don't disagree but I think once he finds his timing and the ball starts coming in a a bit more shallower (not sure if that's even a word), then he'll be a real handful.

 

[Roddy]

If and when we improve our ball movement and our delivery into the forward line, both the General and Lewis will become real weapons.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Glad he got through injury free. Looks like he needs to lose some kegs to assist his mobility, agility and being able to get off the ground.

 

[tommyk72]

Good signs. Hopefully he can build and get full confidence back by the end of the year and hit the ground running in 2021.

 

[PhatHQ]

I would like to see him barrel through a few defenders Lockett style so they are nervy standing on the hole. Teach those kicking into the 50 to put the ball on the defenders head and let him rip

Yep, I’m on that one as well.
I think that will be a body confidence issue. He did crunch someone in his first game I think. Can’t remember who

 

[B&GBlood]

He offered us a lot more in the forward line in this game than we'd had previously. Got a bit of anger in him with the delivery which is fine in my book.

Also copped one of the worst push in the back non-decisions I've seen in recent years on the wing later in the game.

Not free though

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Giving him a 3 year deal is an absolute horror show, we'll be lucky to get 20 games out of him.

 

[burner1]

Giving him a 3 year deal is an absolute horror show, we'll be lucky to get 20 games out of him.

Agreed. Can’t see how we thought 3 years was smart given his history. And I think it’s three years on decent money as well. With list sizes shrinking he’s a list liability. Seems like a nice bloke but evidence so far this year is We got it wrong. And given state of our list do we want to be investing games in him Over next two years?

 

[Spursfan]

Agreed. Can’t see how we thought 3 years was smart given his history. And I think it’s three years on decent money as well. With list sizes shrinking he’s a list liability. Seems like a nice bloke but evidence so far this year is We got it wrong. And given state of our list do we want to be investing games in him Over next two years?

Probably won't be a problem given his injury run.

 

[Zack]

Agreed. Can’t see how we thought 3 years was smart given his history. And I think it’s three years on decent money as well. With list sizes shrinking he’s a list liability. Seems like a nice bloke but evidence so far this year is We got it wrong. And given state of our list do we want to be investing games in him Over next two years?

I'm not as give up on him as you two. I don't think we overpaid from memory wasn't it about 360k x 3 years and with our list we'd probably need that amount just to make the minimum salary cap and not be fined by the afl.

While I agree he can still be a bust, this is a terrible year, for players returning from injuries, no time to actually get a real training base (remember all the rules stopping full training early on players split in small groups), no actual real reserve games to help build fitness get your body ready for the rigors of footy, you basically have to thro guys in to the seniors and then no time between games to recover.

I'd put him away this year and hope with a more natural season next year we can get him right, the good thing is he has played a few games and hasn't done a career ending injury, so as disappointing in some ways this year was, he will be in a far better position coming into next season but as I've said, agree it may not happen.

Putting him away will also give Lewis a block of four games to show something like he did late last year, rather than the nothing he has showed us this year. Him not playing has probably been one of the disappointments of the season, moreso than any of our other tall forwards, he's obviously not doing something right to be picked, so packing up Patton and letting out Lewis might help give us some hope for both of them next year.

 

[OnTheRocks]

He’s a 3 year project

Can’t see how we thought 3 years was smart given his history.

Ummmmm ok

 

[Billyc]

Year 1 has been a 0/10, let’s be honest. He needs to drop a lot of weight over the off season to have a proper crack at it. Get him on the Tom Hawkins training regime

 

[Noel Gallagher]

Giving him a 3 year deal is an absolute horror show, we'll be lucky to get 20 games out of him.

3 ?? I thought we signed him on a 2 year deal? So Patton and Ceglar got signed last year on 6 years combined - FMD

 

[HAWKSBESTEVA]

Let’s be honest none of our recruits ever Pan out good in there first year apart from Tom Mitchell. Omeara Wingard Burgoyne Had a fair share of injury issues in their first couple of seasons. Big off season for patton hopefully.

 

[CHUBBSS]

His too dam heavy, it's pretty simple, drop weight or he should not be playing

*Edit, I don't see this happening under Russel...

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

Hi too dam heavy, it's pretty simple, drop weight or he should not be playing

I am not sure this is the problem. I think its more to do with the fact that he is patched up (and his mind is probably confirming that) and appears to have little core strength. If he did, his size would be an advantage. I think its lazy saying he is too big. It the reason we wanted him.

 

[StillAtLarge]

Agree with others that Patton looks far too heavy for someone with bad knees. I can't see it working out for us, his body language has been apalling in the limited games that he's actually played.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

3 ?? I thought we signed him on a 2 year deal? So Patton and Ceglar got signed last year on 6 years combined - FMD

Yeah mate, sadly we have both lumbering spuds contracted until the end of 2022.

 

[CHUBBSS]

I am not sure this is the problem. I think its more to do with the fact that he is patched up (and his mind is probably confirming that) and appears to have little core strength. If he did, his size would be an advantage. I think its lazy saying he is too big. It the reason we wanted him.

Agree on core strength but you can't have both negatives, if he has a weak core and he is carrying a lot of mass injuries will just come because this sport is super taxing. Drop weight and build that base back up... (He lacks no ability to put on size)

My concern is less in the condition of a player returning to game time and needing match fitness and more in the club allowing him to play when his size and fitness level in an elite sport is creating an outcome of soft tissue injuries, surely this is mismanagement?

 

[hamohawk1]

It's a weird world when Tye Vickery offered more than Patton to date.