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Table tennis and handball… FMD. Does he even realise that someone still has to lose?

How about building a proper fitness base so we don’t fade out in second halves and some tactile nous to halt momentum Andrew?

Recruiting blokes that can actually kick and maintain possession instead of turning it over would also go a long way.
Perhaps he is a coach not an idiot
 
Some big ticks for mine on Minis first season.

+ Playing all but Livingstone (no where near ready), Sheed (ACL), and Yeo (perma-injured). He should now be fully aware of what he has and hasn't got on the list. I was hoping he would do a thorough exploration of the list and he did this.

+ Moving players around to see what flexibility he has on the list. Hough to Mid is one of the big levers he tried. Kelly to HF was another.

+ Playing the kids in the roles they were drafted for. Gross as a mid (until we learned he doesn't have the tank for it so moved him to HF). Davis as a Mid, Shanahan as a Key Forward.

+ Changing the Gameplan to reflect more what is being played by other teams with quicker ball movement, taking more risks with handball chains.

He'll have learned a lot not only about the squad but also about the Head Coach job. Hopefully he guts the assistants and brings in some fresh ideas people there as well.

Overall, while the wins aren't there and we had some frustrating losses I'm excited to see another pre-season with further growth from the kids, Hopefully get a fit Yeo, Harley and Waterman back in the side, and bring in some more exciting talent from the draft.
 
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Here you go mate.

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“But, but, Richmond…”
From the previous data Richmond are only .4 of year older than us. Our list is just very inexperienced and lacks in 22-28 bracket. I think that's just bad list management. I dare say our 2010 wooden spoon year would have had a list profile closer to Richmond's in this chart and that didn't turn out to bad for our rebuild. I'd say our current list profile is more reflective of Melbourne 2008-2011 and that didn't work out so well.

This data explains why we had such a poor year but I don't think it's any evidence our rebuild is on par with Richmonds. We won't know till it plays out but I'd rather rebuild with a more balanced list profile and snag more wins along the way rather than expose a lot of young players to absolute beltings. Hope I'm wrong and this extended period of losses aren't scarring but I think this data suggests we'd have to buck the trend rather than evidencing we are on track.
 
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Rating Archer over Shanahands as a key forward to the extent that our greatest key forward since Josh Kennedy was playing in defence in the WAFL is a black mark against his record only a premiership will erase.

I'm trying to look on the positive about how good Archer must have looked pre season.

It certainly looks like an odd call with how the season turned for both.
 
I'm trying to look on the positive about how good Archer must have looked pre season.

It certainly looks like an odd call with how the season turned for both.
TBF I think the long term plan with archer is for him to ruck, in the meantime he needed to play KPF whilst being able to chop out in the ruck.
 
Also necessity. Clearly no spot in the forward line for the next 4 years. Ruck rules will suit his athletic capacity too.
Can see him being Gawn from Wish tbh. Follows up at ground level, clean off the deck, good disposal, very good agility. Maybe he plays ruck for half a season at WAFL level next year? Just need him to bulk up.

Do it McQualter
 
Doing a bit of poindexter work. This seems as good a thread as any.

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Youngest team in footy, last year we were the seventh youngest:
  • Average age of our selected teams this year was 24 years and seven months.
  • Second youngest: 24yr 10mth (Essendon).
  • AFL average: 25yr 10 mth.
  • Oldest: 28yr 8mth (Collingwood).
Least experienced team in footy, last year we had the eighth fewest games played.
  • West Coast: 76.6 games
  • Second fewest games (pending all R24 games): 84.4 games (Richmond)
  • AFL average: 104.4 games
  • Most: 156.4 games (Collingwood)
The average margin was 10 points worse, but with four fewer wins that makes sense.

Excluding the wins and only looking at how we fared in losses, we're a goal worse this year but with a better percentage in losses (e.g. higher scores for us too). Precious little to read in here.

Interestingly, while you'd assume your team would get older and more experienced throughout the year as your list ages and gains +23 games each week, we've gone the opposite in both, in stark contrast to 2024. Trending younger and less experienced as the season went on.

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I maintain that it's just a matter of patience, and that season long we have taken some big steps forward compared to the rudderless end to last season. Wins and losses will catch up, the process is right.

McQualter's biggest issue is not one of his own making - we're all just sick of this because we've been here longer than he has, but laying the foundations with a substantially younger side is a tick to me.
So basically play the kids, like everyone wanted, and blame Mini for losing?
 

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Table tennis and handball… FMD. Does he even realise that someone still has to lose?

How about building a proper fitness base so we don’t fade out in second halves and some tactile nous to halt momentum Andrew?

Recruiting blokes that can actually kick and maintain possession instead of turning it over would also go a long way.
I didn't know doing table tennis and handball prevented the team from training their fitness and the recruitment staff from recruiting blokes that can kick but maybe that's just me? :think:
 
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I maintain that it's just a matter of patience, and that season long we have taken some big steps forward compared to the rudderless end to last season. Wins and losses will catch up, the process is right.

McQualter's biggest issue is not one of his own making - we're all just sick of this because we've been here longer than he has, but laying the foundations with a substantially younger side is a tick to me.
Those trend lines don’t look 100% right to me but good poindexter work nonetheless
 
No 100 point losses, this happened quite a few times under Simpson🤮, when he had a much more experienced line up, including a 171 point loss to Sydney
I’m very sure that we have bottomed out and will start to improve next year.
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I didn't know doing table tennis and handball prevented the team from training their fitness and the recruitment staff from recruiting blokes that can kick but maybe that's just me? :think:
After a season like that it’s odd to mention that rather than the things that will actually make a difference.
 
After a season like that it’s odd to mention that rather than the things that will actually make a difference.
Well it's in direct response to a question about how to make a team that's lost so much more competitive.

I don't think the answer to that is run around more and recruit blokes who can kick straight.
 

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After a season like that it’s odd to mention that rather than the things that will actually make a difference.
I liked the response a lot. We have too many players that drop in and out of games (just out completely) because the want to compete isn't there. He's not saying it'll fix everything and that would be a stupid way to take his comments. He's saying that by fostering a competitive atmosphere in general it should help them fight through matches when things get hard.

I don't care how they build that into the team. What is important is the identification that we have a bunch of soft players that aren't fighting tooth and nail for a full 4 qtrs.
 
I liked the response a lot. We have too many players that drop in and out of games (just out completely) because the want to compete isn't there. He's not saying it'll fix everything and that would be a stupid way to take his comments. He's saying that by fostering a competitive atmosphere in general it should help them fight through matches when things get hard.

I don't care how they build that into the team. What is important is the identification that we have a bunch of soft players that aren't fighting tooth and nail for a full 4 qtrs.
Yep, we have Reid, Ginbey and Yeo and that's pretty much it.

Oh, Gross and Grego look to have a bit of dog in them also and I like the way Newton goes about it. Hope he's retained.

If the entire team had the competitive nature of those 6, we'd be well on our way.
 
Perhaps he is a coach not an idiot
Mini wasn't responsible for recruiting the squad he has got stuck with. There has been a large clean out of recruiting and list management staff. Gavin Bell has been the General Manager Football during the horror period of the last 3 years and he's still got a job. Another Nisbett appointee.
 
Those trend lines don’t look 100% right to me but good poindexter work nonetheless
I hand drew them to make the point I wanted to make.

Nah I dunno I clicked the toggle to turn on trendlines and that’s what it gave me. Certainly when you type it out week by week this year, we did get startlingly young as the season went on.
 
Last night, our senior players were Cole, Kelly, Baker, Graham, Cripps and Ryan.

Cripps and Kelly are cooked and Ryan's form has been middling. Cole, Graham and Baker are role-players at best.. albeit, I can't fault Baker's effort.

I think it was pretty telling that Reuben Ginbey's injury had such a big impact... he's a 20yo with 62 games under his belt but already one of our most important players. I guess it makes sense though, given that Sandy Brock's played 14 games, and Rhett Bazzo's played 27.

At the other end of the ground, our key forwards were Shanahan, who's in his first year and played only a handful of games, and Bailey Williams who is one of our more experienced players with a grand total of 87 games to his name, but most of them as a ruck. Our small forwards were Newton who is a mid-season draftee playing his first full game, and Noah Long who's still working his way back from a major knee injury... and the aforementioned Cripps and Ryan.

And our midfield? Don't even get me started on the midfield.

Our list is paper thin at best. But take out Yeo, Harley, Duggan, Allan, Waterman, Edwards, etc and it's downright diabolical. And factor in the fact that guys like Hewett, Long, Chesser and Bazzo recovering from injury.

By contrast, the Swans made the GF last year.

Name one coach that could of squeezed a win in those circumstances.

McQualter is completely up against it. The fact that he's remained upbeat throughout the whole experience gives me some hope. Last night was the first time (that I recall) that he used inexperience as an excuse. He's been upfront and honest... the players need to get better.

Every single first-year coach takes time to find their feet. He'll get more confident in the role as he progresses and we can judge from there. There have been some passages of play that look brilliant, so I'm hopeful that with the right personnel, things will get better. But the next draft/trade is going to be crucial.
 
I hand drew them to make the point I wanted to make.
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Nah they look legit - surprised how flat it is for 2024 is all
 

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