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Not sure he’s coming back. His Dad’s in hospital and close to the end. Plus he’s spending his time at the cas and sleeping all day.


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He doesn’t seem that committed to be honest.


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These come true yet?
 

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Dad seems okay, but his friends were very evasive when asked. Girlfriend’s hoping to move to Melbourne and take a gap year. Moving into a house with other first year players.

Still not convinced he’s learnt his lesson
long term, short term anyone can behave with half a footy club watching you.


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Couldn't agree more. You get the two benefits of resting older players who will then be fresher later in the season when it matters, and also getting crucial games into potential AFL stalwarts. It may come at the cost of a few matches but if it was the difference between 15 wins and 17 wins so be it.
lol what ? we need 17 wins not 15, 15 wins could see us in 5th like in 2015. we are trying to win a flag remember?
 
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Dad seems okay, but his friends were very evasive when asked. Girlfriend’s hoping to move to Melbourne and take a gap year. Moving into a house with other first year players.

Still not convinced he’s learnt his lesson
long term, short term anyone can behave with half a footy club watching you.


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Hmmm.

Let's just back the boy in shall we????
 

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lol what ? we need 17 wins not 15, 15 wins could see us in 5th like in 2015. we are trying to win a flag remember?
You must have been in solitary confinement with no privileges for a few years Shazza. ;)

In 2015 with no weekend off leading into the finals Hawthorn played four finals and won the flag.

In 2016 the weekend off before finals was introduced and Bulldogs promptly came from 7th winning four finals to take the flag.

In 2017 the two grand finalists played only three finals each.

In 2018 Eagles won the flag playing just three finals but Feralwood played four finals and were beaten only by a single score in the GF.

Hawks in '15 had 16 wins but admittedly a massive percentage of 158.

Bulldogs in '16 had 15 wins in the regular season and had a percentage of 115. :oops:

Tigers in '17 had 15 wins and a percentage of 118.

Pies in '18 had 15 wins and a percentage of 120.

Eagles in '18 16 wins and percentage 121.

During the last four seasons:

- No premier had more than 16 wins, 2 had 15. :eek:

- The only team finishing top 2 to win the flag was the Eagles in '18 and they won by a kick.

- No team finishing on top of the ladder has won the flag.

- Two teams have made the GF after losing an interstate final, one(Hawks) won the flag, the other(unmentionable club) fell one score short.

There is nothing in recent years to suggest if you hit the finals in top form you cannot win from anywhere in the 8 if you are good enough and even less to suggest that drawing an interstate final first up is a barrier to making the GF or even winning it.

My point stands, any strategy that gets you to the finals at your best is worth more than a home final or double chance in terms of winning a flag. So a policy of rotating players so as to give young players games and rest more established players is not to be laughed off imo, though if it caused you to miss the finals altogether that wouldn't be too clever. :drunk:
 

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You must have been in solitary confinement with no privileges for a few years Shazza. ;)

In 2015 with no weekend off leading into the finals Hawthorn played four finals and won the flag.

In 2016 the weekend off before finals was introduced and Bulldogs promptly came from 7th winning four finals to take the flag.

In 2017 the two grand finalists played only three finals each.

In 2018 Eagles won the flag playing just three finals but Feralwood played four finals and were beaten only by a single score in the GF.

Hawks in '15 had 16 wins but admittedly a massive percentage of 158.

Bulldogs in '16 had 15 wins in the regular season and had a percentage of 115. :oops:

Tigers in '17 had 15 wins and a percentage of 118.

Pies in '18 had 15 wins and a percentage of 120.

Eagles in '18 16 wins and percentage 121.

During the last four seasons:

- No premier had more than 16 wins, 2 had 15. :eek:

- The only team finishing top 2 to win the flag was the Eagles in '18 and they won by a kick.

- No team finishing on top of the ladder has won the flag.

- Two teams have made the GF after losing an interstate final, one(Hawks) won the flag, the other(unmentionable club) fell one score short.

There is nothing in recent years to suggest if you hit the finals in top form you cannot win from anywhere in the 8 if you are good enough and even less to suggest that drawing an interstate final first up is a barrier to making the GF or even winning it.

My point stands, any strategy that gets you to the finals at your best is worth more than a home final or double chance in terms of winning a flag. So a policy of rotating players so as to give young players games and rest more established players is not to be laughed off imo, though if it caused you to miss the finals altogether that wouldn't be too clever. :drunk:
so you're saying someone should poke riewoldt in the eye and we should play towner for a few weeks in the lead up to the finals
 

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You must have been in solitary confinement with no privileges for a few years Shazza. ;)

In 2015 with no weekend off leading into the finals Hawthorn played four finals and won the flag.

In 2016 the weekend off before finals was introduced and Bulldogs promptly came from 7th winning four finals to take the flag.

In 2017 the two grand finalists played only three finals each.

In 2018 Eagles won the flag playing just three finals but Feralwood played four finals and were beaten only by a single score in the GF.

Hawks in '15 had 16 wins but admittedly a massive percentage of 158.

Bulldogs in '16 had 15 wins in the regular season and had a percentage of 115. :oops:

Tigers in '17 had 15 wins and a percentage of 118.

Pies in '18 had 15 wins and a percentage of 120.

Eagles in '18 16 wins and percentage 121.

During the last four seasons:

- No premier had more than 16 wins, 2 had 15. :eek:

- The only team finishing top 2 to win the flag was the Eagles in '18 and they won by a kick.

- No team finishing on top of the ladder has won the flag.

- Two teams have made the GF after losing an interstate final, one(Hawks) won the flag, the other(unmentionable club) fell one score short.

There is nothing in recent years to suggest if you hit the finals in top form you cannot win from anywhere in the 8 if you are good enough and even less to suggest that drawing an interstate final first up is a barrier to making the GF or even winning it.

My point stands, any strategy that gets you to the finals at your best is worth more than a home final or double chance in terms of winning a flag. So a policy of rotating players so as to give young players games and rest more established players is not to be laughed off imo, though if it caused you to miss the finals altogether that wouldn't be too clever. :drunk:
Very small window your looking at.
SINCE 1994 the inception of the final 8 only two teams have made it to a g/f from outside the top 4 Adelaide and the dogs.

Since 94

1st 8 times
2nd 9 times
3rd 5 times
4th 1 adelaide
5th 1 adelaide having been belted in their first final
7th 1 wb having a weeks break and getting players back and rested.

Since the final 8 came into play you really want to finish top 3 anything else has been shown to be a rarity.
 
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Very small window your looking at.
SINCE 1994 the inception of the final 8 only two teams have made it to a g/f from outside the top 4 Adelaide and the dogs.

Since 94

1st 8 times
2nd 9 times
3rd 5 times
4th 1 adelaide
5th 1 adelaide having been belted in their first final
7th 1 wb having a weeks break and getting players back and rested.

Since the final 8 came into play you really want to finish top 3 anything else has been shown to be a rarity.
I suppose the question is then would you rather finish first on 17-18 wins entering the finals fully exposed with a load of key players having played 20+ matches during the season....or say 4th or 5th on 15 wins having rotated more and taking a fresher and less exposed team into the finals?

I would take the latter based in the current finals schedule with the week break and the trends of the most recent(and therefore most relevant) years. As you say though, the sample is small.
 
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Very small window your looking at.
SINCE 1994 the inception of the final 8 only two teams have made it to a g/f from outside the top 4 Adelaide and the dogs.

Since 94

1st 8 times
2nd 9 times
3rd 5 times
4th 1 adelaide
5th 1 adelaide having been belted in their first final
7th 1 wb having a weeks break and getting players back and rested.

Since the final 8 came into play you really want to finish top 3 anything else has been shown to be a rarity.
We have to finish first and make it 9 times ....
 

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I suppose the question is then would you rather finish first on 17-18 wins entering the finals fully exposed with a load of key players having played 20+ matches during the season....or say 4th or 5th on 15 wins having rotated more and taking a fresher and less exposed team into the finals?

I would take the latter based in the current finals schedule with the week break and the trends of the most recent(and therefore most relevant) years. As you say though, the sample is small.
The answer would be give me a top 4 finish every day of the week.. I think the simple answer to why the top 2 teams have won it so many times is because they were the best two teams and the number of premierships merely reflect that.

Some times the best team may not finish top 2 they may have had a heap of injuries early in the yr but got players back in time for a high finish there are lots of variables that can happen but it seems with all things being equal finish top two and you give yourself the best chance of winning the flag.
 
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