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You will never see me post in a gameday thread but boy do I get a laugh out of it once the game is over. I've made a rule not to judge anything that anyone says during the heat of the game.BoNt iS sO oVeRraTeD
Have to agree, the multi dimensional skill set of Bont far out weighs Pendlebury
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I've noticed a lot of people think Neale is the favourite for the Brownlow this year. Has he really been that good? I haven't watched many Brisbane games this year. He's obviously a good player but is he the standout BoG as often as our beloved Bont?
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Neale has had a very good year and won't have many taking votes from him. I can fully understand him being one of the top fancies.
Tim Kelly and Cripps would be up there also
Neale's first 6 games were fire, his probably on 10-12 votes just from those opening rounds. Then had a quiet run of games and has picked up again the last 3 weeks.
Honestly I think this is the most open Brownlow medal year I can remember, 2018 everyone knew Mitchell was going to win, Dusty was an unbackable lock in 2017, danger the same in 2016 and I think most astute punters had Fyfe in 2015.
Tim Kelly has had lots of exceptional games and his flashy (so would be noticed by the umps), Geelong have also won so many games which means there will be heaps of votes (the whole players stealing votes off each other is a myth that was dispelled with Cousins and Judd years ago). His disadvantage will be his a second year player, and umpires tend to go for big name players when it's tight. Obviously there is heaps of hype around him now, but there wasn't in the first 5-6 rounds.
You even have someone like Travis Boak flying under the radar, he polls exceptionally well unlike his team mate Robbie Gray. Boak polled 21 votes in 2014 and his 2019 has been his best season - and by a considerable margin. Only probably going to need mid 20's to win this year as well IMO (25-28). Unlike Fyfe, Danger and Dustys big numbers in 2015, 2016 & 2017 (31, 35 and 36)
Tim Kelly, Patrick Cripps, Nat Fyfe (polls like Judd used to), Lachie Neale, Bont and Boak are all chances to win. Few others may come into contention if they hit a purple patch like Coniglio. Wouldn't even be surprised if Brody Grundy won the midfielders award and caused a huge upset.
On odds though, I like Bont the best. Paying $10-$15 and he has an easy run of games left, 5 possible wins from 7 games. Probably on 15-16 votes right now and Polls exceptionally well, polled 20 votes in 2016 and 19 votes in 2017. Statistically, his 2019 is ahead and his gone from averaging 23-24 possies a game in those 2 years up to 27 possies a game. All of those players above would be on around 14-20 votes. Anyone's medal ATM IMO. Ignoring odds, and picking the player I think will win from an extremely open field and being objective/unbiased I'd choose Neale atm, followed by Bont, Kelly and Cripps. Anyone's medal though and I'd have Bont around $6 not $11-$13 like most places. Tim Kelly is around $3-$4 and Neale is around $4-$5 as a comparasion.
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If his kicking boots were on towards goal he would be a 2 buck chance. His form has been unbelievable and rocking up to the footy every week to watch this guy play is worth the membership fee. A truly special player who will be even better next year
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Bont definitely worth a nibble each way. I got on preseason at $34 as well which is looking Ok
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Can you add contested possessions to that list? 16 last week apparently.
Yet some on the gameday thread cracked the sads about a couple of shanked kicks.
Grant, West and Johnson were unfairly never quite ranked equally with their peers but Bont is beginning to build a compelling case as best of the generation, especially if he fixes this goalkicking dilemma. Some of the media have the type of man crush on him the other three never received in comparison to their equals.
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My guesses for bonts brownlow votes so far:
Round 1 v Sydney: 3
Round 3 v GC: 3
Round 4 v Pies: 2
Round 7 v Tigs: 2
Round 13 v Blues: 1
Round 14 v Pies: 1
Round 15 v Port: 3
Round 16 v Cats: 3
This puts him on 18 which would defs be in the top 5 with 7 rounds to go. If he continues his current form he could win it. How good would that be!
Round 1 v Sydney: 3
Round 3 v GC: 3
Round 4 v Pies: 2
Round 7 v Tigs: 2
Round 13 v Blues: 1
Round 14 v Pies: 1
Round 15 v Port: 3
Round 16 v Cats: 3
This puts him on 18 which would defs be in the top 5 with 7 rounds to go. If he continues his current form he could win it. How good would that be!
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If he shortens his run up his set shot goal kicking would be fixed.... Easily done
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Brownlow predictor currently has him on 14, although there are some absolutely terrible predictions in there with players polling despite arguably not even being top 10 on field on the day. They have:
Round 1 v Sydney: 2
Round 3 v GC: 2
Round 4 v Pies: 1
Round 7 v Tigs: 3
Round 13 v Blues: 1
Round 15 v Port: 3
Round 16 v Cats: 2
So pretty similar to yours, but not exactly the same. The Brownlow predictor seems to massively overrate goals, leading to forwards receiving more votes than they should (giving Schache 3 votes for Round 2 after his 4 goal performance - he was good, but far from BOG). Interesting, though, that they have Dunkley sitting on 10 votes, so not far behind Bont. That could hurt his chances if it ends up like that, since Macrae has also been BOG a couple times this year
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He'll get 3 v Cats because of the fourth quarter
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I'd be very surprised if Naughty doesn't get the 3 votes against the Tigers
Lot of forwards over the years have done far more for far less in the Brownlow.
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Deservedly so. The predictor is often so far off the mark, it brings every prediction into doubt. I put no stock into their predictions to be honest, and wouldn't be surprised if Kelly doesn't win it despite appearing to be the clear favourite
Naughton was better in that game 100%. But like mcgleereturns said, forwards poll worse than midfielders. He also isn't a big name to umpires. I've heard from a very reliable source that in games were there are 2 standouts, the umpires tend to favour the bigger name player (look at how many votes Dusty, Danger and Fyfe polled over that 3 year period, they all got 30+).
FWIW I have Bont somewhere between 14-19.
Round 1 - 3 votes
Round 3 - 2 votes
Round 4 - 2 votes
Round 7 - 3 votes
Round 15 - 3 votes
Round 16 - 3 votes
That puts him at 16 - which is my best guess.
May only get 2 votes in the round 7 with Naughty going huge. Also against Port Adelaide he went huge in quarter 1, then was much quiter over the next 3 quarters, so may only poll 2 there as well (umpires will have the second half fresher in their minds - like the AA team, second half of the year is often rewarded and the first half is more forgotten). Conversely, has a chance polling a vote in rounds 8, 13 and 14. Puts him at a 14-19 vote range. Probably needs about 10 more votes to be a real chance (we should get 4-5 wins with 7 games left).
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Superstar. As many Brownlow medallists and multiple All Australians' we've had, I can't remember the last time we had a top 3 player in the comp in our side. Might have to go back to the Ted WHitten days.
Chris Grant was easily top 3 for a couple if years. David Parkin had him at 1 for a period, even ahead of Carey.
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Grant was definitely a top 3 player from 1996-99 I would say.
Hawkins and Dempsey would also have been close at their peaks
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Aa mentioned above, Chris Grant was a phenomenal footballer.
