Competition "What If" Wednesdays: Week 43 - Camberwell VFL Expansion

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Each Wednesday (most likely not) a non-existing team that has been known in the AFL world as a proposition or a former team will be brought to life!

Each comp will run for 1 week or so and the poll will run for 1 week or more if needed.
The winner picks the next team in the list below​

There are some routes you can go by if you're stuck

• The chosen team has entered the competition in 2017 along with the current 18 OR
• Design kits as if they've been in the competition all along OR
• Go back in time when the team entered the competition or when a merger would've happened (if applicable)
  eg. Design kits in 1991 when Adelaide entered the competition as the Crows
  Design kits in 1997 when the newly formed Melbourne Hawks would play their first season OR
• (For VFL Expansion) Accompany your kits with a backstory on how the team came to be

Your job is to produce a:

• Home kit
• Away kit (Home with white shorts is acceptable)
• OPTIONAL 3rd
  • Clash kit
  • Heritage kit
  • Other kit
• Club Logo (OPTIONAL BUT ENCOURAGED)

This week we ask....

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NEW RULES 23/6/15 (Read Carefully):

1. Kits and Logo must be in 1 picture (Makes polls easier to fit everything in)
2. The kits can consist of just a Jumper (Shorts and socks are encouraged to give a full identity effect)
3. Minimum 2 kits and there's no limit to how many kits you can include after that
   eg. Home and Away and/or Clash and/or Heritage and/or Others
4. Maximum 2 entries per person
5. For the former teams and Expansion teams I'll allow the use of the last jumper design the club used only once (Opens the door for that modern creativity)
6. For the proposed teams Directly copying a kit (Colours and design) of any team is disallowed
7. For the mergers, no restrictions. You can take any elements from the clubs involved in the merger and create whatever you please as long as you don't copy any proposed designs that have been brought up already
8. Proposed and Former teams - Do not use logos or jumper artwork that is being used or has been used by the club before (exception in Rule 5 for former teams)
9. Any team - Creating a logo from scratch is encouraged but you may take inspiration from and/or alter any sports logo to drive home your design.
10. Any proposed designs that have been brought up for the current team will not be allowed for use
11. Proposed Teams - You may use any colours you like even if it is being used by the team as long as it doesn't replicate any past/present designs the team has

TL-DR Version

1. Just make an entry and I'll pull you up on anything

Any other questions will be answered

List of teams
Now with links to past polls!

Former

• University
• Brisbane Bears
• Fitzroy Lions

Mergers

• Melbourne Hawks (Melbourne Demons and Hawthorn Hawks merger)
• Melbourne Lions (Melbourne Demons and Fitzroy Lions merger)
• Fitzroy Bulldogs (Fitzroy Lions and Footscray Bulldogs merger)
• Norwood - Sturt merger for AFL spot
• North Melbourne relocation to the Gold Coast
• North Fitzroy Kangaroos (North Melbourne Kangaroos and Fitzroy Lions merger)
• Glenelg - South Adelaide merger for AFL spot
• Sydney - Brisbane Bears Merger (1992)
• The Cartel (Players from Central Dist, North Adel, West Adel, Woodville-West Torrens picked from their respective sides to play AFL Football)- More Info
• Carlton - St Kilda merger
• Sydney - North Melbourne Merger (INFO)
• Fremantle Sharks (East Fremantle and South Fremantle merger)
• Dandenong - Fitzroy Merger (INFO)
• Fitzroy - St Kilda Merger (INFO)
• North Melbourne - Melbourne Merger (INFO)

Proposed

• Sydney Celtics
• Tasmanian Team
• ACT Team
• Southport Sharks to the AFL - 1996
• Melbourne team relocation to Los Angeles (INFO)
• Norwood to takeover Adelaide Crows - 1995
• NEW ADDITION: Northern Territory Team (INFO)
• Norwood to the AFL - 1994
• Fitzroy moving to Brisbane OR Gold Coast - 1986
• St Kilda relocation to Perth (INFO)
• Sydney Lions (Fitzroy Lions relocation to Sydney) - 1981 (INFO)
• Footscray relocation to Queensland - 1981 (INFO)
• Fitzroy relocation to Canberra - 1996
• Fremantle
  • Hammers
  • Mariners
  • Union
  • Courage
  • Dolphins
  • Stokers
• Greater Western Sydney
  • Wolves
  • Pride
  • Stallions
• Adelaide
  • Falcons
  • Sharks
  • Arrows
  • Lakers
  • Rams
  • Dolphins
• Port Adelaide
  • Raiders
  • Pirates
  • Mariners
  • Sharks
• Gold Coast
  • Stingrays
  • Ironmen
  • Marlins
  • Lifesavers
• Brisbane
  • Rockets
  • Breakers

VFL Expansion
Click Here for details on the teams listed

• Brunswick - 1925
• City FC (North Melbourne - West Melbourne Merger) - 1908
• Port Melbourne - 1925
• Brighton Penguins - 1907 & 1925
• East Perth - 1980
• Bendigo - 1951 (INFO)
• New Zealand Team
• Prahran - 1925
• Camberwell - 1923
• Ballarat League Team - 1919
• North Melbourne/Essendon - 1921
• Coburg - 1924
• Public Service FC - 1925
• Trans Australian Airlines - played under 19s VFL in the 1940s, aka North Essendon

Theoreticals

• Melbourne team relocation to London
• If Fitzroy stayed as The Gorillas
• If South Melbourne didn't relocate
• If South Melbourne stayed as The Bloods
• If North Melbourne stayed as The Shinboners
• If St Kilda stayed as The Seagulls
• NEW ADDITION: If St Kilda kept their WW1 kit colours

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The Camberwell Cobras would have been the only club in the VFL in 1923 that wore royal blue, as Footscray and North Melbourne entered in 1925, so the colour would be all theirs when entering. The problem of the CFC on the chest could be solved with it only appearing on a white background in red, different to Carlton's dark navy blue background in white.
The Camberwell Sports Ground would have seen some more stands built around it, becoming more like the Punt Road Oval. However, it would be held back by Camberwell being in a "dry" area, so they would be forced to move their games to the MCG, probably becoming the second club at the ground before Richmond did.
The three jumpers are the current home jumper, the current clash jumper and the heritage jumper. The heritage jumper was worn by the club until recently. When sportswear companies made club jumpers the club allowed the sportswear companies to alter the jumper to fit the designs of the company. With the club being so helpful with their jumper designs, the Cobras have no financial problems because of sponsorship.

 

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logo not by me but you could probably figure that out.

 

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The Cobras were admitted into the VFL knowing their white panel would be widened, their monogram enlarged and their all blue back would be an all red back to help differentiate them from the rest of the league and prevent clashes

 

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THE SCENARIO - The Cobra's finally entered the VFL in 1923, though only after some substantial concessions to both Carlton and St.Kilda, who to the ire of Cobra fans decided to raise awareness of the similarity of Camberwell's VFA guernsey style to that of St.Kilda and the similar look of the club monogram, which Carlton felt aggrieved by. Thus causing some intense passions and rivalries between the clubs before a ball was even kicked.

As difficult as the decision to change the guernsey design was, the club was adamant that changes would be made, as not to miss out on the valuable carrot of a place in the VFL. Designs were commissioned by fans and school-children alike and put to a vote, the winner was a double yoke design replacing the tricolors, clean, simple and for the time, a unique colour palette.