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Always like ople who back their side
Where are they going? Same as all of us ... into the next round.
Eagles fans like myself expect better.
Upgrayedd
A Vote for Clive is a Vote for Justice
High pick. As i said
Future gone. Pack em up. Maybe a relocation to port headland
Tldr. Eagles fans and internally they know where they are at. Window open but had a ahit injury with nic nat (he makes the midfield click). Priddas has dropped. It might be 1-2 moves which put them into contention. Picking put petrie over a project 18y/o and one of the best midfielders in the last 15 years for pick 88 doesnt mean anything
Will be right back in contention next year if the tough calls are made. Will still have one of the best spines in the competition, and got Naitanui and Lycett to come back still.
This has to be the best 22 for 2018
B Sheppard Barrass Hurn
HB Yeo Mcgovern Nelson
C Duggan Mitchell Gaff
HF Venables Mcgovern Jetta
F Rioli Kennedy Cripps
R Naitanui Shuey Sheed
I Partington Darling Lycett Cole
With the following as depth:
Mutimer Karpany Hutch Hill Schofield Vardy Mackenzie Wellingham Redden
I might be biased but I don't see how the above team couldn't strongly contend for another top 4 position. Need to make either Shuey or Mcgovern captain, Hurn isn't up to it and those 2 lead from the front.
Priddis has to go out and stay out, cannot understate the negative effect he's having on the way the entire midfield operates. He no longer offers anything offensively as he is no longer a contested beast/clearance machine, offers absolutely nothing defensively as he is probably one of the slowest players in the competition, he takes up pretty much 1/3 of all the on ball time available to any player which holds back the development of the young guys. The team has essentially been playing a man down all year with him in the side.
The midfield will look a million times better with him out and Naitanui back in the team, forwardline will be so much more dynamic with Rioli and Venables in, and assuming we manage to trade M Gov in.
I'd also seriously consider trading Gaff and Darling, they would still have some good trade value, particularly Gaff.
The team is going nowhere if some hard calls aren't made, but it isn't dire straits like some people are making it out to be. Got a good group of young players in Sheed, Barrass, Nelson, Duggan, Yeo, Venables, Rioli, Partington, Cole, and still got a good few years out of Kennedy, Naitanui and Shuey.
This has to be the best 22 for 2018
B Sheppard Barrass Hurn
HB Yeo Mcgovern Nelson
C Duggan Mitchell Gaff
HF Venables Mcgovern Jetta
F Rioli Kennedy Cripps
R Naitanui Shuey Sheed
I Partington Darling Lycett Cole
With the following as depth:
Mutimer Karpany Hutch Hill Schofield Vardy Mackenzie Wellingham Redden
I might be biased but I don't see how the above team couldn't strongly contend for another top 4 position. Need to make either Shuey or Mcgovern captain, Hurn isn't up to it and those 2 lead from the front.
Priddis has to go out and stay out, cannot understate the negative effect he's having on the way the entire midfield operates. He no longer offers anything offensively as he is no longer a contested beast/clearance machine, offers absolutely nothing defensively as he is probably one of the slowest players in the competition, he takes up pretty much 1/3 of all the on ball time available to any player which holds back the development of the young guys. The team has essentially been playing a man down all year with him in the side.
The midfield will look a million times better with him out and Naitanui back in the team, forwardline will be so much more dynamic with Rioli and Venables in, and assuming we manage to trade M Gov in.
I'd also seriously consider trading Gaff and Darling, they would still have some good trade value, particularly Gaff.
The team is going nowhere if some hard calls aren't made, but it isn't dire straits like some people are making it out to be. Got a good group of young players in Sheed, Barrass, Nelson, Duggan, Yeo, Venables, Rioli, Partington, Cole, and still got a good few years out of Kennedy, Naitanui and Shuey.
Petrie was picked up as #3 or #4 ruckman - I wasn't happy, but he has done as best he can, I was wrong & Vardy will be forever grateful.
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West coast are still a very good side. If kennedy played last night they win and are in the hunt for top 4
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Players born before 1990 (28+ this year):
1989: Masten (171 games), Schofield (159), Hill (171), Jetta (144)
1988: Mackenzie (137), Wellingham (167), Giles (63)
1987: Hurn (212), Kennedy (198)
1986: LeCras (188), Butler (165)
1985: Priddis (231)
1982: Mitchell (300+), Petrie (300+)
That's a lot of experience for not a lot of output. We are the oldest team this year (skewed by Mitchell and Petrie who are known short term propositions) but most of those guys above are replaceable - the issue is the that the club don't see a need to replace them.
Our worst season since 2010 was 2013 then we won 9 games and finished 13th. The last 6 years have been 17, 15, 9, 11, 16, 16 wins and we're currently 7-6. That's not exactly a poor record on paper. Only 7 teams have made the GF in that time, and we're one of them.
We'll end up around parity this year, 11-11. Again, not the worst. But we're treading water. We need the season to go to s**t not for the draft picks that will come with it but the realisation that we need to make big changes to be a real contender. We don't need to turn over 3/4 of the list or anything and we have some good young players coming through, but the mix of the last 3-4 years is stale and needs to change. I don't think Cole or Duggan or Karpany are future Brownlow winners or anything, but them coming in recently has made a difference.
1989: Masten (171 games), Schofield (159), Hill (171), Jetta (144)
1988: Mackenzie (137), Wellingham (167), Giles (63)
1987: Hurn (212), Kennedy (198)
1986: LeCras (188), Butler (165)
1985: Priddis (231)
1982: Mitchell (300+), Petrie (300+)
That's a lot of experience for not a lot of output. We are the oldest team this year (skewed by Mitchell and Petrie who are known short term propositions) but most of those guys above are replaceable - the issue is the that the club don't see a need to replace them.
Our worst season since 2010 was 2013 then we won 9 games and finished 13th. The last 6 years have been 17, 15, 9, 11, 16, 16 wins and we're currently 7-6. That's not exactly a poor record on paper. Only 7 teams have made the GF in that time, and we're one of them.
We'll end up around parity this year, 11-11. Again, not the worst. But we're treading water. We need the season to go to s**t not for the draft picks that will come with it but the realisation that we need to make big changes to be a real contender. We don't need to turn over 3/4 of the list or anything and we have some good young players coming through, but the mix of the last 3-4 years is stale and needs to change. I don't think Cole or Duggan or Karpany are future Brownlow winners or anything, but them coming in recently has made a difference.
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Also Sheed and Barrass.
The hardest thing is the admin realising that Priddis, LeCras and others need a tap on the shoulder at the end of the season.
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I rate those two highly.
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Hit the nail on the head.
We need to be playing some of the kids that are killing it in the WAFL. MC have only just began to relent and do this, and our last two games have shown an increased intensity around the ball which we've otherwise lacked all season.
It's the meddling MC wanting good blokes who've been around the club for so long in the best 22 regardless of their form, guys like LeCras for example who've been utter s**t all year yet keep getting called up. They're not in our future flag side, MC is trying to force them into it.
*MC being the blokes besides Simmo, who we speculate on the WC board is being forced to make some selections against his own judgement.
Ignoring those trolling, fair discussion IMHO.
Pretty worrying how many in their side most weeks are over 27. It's fine if you're Hawthorn of 2013-15 but if you're out of the eight or bouncing out first week then you're in a bit of trouble.
I understand why Simpson isn't changing a lot. If you're a chance to make the eight you may as well go hell for leather to make it - it could turn into something and takes some pressure off. The problem is that they're going to lose a lot of these players soon. It could get ugly if they don't have a few coming through.
If it were me I'd be dropping the underperforming oldies and playing a younger side but then again it's not my job on the line.
I understand why Simpson isn't changing a lot. If you're a chance to make the eight you may as well go hell for leather to make it - it could turn into something and takes some pressure off. The problem is that they're going to lose a lot of these players soon. It could get ugly if they don't have a few coming through.
If it were me I'd be dropping the underperforming oldies and playing a younger side but then again it's not my job on the line.
I see the OP has moved on from his constant posts of Melbourne are the most disappointing team and Simon Goodwin is no good.
Someone really needs to take his posting "abilities" away.
Someone really needs to take his posting "abilities" away.
Forward Press
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Please, he was trolling West Coast long before Melbourne.
Just ignore and discuss with posters that actually want a discussion.
Upgrayedd
A Vote for Clive is a Vote for Justice
Petrie has played 4 more games then you realisticly would have liked him to. He's contributed well in one of them, Best you could ever hope for in a rookie pick up
Kennedy is the only glaring concern into the future.
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I think your definition of loaded up differs to the average person's definition.
Petrie is an old hack to cover for an injured ruck brigade. Not going to win you a flag.
Mitchell while still handy isn't going to win you a flag either.
I like Topkent's description of your posting as sensationalist.
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