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We're a Shit Show - Fagan is a Complete Fraud, We're Rotten to the Core

Discussion in 'Adelaide' started by 1970crow, Aug 28, 2018.

  1. 1970crow

    1970crow Brownlow Medallist

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    Well, it's so obvious now that it doesn't even require comment. The board must go. They're still mostly the same crew that chose the extra year of draft penalties. It continues to dumbfound me that these muppets inherited the keys to the castle. Then these muppets get lucky by employing the mechanism clearing moron who's 2 year old is likely a better prospect in his role than he is.

    It's so tragic that it's actually funny. But, only the competent leave. Pyke is a huge problem also.

    **** us, we're done.
     
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  2. Daniel1812

    Daniel1812 Brownlow Medallist

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    Obviously the board must go, but Gov is replaceable
     
  3. 1970crow

    1970crow Brownlow Medallist

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    With Gov we get draft picks. The board won't go and there's no mechanism that can apply pressure to them.
     
  4. simmo97

    simmo97 Club Legend

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    i guess we should trade out all our key players and have a complete restart.
     
  5. Anzacpaul

    Anzacpaul Premiership Player

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    There is, however they sip chardonnay, eat apricot slice and cheer the boys on because they did their best each and every week.
     
  6. BACCS

    BACCS BigFooty Juggernaut

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    I'll probably support Carlton next year, this club has lost me!
     
  7. 1970crow

    1970crow Brownlow Medallist

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    No mention of the playing group nimrod. The post was clearly about the board and off-field. Go to bed, you're stupid.
     
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  8. simmo97

    simmo97 Club Legend

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    Pyke is the least of our worries let he got a mention in the post.
    yes their are issues off field but we made a GF last year with this board so it is not all doom and gloom.

    so saying we are done is a clear over-reaction
     
  9. 1970crow

    1970crow Brownlow Medallist

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    They can do no wrong in your eyes. We all recall your support throughout the last decade.
     
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  10. BACCS

    BACCS BigFooty Juggernaut

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    Is your next melt thread imminent? Just let me grab the popcorn first!
     
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  11. OutofTownCrow

    OutofTownCrow Premium Platinum

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    I think 1970crow makes a good point. Sure the emotion makes it a bit easy to think it just an angry rant ... but if you look at our club and identify where we have failed, the board shouldn't get a free pass through the shit-storm.

    Then again, what are we measuring the club on? Membership? Profit? Board Stability? The board is not tied to results we crave.

    Imagine if our board's only message was that we are here purely to win a premiership, we (rightly) wouldn't believe them. Actions not words.

    ROB CHAPMAN - Term expires March 2019
    JIM HAZEL - Term expires March 2021
    KATE ELLIS - Term expires March 2021
    LINDA FELLOWS - Term expires March 2021
    RICHARD FENNELL - Term expires March 2021
    ROD JAMESON - Term expires March 2020
    JIM MCDOWELL - Term expires March 2020
    MARK RICCIUTO - Term expires March 2019

    I notice we only have two women on our board. I watched the doco "Who to invade next?" again last night ... they highlight Iceland where it is law that you need to have at least 40% of women / men on the board. It was also pointed out that having at least 3 women on the board changed the culture.

    We do seem to meet the "at least 2 past players that can employ their mates" quota though.
     
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  12. El Doederino

    El Doederino Club Legend

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    Bankers, lawyers, academics and politicians. No wonder the club is going nowhere.
     
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  13. rocket18

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    Love the passion, I've long been in the AFC Board is the problem camp.

    Unfortunately there is nothing us supporters/members can do to push for change.

    Chapman should have gone with Trigg years ago.

    Roo seems to have added to our problems not fix them.

    Burton is so far out of his depth. throw him up aginst Balme for comparison - we exist to give people the opportunity to learn IN the role - instead of getting a proving performer, pathetic administration.

    Fagan talked the talk when he arrived but has slipped right in to the comfortable "don't upset the gravy train" mode.

    And unfortunately Pyke is heading down the same path by keeping on Clarke & Campo - surely 10 years as assistants at one club is enough FFS. How about some new midfield/ruck ideas.

    If he actually is happy with these two he is stuffed, if he doesnt want these two and he doesn't demand/achieve change he is still stuffed. Either way in a year or two he will join Craig and Sando as our list of rookie senior coaches sent packing grows.
     
  14. Cap

    Cap Brownlow Medallist

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    so surely we will here Fagan or Chapman on AA or MMM by the end of the week.
     
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    ad victoriam Norm Smith Medallist

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    Sorry but have to call bullshit on the mostly same crew. the only members of the board from the Tippett saga are Chapman (2007) and Hazel (2010) the next oldest member is Ruccuito who was the member Elect in 2014 followed by Jamison in 2015 and Fellows board appointed in 2015. rest were appointed in 2017. ie Ellis, McDowell and Fennel ( he did work for the Club 3 years prior but was not a Board Member)
    As for the Staff, CEO Fagan (2014) COO Smart (March 2013) Burton (no need to go there)
     
  16. relapse

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    For all those people who keep trying to pretend we don't have a player retention problem;

    2010 - Nathan Bock
    2011 - Jack Gunston
    Phil Davis
    2012 - Kurt Tippett
    2015 - Patrick Dangerfield
    2017 - Jake Lever
    Charlie Cameron
    2018 - Mitch McGovern

    Considering that we pretty much lose 1 first 22 player a year on average, we would have to be the worst in the AFL for player retention.

    That's just player retention, sadly our problems also go far deeper than that.
     
  17. Rorys458

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    How does every other club compare?
     
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  18. relapse

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    How many first 22 players do you remember other teams losing since 2010? I'm guessing not very many.

    Off the top of my head I would say that Brisbane might be the only one to come close to us with GC and GWS not far behind. Other than that our numbers are a total outlier in comparison to the rest of the league.
     
  19. marvin

    marvin Premiership Player

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    2012 Clint Young
    2013 Lance Franklin
    2013 Xavier Ellis
    2014 Kyle Cheney and Luke Lowden :)p)
    2015 Matt Suckling
    2016 Brad Hill
    2016 Jordan Lewis
    2016 Sam Mitchell

    Add to that they let McGlynn and Kennedy walk for peanuts in 2009.
     
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  20. Smoooothy

    Smoooothy TAKE THAT BACK!!

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    buddy is the only one on that list that walked on the club. the others were either traded or delisted. Jordan and sam also are/were at the end of their careers and were pushed out

    our list above are all players who have asked for a trade
     
  21. marvin

    marvin Premiership Player

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    That's not correct.

    Brad Hill asked for a trade to Freo.
    Suckling was a free agent.
    Young was a free agent.
    Ellis was a free agent.

    They all walked. Somehow Hawthorn survives.
     
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  22. Smoooothy

    Smoooothy TAKE THAT BACK!!

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    and those 3 were arguably best 22 at best. hill was a loss for them but they covered it
     
  23. jackster83

    jackster83 Tankin' for Rankine

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    The Dogs have lost a few, with Dahlhaus seemingly on his way out as well.
     
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  24. rocket18

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    That list really compares to the players we have lost :drunk:
     
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  25. rocket18

    rocket18 Norm Smith Medallist

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    Griffen and Stringer were pushed out by the club, might as well throw Vince onto our list.
     
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