Wells vs. Griffen

[The Zebra]

Wells has been pretty good this year but Griffen is our best player by some margin and in the top 10 players in the comp.
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What about Boyd?

Wells has been better this year so far. Just ask the coaches.

 

[The Zebra]

Which is why I said up until the round just gone. Read my post's carefully instead of just making up imaginary problems.

You flip flopped on the first point you were making.

i can't stand flip floppers.

 

[Gus]

You flip flopped on the first point you were making.

i can't stand flip floppers.

Now we are a better side than North. Until we beat a contender we were only going to be equal. But you could have made a case to say North were better, given ladder position. However We beat a contender last week and that has now proven we are better. We've improved over the season from being a poor side to now being competitive. While North have improved from being a poor side to a slightly less poor side. Both our clubs won an easy string of games but once we came up against contenders we won while North weren't even competitive. We are clearly a better side now. That wasn't so clear early in the season.

And all the while, Griffen has been the one constant. He stood out when we were a poor side, leading from the front. And now we've improved, he's still our best player along with Cooney and Boyd.

So my first point- until this round, Griffen was the standout in a poor side. Much as Wells is. The Carlton win has shown we've improved and we are no longer a poor side.

Not flip flopping at all. You just struggle with comprehension.

 

[100action]

What about Boyd?

Wells has been better this year so far. Just ask the coaches.

Boyd would be behind Morris, been overrated by the coaches this year.

 

[The Zebra]

Now we are a better side than North. Until we beat a contender we were only going to be equal. But you could have made a case to say North were better, given ladder position. However We beat a contender last week and that has now proven we are better. We've improved over the season from being a poor side to now being competitive. While North have improved from being a poor side to a slightly less poor side. Both our clubs won an easy string of games but once we came up against contenders we won while North weren't even competitive. We are clearly a better side now. That wasn't so clear early in the season.

And all the while, Griffen has been the one constant. He stood out when we were a poor side, leading from the front. And now we've improved, he's still our best player along with Cooney and Boyd.

So my first point- until this round, Griffen was the standout in a poor side. Much as Wells is. The Carlton win has shown we've improved and we are no longer a poor side.

Not flip flopping at all. You just struggle with comprehension.

That is the worst logic I have ever heard. Well done.

 

[staphy]

Stats for these 2 this year are similar , but Wells having he best season so far still does not stack up to Griffen

Grffien
Inside 50 - 91
Goals - 19
Contested Pos 155
Running Bounces 34

Wells
Inside 50 - 71
Goals - 11
Contested Pos 145
Running Bounces 8

Career's so far would go with Griffen, but this year alone Wells has had the better season.

Griffen is a very underrated player. Any team would love to have a big framed guy like him who can run and carry the footy. Wells this season is fit and injury free. He is doing a lot of North's grunt work in the middle and using his pace when he has space.

Tell me how Wells has had a better year, all stats show Griffen to be way ahead

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

Settle down. I am a huge Griffen fan and it is much more of a dig to suggest Wells is anywhere near Griffen.

Plus, the "very,very rare" comment about Griffen's form over 2 years is spot on.

Well done jungle horse! For once a North supporter is talking some sense and isn't carrying on like they are totally obsessed with everything Bulldogs...
Ha ha

 

[Dan]

Tell me how Wells has had a better year, all stats show Griffen to be way ahead

Stats, Supercoach points wise.......Griffen is ahead.

 

[staphy]

Stats, Supercoach points wise.......Griffen is ahead.

Yep correct Griffen leads all , Wells having 1 good year, still not close to Griffen.

As i said i thought the poll was Wells v Griffin from the Crow, we i saw Griffen from the Dogs i LMFAO.

Look at the poll results it's lol time, and the one's for Well are from North fans

 

[Dan]

Yep correct Griffen leads all , Wells having 1 good year, still not close to Griffen.

As i said i thought the poll was Wells v Griffin from the Crow, we i saw Griffen from the Dogs i LMFAO.

Look at the poll results it's lol time, and the one's for Well are from North fans

If you looked at my other posts in this thread.......I have Griffen ahead career wise, but not ahead of Wells this season.

OP, is the poll question based on this season alone or career so far?

 

[staphy]

If you looked at my other posts in this thread.......I have Griffen ahead career wise, but not ahead of Wells this season.

OP, is the poll question based on this season alone or career so far?

Griffen is way ahead of Wells this year, what are you talking about

 

[Dan]

Griffen is way ahead of Wells this year, what are you talking about

Based on what I've seen this year from him but also worth noting that coaches seem to think of him.

Think of the 1 or 2 good games a year he usually shows us over his career. Well he has done those good games consistently so far this season. He'll be in AA squad at least and would up there with Todd Goldstein on b'n'f votes.

 

[staphy]

Based on what I've seen this year from him but also worth noting that coaches seem to think of him.

Think of the 1 or 2 good games a year he usually shows us over his career. Well he has done those good games consistently so far this season. He'll be in AA squad at least and would up there with Todd Goldstein on b'n'f votes.

Griffen would be leading our BF, by the time they put the AA squad i am sure Griffen will be in.

If you are so sure the Wells has had a better year so far than Griffen even though the stats say Griffen is ahead.

Put a poll up who has had the better year so far Griffen or Wells, let the people vote.

 

[Dan]

It's an opinion, thats it.

Posters can state here if they think Wells had a better season or vice versa.

 

[Gus]

Yes but that doesn't mean we can't rubbish that opinion in true bigfooty fashion

 

[gimp!]

Both are top 3 draft picks in their respective drafts, both are classy by foot and both have pace to burn. Who would you rather?

Keep in mind Wells is in career best form and even in North's heavy losses is standing up tall.

haha, keep in mind that mentioning that Wells is in career best form doesn't help your cause when Griffen is still a lot better than him.

 

[September_Glory]

Griffin has been better for longer. So I'ld lean that way.

But Wells has never played in a very good side either. His effectiveness depends on others having an impact.

I see it a lot closer than most

 

[Igloo]

Griffin has been better for longer. So I'ld lean that way.

But Wells has never played in a very good side either. His effectiveness depends on others having an impact.

I see it a lot closer than most

North did make it to a prelim in 2007 or something. That is a pretty good side if you ask me.




Griffen has a B&F in a top 4 side, and is in the top 10 players in the league this year, and will win his 2nd B&F this year.

Wells has been stuffed from injury, but still hasn't reached the heights people expected him to.
Having his best year for his career this year, but Griffen's year has been better. Griffen is ahead in every stat except for marks (and hitouts, but that is just being 3rd man up, but both do that role well).

Obviously im biased, but I dont see how it is even a decision. Griffen has had a better career, despite being younger, and is having a better year this year.
Wells is still a very good player, and having a great year.

 

[Daz]

I think Griffen is marginally ahead. They're probably my two favourite players to watch.

The one stat that is in Wells' favour is that Griffen commits more turnovers and critical errors. Other than that, Griff just has Wells covered in most categories except for clearances and marks.

 

[staphy]

I think Griffen is marginally ahead. They're probably my two favourite players to watch.

The one stat that is in Wells' favour is that Griffen commits more turnovers and critical errors. Other than that, Griff just has Wells covered in most categories except for clearances and marks.

and Griffen has him covered in inside 50's, contested pos, total disp, and so on and so on.

 

[iGNITER]

Would love to have either at Collingwood.

If I had the choice to put either in the midfield right now I would go with Griffen.

Love the way he bursts through and takes the game on.

Would compliment a midfield of Swan, Pendlebury, Thomas and Ball wonderfully.

 

[The Zebra]

Griffen is way ahead of Wells this year, what are you talking about

Way ahead? You are kidding yourself. Apart from the fact that votes point to Wells having a better year, the stats are very close in terms on numbers on each line and the number of categories each lead the other on.

It is not definitive either way and to suggest either is way ahead ths year is bias to the extreme

Disposals - Griffen
Marks - Wells
Goals - Griffen
Clearances - Wells
I50 - Griffen
Tackles - Griffen
DE% - Wells

 

[staphy]

Way ahead? You are kidding yourself. Apart from the fact that votes point to Wells having a better year, the stats are very close in terms on numbers on each line and the number of categories each lead the other on.

It is not definitive either way and to suggest either is way ahead ths year is bias to the extreme

Disposals - Griffen
Marks - Wells
Goals - Griffen
Clearances - Wells
I50 - Griffen
Tackles - Griffen
DE% - Wells

As you can see Griffen way ahead, marks shite cheap ones across the back half don't count that stat.
Clearances Wells leads by 8 is one main stat that counts.
The others he is behind

Grffien
Inside 50 - 91
Goals - 19
Contested Pos 155
Running Bounces 34

Wells
Inside 50 - 71
Goals - 11
Contested Pos 145
Running Bounces 8

These are the stats that count, tell me how Wells is having a better year

 

[GarnerSmash]

Griffen would be leading our BF, by the time they put the AA squad i am sure Griffen will be in.

If you are so sure the Wells has had a better year so far than Griffen even though the stats say Griffen is ahead.

Put a poll up who has had the better year so far Griffen or Wells, let the people vote.

The coaches agree that his influence on games has been greater than that of Griffen this year. I guess coaches must know sweet f*** all about footy.

 

[Hodgepodge]

I'm pumped that Griffen has found some consistency since the 2010 finals series. Doesn't play a bad game these days, even in his poorest game this year he kicked 2 goals and had 16 touches.

I'ma go Griffin because he's the more aggressive player, more strength in the body, etc.