Player Watch #38 Noah Cumberland

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He is a good kid from the same Club that Eric Hipwood came through (who incidently we bid for but failed a couple of years ago), but my dilemma is that Brisbane passed on him (and Martyn) only to take Jaxon Prior from West Perth, who frankly I would have taken behind both these. So what was it that suggested Cumberland was less choosable than Prior? My only guess is this is less about best available than finding a player for gap in the list - ie Prior should slot into half back nicely, but Cumberland is a deadset hardnut midfielder with a surprising burst of speed and piercing left foot when he wants to use it, even if it is a bit wayward at times. What he might lack in finesse and class, he'll make up for with speed and grunt. Brisbane landing Deven Robertson much earlier probably played a small part in the Lions needing to overlook Cumberland when the Tiger bid came.
 

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Phar Ace said:
He is a good kid from the same Club that Eric Hipwood came through (who incidently we bid for but failed a couple of years ago), but my dilemma is that Brisbane passed on him (and Martyn) only to take Jaxon Prior from West Perth, who frankly I would have taken behind both these. So what was it that suggested Cumberland was less choosable than Prior? My only guess is this is less about best available than finding a player for gap in the list - ie Prior should slot into half back nicely, but Cumberland is a deadset hardnut midfielder with a surprising burst of speed and piercing left foot when he wants to use it, even if it is a bit wayward at times. What he might lack in finesse and class, he'll make up for with speed and grunt. Brisbane landing Deven Robertson much earlier probably played a small part in the Lions needing to overlook Cumberland when the Tiger bid came.
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I did think of that however the lions have plucked some very high end mids , they prob targeted the other kid as a lock down defender to tie down a small tiger forward , needs based selection
 
Cumberlands draft profile courtesy AFL Draft Central

DRAFT ANALYSIS: “Aggressive both with and without the ball, Cumberland is a midfielder/forward with a terrific mix of inside and outside traits.”

BRISBANE Lions Academy product Noah Cumberland showed great improvement this year at both Under-18 and senior level to throw his name into the hat as a potential top 40 pick. Originally a pressure forward, Cumberland has grown to have an impact up the field and excelled for the Allies during the National Carnival – crowned by his 18 disposals and two goals against South Australia. Cumberland’s impact also extends beyond the common stat line, with his defensive pressure, aggression around the ball and fend-offs all things which catch the eye of close watchers. The one-percenters helped Cumberland fit the mould of a role player, but his extended damage with ball in hand made him much more than that as the year progressed. His five-game experience against mature bodies in the Lions’ premiership-winning NEAFL side also bodes well, with Cumberland finding the goals in three of those outings. While the Lions will be happy to have produced another promising academy member, they may find themselves having to pay up in points come draft night.

STRENGTHS:
Agility
Speed
Footy smarts
Tackling/Aggression
Inside/outside mix

IMPROVEMENTS:
Accumulation
Kicking consistency

Cumberland’s National Draft Combine performance has propelled his value once again, finishing fifth in the 20m sprint (2.931 seconds) and eighth in the agility test (8.208 seconds). His speed shows on-field too as he breaks the lines on the outside and takes on his opponents at will. The agility aspect is more obvious in-close as Cumberland combines his power with being fleet of foot to bustle through congestion. Together, these elements make up much of the Maroochydore junior’s aggressive style of play, which is evident both with and without the ball. His willingness to take the game on and use his penetrating kick going forward is one aspect, while his bullocking style around the stoppages going both ways is the other. Cumberland’s average of almost five tackles per national carnival game is right up there, as is his ability to score in almost every outing and it gives him that desirable mix of inside and outside play.

While his effort and rate of improvement cannot be denied, there are still areas of improvement for such raw players, and especially ones who have spent time on the sidelines due to injury. Cumberland’s penetrating kick is definitely an asset – more than 50 per cent of his effective kicks are long – but it is those short, 45-degree kicks and overall lowering of the eyes that will make Cumberland a more complete forward mover. He is quite kick-happy and often does so on the end of bursting runs, so can become really damaging with some sharpening up, finishing the Academy Series with a 52.5 per cent kicking efficiency. The other area of improvement is building that consistency and finding the ball more often though, with Cumberland breaking the 10-disposal mark at NEAFL level just once – to his credit, in the Grand Final – and he has the potential to do so, as seen in his 26-disposal effort against Dandenong in the NAB League. He may well enter the elite level as a pressure forward, but has the scope to become an effective inside midfielder with some work.


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Cumberlands draft profile courtesy AFL Draft Central

DRAFT ANALYSIS: “Aggressive both with and without the ball, Cumberland is a midfielder/forward with a terrific mix of inside and outside traits.”

BRISBANE Lions Academy product Noah Cumberland showed great improvement this year at both Under-18 and senior level to throw his name into the hat as a potential top 40 pick. Originally a pressure forward, Cumberland has grown to have an impact up the field and excelled for the Allies during the National Carnival – crowned by his 18 disposals and two goals against South Australia. Cumberland’s impact also extends beyond the common stat line, with his defensive pressure, aggression around the ball and fend-offs all things which catch the eye of close watchers. The one-percenters helped Cumberland fit the mould of a role player, but his extended damage with ball in hand made him much more than that as the year progressed. His five-game experience against mature bodies in the Lions’ premiership-winning NEAFL side also bodes well, with Cumberland finding the goals in three of those outings. While the Lions will be happy to have produced another promising academy member, they may find themselves having to pay up in points come draft night.

STRENGTHS:
Agility
Speed
Footy smarts
Tackling/Aggression
Inside/outside mix

IMPROVEMENTS:
Accumulation
Kicking consistency

Cumberland’s National Draft Combine performance has propelled his value once again, finishing fifth in the 20m sprint (2.931 seconds) and eighth in the agility test (8.208 seconds). His speed shows on-field too as he breaks the lines on the outside and takes on his opponents at will. The agility aspect is more obvious in-close as Cumberland combines his power with being fleet of foot to bustle through congestion. Together, these elements make up much of the Maroochydore junior’s aggressive style of play, which is evident both with and without the ball. His willingness to take the game on and use his penetrating kick going forward is one aspect, while his bullocking style around the stoppages going both ways is the other. Cumberland’s average of almost five tackles per national carnival game is right up there, as is his ability to score in almost every outing and it gives him that desirable mix of inside and outside play.

While his effort and rate of improvement cannot be denied, there are still areas of improvement for such raw players, and especially ones who have spent time on the sidelines due to injury. Cumberland’s penetrating kick is definitely an asset – more than 50 per cent of his effective kicks are long – but it is those short, 45-degree kicks and overall lowering of the eyes that will make Cumberland a more complete forward mover. He is quite kick-happy and often does so on the end of bursting runs, so can become really damaging with some sharpening up, finishing the Academy Series with a 52.5 per cent kicking efficiency. The other area of improvement is building that consistency and finding the ball more often though, with Cumberland breaking the 10-disposal mark at NEAFL level just once – to his credit, in the Grand Final – and he has the potential to do so, as seen in his 26-disposal effort against Dandenong in the NAB League. He may well enter the elite level as a pressure forward, but has the scope to become an effective inside midfielder with some work.


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Richmond traits everywhere. Pressure forward, inside mid, running machine, attacks the game.

Sounds like we have once again backed in our development to turn potential into reality. If he plays his natural game and just sharpens it up he'll fit into Richmond like a foot into a slipper
 

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Phar Ace said:
Brisbane landing Deven Robertson much earlier probably played a small part in the Lions needing to overlook Cumberland when the Tiger bid came.
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Cumberland also sounds like he has similar attributes to Rayner. Brisbane might have felt that was enough.
 
_RT_ said:
Cumberlands draft profile courtesy AFL Draft Central

DRAFT ANALYSIS: “Aggressive both with and without the ball, Cumberland is a midfielder/forward with a terrific mix of inside and outside traits.”

BRISBANE Lions Academy product Noah Cumberland showed great improvement this year at both Under-18 and senior level to throw his name into the hat as a potential top 40 pick. Originally a pressure forward, Cumberland has grown to have an impact up the field and excelled for the Allies during the National Carnival – crowned by his 18 disposals and two goals against South Australia. Cumberland’s impact also extends beyond the common stat line, with his defensive pressure, aggression around the ball and fend-offs all things which catch the eye of close watchers. The one-percenters helped Cumberland fit the mould of a role player, but his extended damage with ball in hand made him much more than that as the year progressed. His five-game experience against mature bodies in the Lions’ premiership-winning NEAFL side also bodes well, with Cumberland finding the goals in three of those outings. While the Lions will be happy to have produced another promising academy member, they may find themselves having to pay up in points come draft night.

STRENGTHS:
Agility
Speed
Footy smarts
Tackling/Aggression
Inside/outside mix

IMPROVEMENTS:
Accumulation
Kicking consistency

Cumberland’s National Draft Combine performance has propelled his value once again, finishing fifth in the 20m sprint (2.931 seconds) and eighth in the agility test (8.208 seconds). His speed shows on-field too as he breaks the lines on the outside and takes on his opponents at will. The agility aspect is more obvious in-close as Cumberland combines his power with being fleet of foot to bustle through congestion. Together, these elements make up much of the Maroochydore junior’s aggressive style of play, which is evident both with and without the ball. His willingness to take the game on and use his penetrating kick going forward is one aspect, while his bullocking style around the stoppages going both ways is the other. Cumberland’s average of almost five tackles per national carnival game is right up there, as is his ability to score in almost every outing and it gives him that desirable mix of inside and outside play.

While his effort and rate of improvement cannot be denied, there are still areas of improvement for such raw players, and especially ones who have spent time on the sidelines due to injury. Cumberland’s penetrating kick is definitely an asset – more than 50 per cent of his effective kicks are long – but it is those short, 45-degree kicks and overall lowering of the eyes that will make Cumberland a more complete forward mover. He is quite kick-happy and often does so on the end of bursting runs, so can become really damaging with some sharpening up, finishing the Academy Series with a 52.5 per cent kicking efficiency. The other area of improvement is building that consistency and finding the ball more often though, with Cumberland breaking the 10-disposal mark at NEAFL level just once – to his credit, in the Grand Final – and he has the potential to do so, as seen in his 26-disposal effort against Dandenong in the NAB League. He may well enter the elite level as a pressure forward, but has the scope to become an effective inside midfielder with some work.


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sounds incredible based off that...
 
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Noah Cumberland plays like comparisons from Champion Data

Note - they aren't saying they'll be the same quality, just the type of player they are similar to in style
 
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