Wells or Walker

[Pykie]

Wells has more possies because he plays in the midfield.

I wouldn't have thought that would be such a hard concept to understand

The amount of pressure Walker is under, providing drive out of defense is immense. Is Wells the same? NO. Who do you expect to have more errors: a midfielder, or a running defender constantly under enormous pressure?

Well Wellsy played a fair portion of his season running off the half backline, Wells doesnt get under enormous pressure mainly because of his high pace, and good skills, rarely is he tackled with the ball, Walker doesnt have the same luxury of evasion, i think thats a big factor.

 

[Jeremias]

Hey, a Pick 2 tagging who has never finished top 5 in a rabble team is more vaulable than a kid at Pick 2 who has him covered in everything, even defensive side of the game (More 1%ers, more tackles etc) who has finished top 5 2 times in only 4 years.

Of course Walker is better, he is one of the leadingclanger kings in the comp.

A defender is very different to a tagger. I thought that given your football knowledge, you would have recognised this. I obviously overestimated you...

 

[Jeremias]

Well Wellsy played a fair portion of his season running off the half backline, Wells doesnt get under enormous pressure mainly because of his high pace, and good skills, rarely is he tackled with the ball, Walker doesnt have the same luxury of evasion, i think thats a big factor.

So Walker isn't fast? Please, stop embarrassing yourself

The main reason why Wells had less clangers is because he was playing under less pressure. That is a fact.

 

[CrazyQ]

So Walker isn't fast? Please, stop embarrassing yourself

The main reason why Wells had less clangers is because he was playing under less pressure. That is a fact.

He was tagged nearly every match.

Wells ALWAYS had an opponent.

And he was never under pressure?

Man.

 

[Jeremias]

He was tagged nearly every match.

Wells ALWAYS had an opponent.

And he was never under pressure?

Man.

Yep. Because I said he was neve under pressure.... Good to see you changing my argument to suit your own. Probably because you can't win otherwise.

Walker coming out of the backline is under a hell of a lot more pressure than a midfielder who has some other quality midfielders around him to take much of the pressure off him.

 

[CrazyQ]

Yep. Because I said he was neve under pressure.... Good to see you changing my argument to suit your own. Probably because you can't win otherwise.

Walker coming out of the backline is under a hell of a lot more pressure than a midfielder who has some other quality midfielders around him to take much of the pressure off him.

Well has quality midfielders around him? Name them? I can only name one quality who had an average year. Now whos making stuff up?

Well having a tagger punching him, pyssing him off, tackling him on every occassion and sacrificing his game JUST to put Wells under pressure would be more pressure than a creative HBF. Easily.

Walker, like you said, is a creative HBF who creates attacks into the forward line. Wells has a bloke on his arse every game, but yeah, no pressure at all.

 

[Pykie]

Yep. Because I said he was neve under pressure.... Good to see you changing my argument to suit your own. Probably because you can't win otherwise.

Walker coming out of the backline is under a hell of a lot more pressure than a midfielder who has some other quality midfielders around him to take much of the pressure off him.

What are you talking about other quality midfielders? Grant and Harvey had absolutely terrible years, Rawlings is a tagger, and Simpson was carrying injuries.

So Walker isn't fast? Please, stop embarrassing yourself

The main reason why Wells had less clangers is because he was playing under less pressure. That is a fact.

Walker has pace, but Wells is in the top 5 quickest guys in the competition, thats why he gets time, and Walker wasnt under more pressure, Wells had a direct opponent for every game he played, because he was tagged, Walker mostly played on the 3rd or 4th best forward, and small forwards at that.

 

[CrazyQ]

What are you talking about other quality midfielders? Grant and Harvey had absolutely terrible years, Rawlings is a tagger, and Simpson was carrying injuries.



Walker has pace, but Wells is in the top 5 quickest guys in the competition, thats why he gets time, and Walker wasnt under more pressure, Wells had a direct opponent for every game he played, because he was tagged, Walker mostly played on the 3rd or 4th best forward, and small forwards at that.

No no!

Playing on Ebert and Bode or Scott Harding from Brisbane is harder and there more pressure situations there than getting a Kane Cornes or a Jarred Crouch or a Brodie Holland

 

[bellzy]

If it was possible i would retract this pole. After reading all the arguments for and against, how does Walker even COMPARE to Wells! Stats and all are in favour of Wells, and the only real argument for Walker is that he's improving. Not hard for someone who starts with nothing...

Good Wellsy

 

[blues4flag]

If it was possible i would retract this pole. After reading all the arguments for and against, how does Walker even COMPARE to Wells! Stats and all are in favour of Wells, and the only real argument for Walker is that he's improving. Not hard for someone who starts with nothing...

Good Wellsy

Why make the poll in the first place then?
And for the record, Walker and Wells had pretty similar years, Walker has been constantly improving, Wells has been pretty stagnant.

 

[SIR SAINT HOTDOG]

i went for wells. but i sure think the guy who made this poll (bellzy) is a ****** who cant kick a footy

 

[Pykie]

Why make the poll in the first place then?
And for the record, Walker and Wells had pretty similar years, Walker has been constantly improving, Wells has been pretty stagnant.

But when you compare a player, do you compare 1 year?

If we were comparing Darren Jolly to Spider Everitt, Spider would come up trumps every time, regardless of Jolly having the better year.

 

[BahrBlue25]

Last year I would have been saying Wells, this year Walker for sure.
I was really hurting about Wells not playing in Navy Blue 12months ago but now I find he is very over-rated and can't play consistent footy.

 

[trueblue_91]

Last year I would have been saying Wells, this year Walker for sure.
I was really hurting about Wells not playing in Navy Blue 12months ago but now I find he is very over-rated and can't play consistent footy.

Im still pretty annoyed about it. And remember he did carry a injury into quite a few games

 

[blues4flag]

But when you compare a player, do you compare 1 year?

If we were comparing Darren Jolly to Spider Everitt, Spider would come up trumps every time, regardless of Jolly having the better year.

Thing is, neither has reached their best and are still developing - can't compare to Everitt who is coming to the end. Walker has shown steady improvement, Wells has not, and seeing as both have the majority of their career ahead of them (and the fact that Wells has played an extra season), it's not really fair to compare their pasts. At the moment, they've both had decent years, different positions but pretty similar IMO.

 

[Pykie]

Thing is, neither has reached their best and are still developing - can't compare to Everitt who is coming to the end. Walker has shown steady improvement, Wells has not, and seeing as both have the majority of their career ahead of them (and the fact that Wells has played an extra season), it's not really fair to compare their pasts. At the moment, they've both had decent years, different positions but pretty similar IMO.

erm, tell me again why we cant compare their pasts? Because Wells is a year older?

 

[blues4flag]

erm, tell me again why we cant compare their pasts? Because Wells is a year older?

Because unlike Everitt, Wells and Walker will both continue to improve, we've already seen Peter's best so it's easier to say why. As for the other two, as both have yet to develop fully and reach their best, their form of 2/3 years ago isn't much of an indication of what they can achieve. Wells had a pretty good start to his career but hasn't improved much, whilst Walker has constantly improved since his first season. Also, some players take longer to develop than others, eg. Hodge, Ball. At the end of 2004, most would rather Ball than Hodge, but Hodge was a late developer and now most would want him over Ball.

What I'm trying to say it's not fair to compare people so young and still developing this early in their careers, as just because they are developing at a different rate does not mean that one will be better than the other in a couple years time.

 

[bellzy]

Im still pretty annoyed about it. And remember he did carry a injury into quite a few games

Wow, a Carlton supporter who can admit the truth...

 

[blues4flag]

Wow, a Carlton supporter who can admit the truth...

Or maybe some of us have gotten over it and moved on.

 

[BahrBlue25]

Im still pretty annoyed about it. And remember he did carry a injury into quite a few games

I'm still very annoyed to be honest too

 

[bellzy]

Well, its official.According to BF, Wells over Walker.

 

[parrot]

Well, its official.According to BF, Wells over Walker.

Gee that means alot.

 

[CrazyQ]

Gee that means alot.

True.

Even the dumbest of footy fans still get it right.

 

[Jeremias]

True.

Even the dumbest of footy fans still get it right.

Well, you're pretty dumb, and you got it wrong.

 

[CrazyQ]

Well, you're pretty dumb, and you got it wrong.

Not what every other official footy person or stats say

Now F off....






















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