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these kids might struggle but if u dont start playing yours u might just find yourself in the same position as yarraville because you wont have any left:eek:
Settle down mate, don't start comparing Spotty with Yarraville i think thunderball's post summed it up. Don't worry about how Spotty develop their youngsters i think we have a proven track record with our youngsters playing quality senior footy, and to add Urch, Houli, Ward all spotty juniors.

To question how Spotswood select their team and develop their juniors into senior footballers is ridiculous, i think we stand amongst the best in doing this!!
 

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Settle down mate, don't start comparing Spotty with Yarraville i think thunderball's post summed it up. Don't worry about how Spotty develop their youngsters i think we have a proven track record with our youngsters playing quality senior footy, and to add Urch, Houli, Ward all spotty juniors.

To question how Spotswood select their team and develop their juniors into senior footballers is ridiculous, i think we stand amongst the best in doing this!!
Nice retort to Astro there DaVinci. M.Cassidy was a good footballer but like a lot of us he has found a good paddock. Can't play as he did as a Junior 15kgs heavier.
 

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Settle down mate, don't start comparing Spotty with Yarraville i think thunderball's post summed it up. Don't worry about how Spotty develop their youngsters i think we have a proven track record with our youngsters playing quality senior footy, and to add Urch, Houli, Ward all spotty juniors.

To question how Spotswood select their team and develop their juniors into senior footballers is ridiculous, i think we stand amongst the best in doing this!!
The question is, are they all products of quality coaching or their own desire to get somewhere? Can't always advocate that the club got them to where they are. It's an opinion thing I guess. Who are some of the junior coaches of those boys?
 

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Ok people let's put our reputations on the line with some predictions on how the ladder will finish, we have some important games coming up for all sides on the run home and into the finals.
Also let's just say i know we have had some big margins in alot of games but at least the fight for a finals spot is still open to 6 teams and may stay that way til round 18.
Injuries and availability will play an important part.
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spotty
albion
st.albans
sunshine
I went for sunshine to sneek in alot will depend on this week, but i believe they have the talent to beat any team on their day, hoppers seem to be slipping again and i don't think their depth is as good as it has been in the past.
Albion should hold on to 3rd spot and i think we might be able to sneak into top spot if we can beat hoppers at home, % mite play apart.
Look fora great finals series and albion and spotty to play two weeks in a row.
OTHER PREDICTIONS PLEASE
 

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Re: Western Region Football League Team (Part 2)
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Settle down mate, don't start comparing Spotty with Yarraville i think thunderball's post summed it up. Don't worry about how Spotty develop their youngsters i think we have a proven track record with our youngsters playing quality senior footy, and to add Urch, Houli, Ward all spotty juniors.

To question how Spotswood select their team and develop their juniors into senior footballers is ridiculous, i think we stand amongst the best in doing this!!


The question is, are they all products of quality coaching or their own desire to get somewhere? Can't always advocate that the club got them to where they are. It's an opinion thing I guess. Who are some of the junior coaches of those boys?

All 3 boys were at Spotty from a young age. They would have been coached by the likes of Pat Hinds, Gavin Wood, Tony Boyd, Ted Whitten, Robert McGhie and Gavin Langlands amongst many others. Sure, they would have had a strong desire to succeed but do not underestimate the contribution that quality coaching makes in the nurturing, development and direction of that desire.
 

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Ok people let's put our reputations on the line with some predictions on how the ladder will finish, we have some important games coming up for all sides on the run home and into the finals.
Also let's just say i know we have had some big margins in alot of games but at least the fight for a finals spot is still open to 6 teams and may stay that way til round 18.
Injuries and availability will play an important part.
LADDER AFTER RD 18
colts
spotty
albion
st.albans
sunshine
I went for sunshine to sneek in alot will depend on this week, but i believe they have the talent to beat any team on their day, hoppers seem to be slipping again and i don't think their depth is as good as it has been in the past.
Albion should hold on to 3rd spot and i think we might be able to sneak into top spot if we can beat hoppers at home, % mite play apart.
Look fora great finals series and albion and spotty to play two weeks in a row.
OTHER PREDICTIONS PLEASE
Rock. The ladder will be as you say it will be. I too believe that Sunshine could beat anyone on their day. I saw the ANZAC day game against Spotty and they were excellent all over the ground. Don't know why things have gone wrong for a month perhaps Trav can tell us.
Close inspection of scores against so far will show that it may be a battle of who can strangle other teams and quell the influence of the big guns up forward. Instead of the big guns firing, I reckon it may be a battle of the defences.
Scores against
Albion 1049
Spotty 775
Colts 902
Saints 1062
Kangas 1009

Fair differences there. We seem to be too concerned about who's going to crack the ton in the goal kicking and which forward is a dog, too fat, overrated. Just some food for thought.
 
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I don't underestimate nor do I overrate a coach's input. Boyd was fantastic as a football coach and a life coach (for lack of a better term). Have heard nothing but good things about his influence in football and in life. Don't know much about the others.
Didn't Gavin Langlands coach the Spotswood U18's to 4 successive GF's and lost the 5th one by a point, or close to these numbers?
 

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Didn't Gavin Langlands coach the Spotswood U18's to 4 successive GF's and lost the 5th one by a point, or close to these numbers?
Yep, fair effort. Forgot that I read his name in Thunder's list. Great technical knowledge and a knack of finding a good formula. Did have some very good players at his disposal as well. However you do need to get them to gel together and he did that well.
 

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I don't underestimate nor do I overrate a coach's input. Boyd was fantastic as a football coach and a life coach (for lack of a better term). Have heard nothing but good things about his influence in football and in life. Don't know much about the others.
Sorry Thunder, I got Tony and Michael mixed up. I meant Michael Boyd but he was a few years back now. Actually, many years.
 

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Sorry Thunder, I got Tony and Michael mixed up. I meant Michael Boyd but he was a few years back now. Actually, many years.
Good coaching can not only assist in player development but also retain junior players in the sport. I hated my U16's coach and for that left footy for 5 years and only came back by chance at another club to play with a mate.
Another junior coach who is very well respected from Spotswood is Dave Caras. Extremely well respected by all juniors he has coached.

A player can have talent but if they are not directed properly then they could easily be lost in the system and to the sport!
 

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Ok people let's put our reputations on the line with some predictions on how the ladder will finish, we have some important games coming up for all sides on the run home and into the finals.
Also let's just say i know we have had some big margins in alot of games but at least the fight for a finals spot is still open to 6 teams and may stay that way til round 18.
Injuries and availability will play an important part.
LADDER AFTER RD 18
colts
spotty
albion
st.albans
sunshine
I went for sunshine to sneek in alot will depend on this week, but i believe they have the talent to beat any team on their day, hoppers seem to be slipping again and i don't think their depth is as good as it has been in the past.
Albion should hold on to 3rd spot and i think we might be able to sneak into top spot if we can beat hoppers at home, % mite play apart.
Look fora great finals series and albion and spotty to play two weeks in a row.
OTHER PREDICTIONS PLEASE
I think your pretty close ROCK except i think Spotty will finish on top, i guess that just comes down to who we each want to end on top haha.
As for Sunshine and Hoppers i think it will be close but Sunshine will sneak in. The ANZAC day match against Spotty showed that they can perform at a very high level and Hoppers just have ?????? written all over them.
 

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Sorry Thunder, I got Tony and Michael mixed up. I meant Michael Boyd but he was a few years back now. Actually, many years.
Michael Boyd what a great coach but an even better bloke, he coached me at port melb u/19's and we won the premiership, he brought together alot of players from the west and formed a great team.The pmfc has a proud history but that team is the only u/19 flag the club ever won and the credit should go mainly to michael boyd.
 

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Michael Boyd what a great coach but an even better bloke, he coached me at port melb u/19's and we won the premiership, he brought together alot of players from the west and formed a great team.The pmfc has a proud history but that team is the only u/19 flag the club ever won and the credit should go mainly to michael boyd.
I haven't heard a bad word about Boydy as a coach. Had the knack of getting blokes to play for each other and him. However the latter was a distant second option.
Doesn't make a bad pizza or Chinese food. Good ol So'n'Sos in Laverton. Be there!! ka ching. There's a free plug if you're reading this Boydy.

Bruce Davis was also another gun coach with Will under 19's a few years back. Heard some great stories about how he used to get the players to take responsibility for their own actions and preparation. Even sucked the boys into demanding an extra training night (3 nights) in the lead up to the Grand Final and they won. This was back in the time that 3 nights a week was rare at most clubs.
 

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Nice retort to Astro there DaVinci. M.Cassidy was a good footballer but like a lot of us he has found a good paddock. Can't play as he did as a Junior 15kgs heavier.

what do you mean WAS he's only 19

still makes him a hell of a lot slimmer then some of his the players he could be playing against
 

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[All 3 boys were at Spotty from a young age. They would have been coached by the likes of Pat Hinds, Gavin Wood, Tony Boyd, Ted Whitten, Robert McGhie and Gavin Langlands amongst many others. Sure, they would have had a strong desire to succeed but do not underestimate the contribution that quality coaching makes in the nurturing, development and direction of that desire.[/quote]

Pat Hinds as a junior administrator set up a 10 year plan for the juniors in the late 90s, he got the junior teams out of B and C grade put them into the As and hoped that in 10 years time to have these young boys playing in a strong spotty senior side, lots thought he was mad, he stood on a few toes. the strength of spotty juniors is a credit to him.
 

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I haven't heard a bad word about Boydy as a coach. Had the knack of getting blokes to play for each other and him. However the latter was a distant second option.
Doesn't make a bad pizza or Chinese food. Good ol So'n'Sos in Laverton. Be there!! ka ching. There's a free plug if you're reading this Boydy.

Bruce Davis was also another gun coach with Will under 19's a few years back. Heard some great stories about how he used to get the players to take responsibility for their own actions and preparation. Even sucked the boys into demanding an extra training night (3 nights) in the lead up to the Grand Final and they won. This was back in the time that 3 nights a week was rare at most clubs.
Boydy was a big influence in preparing me for higher standard footy and is a great bloke. His chicken and black bean sauce has also copped a caning over the years.

Bruce Davis was at Willy when I was there. Very intelligent bloke (probably too smart for footballers) and knew what he was on about. The only thing was that a lot of the blokes didnt.
 

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Boydy was a big influence in preparing me for higher standard footy and is a great bloke. His chicken and black bean sauce has also copped a caning over the years.

Bruce Davis was at Willy when I was there. Very intelligent bloke (probably too smart for footballers) and knew what he was on about. The only thing was that a lot of the blokes didnt.
You must have a crack at the Tandoori pizza, damn good tucker.

Bruce did preach a bit but his influence on players I know is undeniable. I don't think that anyone can be too intelligent for footballers. If they can't put their message in ways to understand (without losing meaning) then maybe they aren't as intelligent as you think.
 

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"Pat Hinds as a junior administrator set up a 10 year plan for the juniors in the late 90s, he got the junior teams out of B and C grade put them into the As and hoped that in 10 years time to have these young boys playing in a strong spotty senior side, lots thought he was mad, he stood on a few toes. the strength of spotty juniors is a credit to him."

Hear, hear! Does he get the credit he deserves or is the usual happenings at footy clubs the order of the day? You know, give the credit to the blokes who benefit from the planning i.e. the coaches?
 
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