West vs Buckley

[Footylover1]

I have to admit Buckley has the better skill of the two but when you want a player to do the tough in and under stuff I would choose Scott West first without a doubt.

 

[doppleganger]

I have to admit Buckley has the better skill of the two but when you want a player to do the tough in and under stuff I would choose Scott West first without a doubt.

only problem there is that N.Buckley holds the record for the most clearances in a season with 170 averaged over 7 a game

so he can win the ball better and then use it better too!

 

[Strachuniee]

pfft...

Scott "i struggle to kick 40 metres" West being compared to Buckley?

what a joke

whats the next poll.....

Tarkyn Lockyer vs Chris Judd?

yeh what a joke, tarks would win hands down

But seriously as much as i like scott west and regardless of the amout of respect i have for him, Nathan Buckley is by far the better player. Bucks has been the most consisent player over the last 10 years in terms of not onlt possessions but also the influence he has upon games. He stands up at the right times and has one of the most accurate and pentrating kicks, and contrary to popular belief he goes in hard and finds his own ball (as indicated by being collingwoods highest hard ball getter)

 

[Astro_]

the dogs look to give the ball to gilbee at every chance possible, because he is their best kick, the oppostion often leave west alone because he doesn't use it that well.

We look to give it to our running players at every possible chance. West uses the ball very well, just not the best kick. Leave West alone at your own peril, his handballs are lighting (you would have seen this in the EF).

I doubt players are instructed to leave West alone. He is tagged week in week out and still managers to fire the ball out to our running players. Absolute star.

Bucks in this poll tho.

 

[parrot]

As far as I'm aware, I thought captains were allowed to berate their teammates if the situation allowed for it, sometimes you can only learn the hard way.

I have heard the stories too but most if it are myths. On the same note, now he has matured, since he was given the captaincy he hasn't been the same on field individual he used to be (or was branded to be in that respect).

What's that got to do with the comparison? Absolutely nothing!

Has absolutely everything to do with it. Buckley has no doubt had some great individual performances, but his poor attitude toward his team-mates has been a negative. West not only is performing a lot better than Buckley at the moment, he also is a much better team-player. Many Pie fans will recall how hated Buckley was by his team-mates earlier in his career. He has mellowed a bit since then, but blasting his team-mates at the quarter breaks, before the coach has had a go, especially after sitting on the pine, brings back memories of the old Buckley. Suspect these incidents will only get more frequent as the career winds down and frustration escalates.

 

[emperor]

In his prime, Buckley simply because he can be an devastating midfielder and forward, with sublime skills. Personally I didn't mind the fact that he used to blast his teammates, I think some of you are being a little bit precious in regards to his perceived image.

 

[Footylover1]

why would the dogs look to give the ball to west when he doesn't kick the ball well!??

the dogs look to give the ball to gilbee at every chance possible, because he is their best kick, the oppostion often leave west alone because he doesn't use it that well.

And who usually gives the ball out to Gilbee and others? That's right, Scott West!

 

[Scruba]

why would he be looking to kick it to gilbee he is a defender..

 

[doppleganger]

We look to give it to our running players at every possible chance. West uses the ball very well, just not the best kick. Leave West alone at your own peril, his handballs are lighting (you would have seen this in the EF).

I doubt players are instructed to leave West alone. He is tagged week in week out and still managers to fire the ball out to our running players. Absolute star.

Bucks in this poll tho.

in the first game of 06, the pies didn't put much work into west, and he went on to get 40disposals and we won by 6goals!!

remember that game that eagleton was targetted after his blistering first quarter and was shut out of the game, but west was left to pick up touches because in open play he doesn't hurt u as much with his ball usage, compared to the other doggies midfielders

but west is still a champion

 

[Astro_]

in the first game of 06, the pies didn't put much work into west, and he went on to get 40disposals and we won by 6goals!!

got to remember we lost two players early that game and played a half with 2 less players. The pies were in red hot form coming into that game, and our coach said afterwards it was one gusty performance. For the record...S. West 3 votes.

You let him get 36 disposals in the final and he ripped you apart.

 

[doppleganger]

got to remember we lost two players early that game and played a half with 2 less players. The pies were in red hot form coming into that game, and our coach said afterwards it was one gusty performance. For the record...S. West 3 votes.

You let him get 36 disposals in the final and he ripped you apart.

of course if u get 40 disposals people will vote u best on ground, as the ball is always in ur hands.

still eagleton set up the bulldogs that night, first quarter was kicking goals, drilling 50m+ penetrating passes, he was killing us. after quarter time a hard tag went to him and pies ran over the top

 

[Astro_]

of course if u get 40 disposals people will vote u best on ground, as the ball is always in ur hands.

still eagleton set up the bulldogs that night, first quarter was kicking goals, drilling 50m+ penetrating passes, he was killing us. after quarter time a hard tag went to him and pies ran over the top

I remember driving into that game (i was running late and missed the first qrt and a bit) and BT on MMM was saying how eagle was ripping it up. got to the game half way through the 2nd and didnt see the bald eagle anywhere.

Massive crowd at that game from memory. I also remember that night looking at these two chicks 1 row in front of me playing with their phones. They had a video of two chicks going for it (kissing) from their school....was thinking to myself "wish that happened in my school days". That was about the excitment of my night!

 

[blaisee]

One is a one team footballer who is loyal, puts his teamates first and his own game last. the other is a champion individual playing a team game who still counts his possessions and is the ultimate egomaniac!

both have failed to play in a premiership, west is the only one out of the two that still has a chance of rectifying this.

 

[doppleganger]

I remember driving into that game (i was running late and missed the first qrt and a bit) and BT on MMM was saying how eagle was ripping it up. got to the game half way through the 2nd and didnt see the bald eagle anywhere.

Massive crowd at that game from memory. I also remember that night looking at these two chicks 1 row in front of me playing with their phones. They had a video of two chicks going for it (kissing) from their school....was thinking to myself "wish that happened in my school days". That was about the excitment of my night!

it was a cracking game, eagle did put on a show in the first quarter

was actually a really good game to watch, both teams just going for it

but the dogs ran out of legs, due to injury unfortunately

 

[parrot]

One is a one team footballer who is loyal, puts his teamates first and his own game last. the other is a champion individual playing a team game who still counts his possessions and is the ultimate egomaniac!

both have failed to play in a premiership, west is the only one out of the two that still has a chance of rectifying this.

Fair summary. Buckley's poor attitude toward his team-mates will always be a blight, on an otherwise very good individual career at Pie Land.

 

[J-Ro-20]

I went for Buckley, skills wise he is miles ahead of west. he was miles ahead of most players even when he was at the Bears! But as a workhorse id have to go with West. Like Robert Harvey, West is consistant and has been an amazing workhorse for over a decade.

 

[nick_savo]

I went for Buckley, skills wise he is miles ahead of west. he was miles ahead of most players even when he was at the Bears! But as a workhorse id have to go with West. Like Robert Harvey, West is consistant and has been an amazing workhorse for over a decade.

Yer, West I really feel sorry for West that he hasn't won a brownlow, he really deserve one. Maybe this year will be his year but i doubt it, if he was going to get one it was going to be last year. But you never know stranger things have happened.

 

[Coin_Toss]

West is consistant

What are you trying to say?

Buckley is also consistent. He was our shining light for most of the 90s and he never failed to deliver.

West is consistent but he won't be remembered as an AFL great. He's not in the same league as Buckley.

 

[Kings Army]

Good to see West lead - not much between them - Bucks is over rated and West is under rated - but not much between them as this poll shows!

 

[Tarkyn_24]

This poll deserves to be 50/50

Two great players, absolute masters of the game. Couldn't seperate them.

Obliging to the fact I'm a Collingwood supporter, I voted Bukley

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Yer, West I really feel sorry for West that he hasn't won a brownlow, he really deserve one. Maybe this year will be his year but i doubt it, if he was going to get one it was going to be last year. But you never know stranger things have happened.

He deserved 2000 Brownlow

2000 Brownlow = Woewodin

Now I know why umpires are abused...

 

[doppleganger]

He deserved 2000 Brownlow

2000 Brownlow = Woewodin

Now I know why umpires are abused...

pffft West didn't deserve the 2000 brownlow, if anything Buckley did!!

1998 rankings
http://www.finalsiren.com/AFLPlayerStats.asp?SeasonID=1998&Round=&Go=Go&Sort=AverageRating+Desc

1999 rankings
http://www.finalsiren.com/AFLPlayerStats.asp?SeasonID=1999&Round=&Go=Go&Sort=AverageRating+Desc

2000 rankings
http://www.finalsiren.com/AFLPlayerStats.asp?SeasonID=2000&Round=&Go=Go&Sort=AverageRating+Desc

2001 rankings
http://www.finalsiren.com/AFLPlayerStats.asp?SeasonID=2001&Round=&Go=Go&Sort=AverageRating+Desc

2003 rankings
http://www.finalsiren.com/AFLPlayerStats.asp?SeasonID=2003&Round=&Go=Go&Sort=AverageRating+Desc

5 out of 6 years Buckley was statistically the best player in the league, if that isn't consistently brilliant i dont know what is!

just a pity that the pies were a rabble so the individual awards went to players from succesful teams like woewy, when pies win some games surprise surprise Buckley wins a brownlow!!

 

[HFF]

Good to see West lead - not much between them - Bucks is over rated and West is under rated - but not much between them as this poll shows!

Come on mate you cannot be constantly winning best and fairests throughout your career along with charlie, norm, a rising star and several AA jumpers and be overrated. Are you kidding me?? Westy is not under rated (perhaps just hasnt won a brownlow) but is highly regarded and respected but buckley is in a category of one of the game's elite over the past decade with the likes of hird's voss' etc. West is a champion dont get me wrong but bucks is elite.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Agreed mate

 

[Not a Wellman]

They are both the same sort of player in a sence, if Buckley gets 30+ touches it's not certianty Collingwood win and the same goes for West. Where as if Voss did you know 9 out of 10 Brisbane would win.

I voted West cause i rekon he gets more of the hard ball and less recieved.