Welcome Welcome to Hawthorn: Pick 18, Josh Weddle - Round 10, Rising Star!

[Strapping Young Lad]

Sam says Blicavs…

 

[naysayer]

Weddle a chance to be delisted after his performance in the GF sprint?

 

[Mitchell Madness]

No effort in the sprint.
Delist!

 

[CHUBBSS]

And 90+ kg and

2022 NAB AFL DRAFT COMBINE (NATIONAL)​

Standing Vertical jump
1.Darcy Jones (Swan Districts) – 75cm
2. James Van Es (GWV Rebels) – 75
3. Jack O'Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers) – 72
=4. Olli Hotton (Sandringham Dragons) – 70
=4. Reuben Ginbey (East Perth) – 70
=4. Elijah Hewett (Swan Districts) – 70
7. Jacob Konstanty (Gippsland Power) – 69
=8. Blake Drury (Oakleigh Chargers) – 68
=8. Tyrell Dewar (Subiaco) – 68
=8. Josh Weddle (Oakleigh Chargers) – 68
=8. Edward Allan (Claremont) – 68

Running vertical jump
1. James Van Es (GWV Rebels) – 98cm
=2. Josh Weddle (Oakleigh Chargers) – 90
=2. Will Verrall (South Adelaide) – 90
4. Jack O'Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers) – 89
=5. Darcy Jones (Swan Districts) – 87
=5. Mattaes Phillipou (Woodvilel West Torrens) – 87
7. Toby McMullin (Sandringham Dragons) – 84
=8. Mitch Szybkowski (Dandenong Stingrays) – 83
=8. Reuben Ginbey (East Perth) – 8314 seconds)
=8. Anthony Munkara (NT/West Adelaide) – 83
=8. Lachie Cowan (Tasmania) – 83

20m sprint
1. Edward Allan (Claremont) – 2.814 seconds
2. Toby McMullin (Sandringham Dragons) -2.880
3. Coby Burgiel (Gippsland Power) – 2.883
4. James Van Es (Greater Western Victoria Rebels) – 2.910
5. Darcy Jones (Swan Districts) – 2.912
6. Olli Hotton (Sandringham Dragons) – 2.924
7. Reuben Ginbey (East Perth) – 2.928
8. Cooper Vickery (Gippsland Power) – 2.928
9. Josh Weddle (Oakleigh Chargers) – 2.937
10. Lloyd Johnston (NT Thunder) – 2.951

2km time trial
=1. Ollie Hollands (Murray Bushrangers) – 5:54 minutes
=1. Jason Gillbee (Bendigo Pioneers) – 5:54
3. Jaxon Binns (Dandenong Stingrays) – 6:00
4. Josh Weddle (Oakleigh Chargers) – 6:03
5. Reuben Ginbey (East Perth) – 6:15
6. Jakob Ryan (Glenelg) – 6:16
7. Steely Green (South Fremantle) – 6:17
8. Will Dowling (North Adelaide) – 6:21
=9. Blake Drury (Oakleigh Chargers) – 6:25
=9. Seth Campbell (Tasmania Devils) – 6:25
=9. Mattaes Phillipou (Woodville West Torrens) – 6:25

James van es with 98cm running jump is ridiculous

 

[barbster]

James van es with 98cm running jump is ridiculous

Standing vertical jump record in the US is 117cm (NFL draft camp)

 

[CHUBBSS]

Standing vertical jump record in the US is 117cm (NFL draft camp)

Very very different athletes, the work they put in at college is ridiculous - and don’t they usually test between 22-25 years old?

 

[barbster]

Very very different athletes, the work they put in at college is ridiculous - and don’t they usually test between 22-25 years old?

Yes, looks like he would have been about 21 at testing. Didn’t realise standing vertical jumps were of great importance for gridiron, thought it may have been more a basketball thing.
Just a small comparison in anycase.

 

[CHUBBSS]

Yes, looks like he would have been about 21 at testing. Didn’t realise standing vertical jumps were of great importance for gridiron, thought it may have been more a basketball thing.
Just a small comparison in anycase.

always annoys me they don't do agility test on grass, but on those indoor gyms, completely different playing surfaces with far more issues

 

[Slainte]

No surprise that Weddle won the "most promising" accolade - but well deserved after a great debut season.

 

[toomanysquibs]

Yes, looks like he would have been about 21 at testing. Didn’t realise standing vertical jumps were of great importance for gridiron, thought it may have been more a basketball thing.
Just a small comparison in anycase.

Almost every player on an NFL field is an athletic freak. Cornersbacks and safeties need to be able to sprint, turn around and jump high off two feet. Ditto for receivers. Some incredibly high leapers in the NFL, they don't get a heap of opportunities to showcase it. Plus, it's dangerous to get too high off the ground to catch a ball in the NFL. Potential for injury is massive given you can be hit on the way down (to complete a catch you have to 'survive the ground'. Basically means guys can throw themselves into you from anywhere to try and knock the ball free from you).

Very very different athletes, the work they put in at college is ridiculous - and don’t they usually test between 22-25 years old?

It's unreal the amount of player support there is in the strength and conditioning programs even at high school level. College is just ridiculous, so many staff you can hardly believe it.

 

[Bugs1977]

How one pick swap helped shape 2023 Trade Period

The two picks moved from the Hawks to the Swans last year proved to be well-travelled during the Trade Period

www.afl.com.au

 

[Yardie]

How one pick swap helped shape 2023 Trade Period

The two picks moved from the Hawks to the Swans last year proved to be well-travelled during the Trade Period

www.afl.com.au

That is pure craziness! Love it!

 

[chopflop]

So what was the final price for weddle?

26, 27 and 47...

For a kid who looks a 200 game stud.

The sleepy mark special, this one.

 

[toomanysquibs]

So what was the final price for weddle?

26, 27 and 47...

For a kid who looks a 200 game stud.

The sleepy mark special, this one.

There's making something from nothing, and then there was nabbing Weddle for those picks. Next level vision from our recruiting team.

 

[mknaven]

Thought we overpaid to trade up on draft night but couldn’t be happier with the Weddle selection now…looks an absolute gun in the making

I thought we paid a lot at the time too - despite having faith he'd be a good player.

AFL.com have actually done a piece on it:

How one pick swap helped shape 2023 Trade Period

The two picks moved from the Hawks to the Swans last year proved to be well-travelled during the Trade Period

www.afl.com.au

The interesting points are that given the Free agency compo and Kangaroos compensation package, that F2 we traded out has since drifted to pick #26 and the F3 we traded out managed to make its way back to us via the Ryan/Gunston trade.

So in hindsight, a trade we'd make again for sure.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

So what was the final price for weddle?

26, 27 and 47...

For a kid who looks a 200 game stud.

The sleepy mark special, this one.

Sleepy Mark was on his phenergan sh*t that day.

Or was he peaking Mark?

Either way, what a deal.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

26 + 27 + 47 equates to pick 7, which is more than fair value for Weddle.

 

[SSSSSS]

26 + 27 + 47 equates to pick 7, which is more than fair value for Weddle.

On performance so far it would be;

1. Sheezel
2. Ashcroft (could swap these two)

3. Weddle/Michalanney (depends if you want someone who is better at rebounding or someone who is more defensively solid)
5. Wardlaw
6. Ginbey
7. Humphrey?

 

[GinniAndTonic]

26 + 27 + 47 equates to pick 7, which is more than fair value for Weddle.

Yeah but points are useless unless it’s for an academy or FS player. At the end of the day just because those 3 picks equal pick 7 doesn’t mean Sydney got the 7th best player in the draft.

 

[Stard Picket]

26 + 27 + 47 equates to pick 7, which is more than fair value for Weddle.

Every club is trading those picks for 7, it's worth way more. If we had pick 7 and traded it for 26, 27 and 47 everyone including me would melt!

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Every club is trading those picks for 7, it's worth way more. If we had pick 7 and traded it for 26, 27 and 47 everyone including me would melt!

No doubt. We traded those picks for pick 18 though to snag a player the club rated top 10/12. It was valued at 7 based on points, but even then the trade seems to have been amazing for us. It was a calculated move that you just love to see.

As you say though no team doing that trade in reverse.

 

[Dont_be_a_Plonka]

26 + 27 + 47 equates to pick 7, which is more than fair value for Weddle.

Yes and no.
Just try getting pick 7 off the handbaggers for two late 20s and 47.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Yes and no.
Just try getting pick 7 off the handbaggers for two late 20s and 47.

Not sure what you're on about here, unless you were trying to inadvertently make my point.

I'm saying if we used pick 7 on Weddle we'd think it was a great selection.

 

[The Chad and I]

If you want points, trade for points.
If you want good players, trade for high draft picks.

We traded "points" for Weddle.
Winning!

 

[spudmaster]

Every club is trading those picks for 7, it's worth way more. If we had pick 7 and traded it for 26, 27 and 47 everyone including me would melt!

Gold Coast would do it just for the F3!

 

[Dont_be_a_Plonka]

Not sure what you're on about here, unless you were trying to inadvertently make my point.

I'm saying if we used pick 7 on Weddle we'd think it was a great selection.

I'm agreeing that Weddle was a steal but disagreeing that we paid the equivalent of pick 7 for him.
In points it's 7 but in reality it's 14 or 15