Player Watch Welcome to Hawthorn - Michael Hartley

[VandoHawk]

One or two Premierships should get him out of the Essendon mindset. I think winning a final would do it too.

 

[marklar]

Just his/her username etc I'd say?

There's enough info to figure it out though, Tweets are public

 

[Hawk Dork]

Really good article, love the honesty and as the article says, there a lot of stories like this in the AFL. I reckon I’d be putting my family ahead of the bombers too

Money talks: He says he loves Essendon, so why is Hartley a Hawk?...Test

For every Tim Kelly and Bradley Hill mega-deal, there are more stories like new Hawk Michael Hartley's

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Interesting how the AFl runs this story about someone coming to the Hawks for money yet makes a big deal about others staying for the jumper when they know its not true

 

[BrunoV]

Interesting how the AFl runs this story about someone coming to the Hawks for money yet makes a big deal about others staying for the jumper when they know its not true

I really don't think that's the point of the article.

It's about the decisions the players "off Broadway" have to make because their opportunities are limited and their careers are far from straightforward.

The "money" is a red herring. Almost every time a player changes club he's getting paid more money. You think any free agent has changed clubs for less?

 

[Hawk Dork]

I really don't think that's the point of the article.

It's about the decisions the players "off Broadway" have to make because their opportunities are limited and their careers are far from straightforward.

The "money" is a red herring. Almost every time a player changes club he's getting paid more money. You think any free agent has changed clubs for less?

and theres players who would have changed clubs if the AFL hadnt tipped in more money and then run articles about loyalty being the reason on their websites

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

It seems Hartley is a replacement as the depth that Kaiden Brand provided. Will be interesting to see how they both go next year given they are both similar sizes.

 

[A Diakos]

"I love Essendon".......you are at the wrong club muppet

 

[Judd2Sewell]

"I love Essendon".......you are at the wrong club muppet

What did you expect him to say?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

This really does free Sicily and Scrimshaw up, great cover for Frawley and means we don't have to rush Kosi's development.


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I would think Hartley is behind Frost.

 

[tige19]

"I love Essendon".......you are at the wrong club muppet

Does he even realise what footy club he’s going to be representing? That made shutter, “I love Essendon”? Jesus, give me a break pal.

 

[tige19]

What did you expect him to say?

Would have loved for him to say “Hawthorn made me a better offer, I saw opportunity to work with Clarko and I’m pumped to pull on the brown and gold”.. he didn’t need to mention his love for that s**t stain, filthy cheating joint.

 

[KermitJagger]

I really don't think that's the point of the article.

It's about the decisions the players "off Broadway" have to make because their opportunities are limited and their careers are far from straightforward.

The "money" is a red herring. Almost every time a player changes club he's getting paid more money. You think any free agent has changed clubs for less?

I agree with you for the bulk of what you're saying, but yes. Tom Lynch quite obviously took a pay cut to leave Gold Coast, and I think Frawley may have taken a small one to come to the Hawks back in 2015.

 

[kazzooka]

I agree with you for the bulk of what you're saying, but yes. Tom Lynch quite obviously took a pay cut to leave Gold Coast, and I think Frawley may have taken a small one to come to the Hawks back in 2015.

Frawley didn't take a pay cut. Frawley had a front ended deal at Melbourne and in his last year wasn't being paid enough to be in their top 10% so he was an UFA instead of a RFA. When Melbourne knew that they would get pick 3 for him they low balled him hard to push him out knowing that they could never get that pick in a trade.

 

[KermitJagger]

Frawley didn't take a pay cut. Frawley had a front ended deal at Melbourne and in his last year wasn't being paid enough to be in their top 10% so he was an UFA instead of a RFA. When Melbourne knew that they would get pick 3 for him they low balled him hard to push him out knowing that they could never get that pick in a trade.

I stand corrected. Bullshit that a player not in the top 10% paid players can net a club that pick in compensation.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I stand corrected. Bullshit that a player not in the top 10% paid players can net a club that pick in compensation.

We offered less than Geelong had though.

 

[Brishawk]

"I love Essendon".......you are at the wrong club muppet

Ever heard of Stockholm syndrome?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Would have loved for him to say “Hawthorn made me a better offer, I saw opportunity to work with Clarko and I’m pumped to pull on the brown and gold”.. he didn’t need to mention his love for that s**t stain, filthy cheating joint.

I think we need to cut him some slack.

People who come out the other side of a drug dependency often have lingering issues.

We should commend him on the steps he has taken so far.

 

[jameses]

Would have loved for him to say “Hawthorn made me a better offer, I saw opportunity to work with Clarko and I’m pumped to pull on the brown and gold”.. he didn’t need to mention his love for that s**t stain, filthy cheating joint.

Man you need a new hobby if this is how fired up you get over a football club.

 

[Sixpence]

Man you need a new hobby if this is how fired up you get over a football club.

Some people say footy is a matter of Life and Death, but that's ridiculous. It's much more than that!

 

[Randy Campbell]

Man you need a new hobby if this is how fired up you get over a football club.

It's Essendon, maybe you should get a new hobby.

 

[tige19]

Man you need a new hobby if this is how fired up you get over a football club.

I hate Essendon, I don't need hobbies, I need the players of the club I support (financially and emotionally) to understand that it's most important stakeholders (the ones that help pay their wages) don't want to hear about their love for that s**t hole. Pretty standard.

 

[tige19]

I think we need to cut him some slack.

People who come out the other side of a drug dependency often have lingering issues.

We should commend him on the steps he has taken so far.

I wouldn't have given my thoughts unless I read someone else's post, in the long run, it means little but it's not a great start is it? "LOVE"... Faceplant stuff

 

[Gralin]

I hate Essendon, I don't need hobbies, I need the players of the club I support (financially and emotionally) to understand that it's most important stakeholders (the ones that help pay their wages) don't want to hear about their love for that s**t hole. Pretty standard.

lol
Yeah how dare he say anything nice about his old club on the way out

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

I get what tige is saying. ATM it's strictly a business transaction with Hartley. He hasn't been here long enough yet to make any other assessment however. Once he gets into the swing of things the bombers will be a distant memory. Ask Chad how he feels about Port now. Would be different to this time last year.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Unbelievable overreaction to a throw away comment about his previous club, the club that gave him his first real chance at making it.