Poll "What If" Wednesdays: Week 44 - Fitzroy Gorillas

[cannavo]

Let's keep the ball rolling with a head-to-head

[Time] ago we asked
​

Poll will run for 3 days

Winner picks next team from this list and gets their name on the honour roll​

As for teams with more than 1 nickname next to them,
The team will still be used until all nicknames have been done​

​

eg. If you choose Gold Coast, it must be followed by one of the available nicknames.​

​

No Show Rule: If the winner of the next poll does not respond with a team 3 days after being tagged​

3 random teams will be polled to the public to be next​

List of teams​

Now with links to past polls!
​

Former

• University
• Brisbane Bears
• Fitzroy Lions

Mergers

• Melbourne Hawks (Melbourne Demons and Hawthorn Hawks merger)
• Melbourne Lions (Melbourne Demons and Fitzroy Lions merger)
• Fitzroy Bulldogs (Fitzroy Lions and Footscray Bulldogs merger)
• Norwood - Sturt merger for AFL spot
• North Melbourne relocation to the Gold Coast
• North Fitzroy Kangaroos (North Melbourne Kangaroos and Fitzroy Lions merger)
• Glenelg - South Adelaide merger for AFL spot
• Sydney - Brisbane Bears Merger (1992)
• The Cartel (Players from Central Dist, North Adel, West Adel, Woodville-West Torrens picked from their respective sides to play AFL Football)- More Info
• Carlton - St Kilda merger
• Sydney - North Melbourne Merger (INFO)
• Fremantle Sharks (East Fremantle and South Fremantle merger)
• Dandenong - Fitzroy Merger (INFO)
• Fitzroy - St Kilda Merger (INFO)
• North Melbourne - Melbourne Merger (INFO)

Proposed

• Sydney Celtics
• Tasmanian Team
• ACT Team
• Southport Sharks to the AFL - 1996
• Melbourne team relocation to Los Angeles (INFO)
• Norwood to takeover Adelaide Crows - 1995
• NEW ADDITION: Northern Territory Team (INFO)
• Norwood to the AFL - 1994
• Fitzroy moving to Brisbane OR Gold Coast - 1986
• St Kilda relocation to Perth (INFO)
• Sydney Lions (Fitzroy Lions relocation to Sydney) - 1981 (INFO)
• Footscray relocation to Queensland - 1981 (INFO)
• Fitzroy relocation to Canberra - 1996
• Fremantle
  • Hammers
  • Mariners
  • Union
  • Courage
  • Dolphins
  • Stokers
• Greater Western Sydney
  • Wolves
  • Pride
  • Stallions
• Adelaide
  • Falcons
  • Sharks
  • Arrows
  • Lakers
  • Rams
  • Dolphins
• Port Adelaide
  • Raiders
  • Pirates
  • Mariners
  • Sharks
  • NEW ADDITION: Magpies
• Gold Coast
  • Stingrays
  • Ironmen
  • Marlins
  • Lifesavers
• Brisbane
  • Rockets
  • Breakers

VFL Expansion
Click Here for details on the teams listed

• Brunswick - 1925
• City FC (North Melbourne - West Melbourne Merger) - 1908
• Port Melbourne - 1925
• Brighton Penguins - 1907 & 1925
• East Perth - 1980
• Bendigo - 1951 (INFO)
• New Zealand Team
• Prahran - 1925
• Camberwell - 1923
• Ballarat League Team - 1919
• North Melbourne/Essendon - 1921
• Coburg - 1924
• Public Service FC - 1925
• Trans Australian Airlines - played under 19s VFL in the 1940s, aka North Essendon

Theoreticals

• Melbourne team relocation to London
• If Fitzroy stayed as The Gorillas
• If South Melbourne didn't relocate
• If South Melbourne stayed as The Bloods
• If North Melbourne stayed as The Shinboners
• If St Kilda stayed as The Seagulls
• NEW ADDITION: If St Kilda kept their WW1 kit colours
• NEW ADDITION: If North Melbourne relocated to Tasmania
• NEW ADDITION: If St Kilda relocated to New Zealand
  
• NEW ADDITION: If Western Bulldogs relocated to Ballarat
• NEW ADDITION: If Port Adelaide relocated to the NT as Central Australia Power

Entry 1 SparkleNarkle

Entry 2 el Tel

 

[el Tel]

Jeez low turnout for this one? no love for the Roys? or has it been a bit overdone with previous comps?

 

[Freight Train]

Looking forward to seeing el Tel enter into the league competitions - that away/clash is insane!

 

[fancyscum]

has it been a bit overdone with previous comps?

yeah, feel like I've done a fair few fitzroy designs for this comp. Also, I couldn't really put together anything that I had any confidence in beating yours.

 

[caloschwaby]

Jeez low turnout for this one? no love for the Roys? or has it been a bit overdone with previous comps?

Yeah I second what Fancyscum said.
Once I see somebody's great design I usually can't muster the inspiration to make my own. I only wanted to win 1 WiW and when I did that I sort of lost the motivation?
Depends on what's next week

 

[el Tel]

yeah, feel like I've done a fair few fitzroy designs for this comp. Also, I couldn't really put together anything that I had any confidence in beating yours.

Yeah I second what Fancyscum said.
Once I see somebody's great design I usually can't muster the inspiration to make my own. I only wanted to win 1 WiW and when I did that I sort of lost the motivation?
Depends on what's next week

True I hear what you're saying, after having a look thru the comps the roys have been done a fair bit, cheers for the compliments, I don't want to stop anyone from putting designs in though lol, tbh i thought mine were a bit tame considering what's possible with the gorillas I guess, but you never know what people like sometimes...

 

[Sparkle]

I'm just going to throw in my two cents about WIW, please remember this is how I feel, it doesn't reflect everyones view

Some of the proposed designs are quite boring and definitely do not seem likely to encourage and engage people in the competition. All of the 'VFL Expansion' and some of the 'Proposed' designs fit this category.

The competitions have been running since September 2014, so maybe the seasoned designers of the board are becoming bored of the competitions. This would explain why CEOTTK has had so much interest - because it's new and exciting. At this rate, WIW will be going until about June 2022 - nearly eight years since the first competition was held, which at the moment seems light years away

Maybe capping the number of competitions to be held in the future (keep going to Week 50, for example), or culling the list to the most desirable 7-10 designs would be beneficial, so interest will be spruiked given people know it is winding up, and then there is plenty of time to lay the foundations for a replacement competition

As a newcomer, it probably sounds like I'm just trying to come in and flip the place upside down, but that's not the case. This is just my observation and my ideas

 

[cannavo]

I'm just going to throw in my two cents about WIW, please remember this is how I feel, it doesn't reflect everyones view

Some of the proposed designs are quite boring and definitely do not seem likely to encourage and engage people in the competition. All of the 'VFL Expansion' and some of the 'Proposed' designs fit this category.

The competitions have been running since September 2014, so maybe the seasoned designers of the board are becoming bored of the competitions. This would explain why CEOTTK has had so much interest - because it's new and exciting. At this rate, WIW will be going until about June 2022 - nearly eight years since the first competition was held, which at the moment seems light years away

Maybe capping the number of competitions to be held in the future (keep going to Week 50, for example), or culling the list to the most desirable 7-10 designs would be beneficial, so interest will be spruiked given people know it is winding up, and then there is plenty of time to lay the foundations for a replacement competition

As a newcomer, it probably sounds like I'm just trying to come in and flip the place upside down, but that's not the case. This is just my observation and my ideas

100% See where you're coming from, the list is comprised of real life proposals which fizzled out, never went through or popped up in news articles. This competition gives life to them hence "What If" and thanks to the FJGD commnunity, they've dug up more What Ifs which never saw the light though now it's at a point where there's too many or some require little to no creativity which seems deterring (Point proven with this weeks What If)

There will be some patches where only 2-3 will enter and others which rake in over 10, perhaps it's down to what can be designed, what creativity is available, how appealing the team sounds or how known a proposal is eg. Melbourne Hawks, Tasmania team, Brisbane Bears all got 10+ entries.
In hindsight, theoreticals will culled of its dead weight and VFL Expansion will remain for its authenticity. I might remove more unappealing ones later

And with that out the way
Back to back for el Tel !
Who's next?

 

[The_torpedo]

Yeah I'd cut theoreticals (barring the South Melbourne staying one)

 

[fancyscum]

Yeah I'd cut theoreticals (barring the South Melbourne staying one)

Nah, even that one is pretty limited, either a v, sash or hoops. The Theoreticals that I would keep are the ones marked as 'New addition' except for the the St Kilda WWI colours which is going to ofer up just yellow in a tri panel and a HCB jumper.

 

[Sparkle]

Yeah I'd cut theoreticals (barring the South Melbourne staying one)

Nah, even that one is pretty limited, either a v, sash or hoops. The Theoreticals that I would keep are the ones marked as 'New addition' except for the the St Kilda WWI colours which is going to ofer up just yellow in a tri panel and a HCB jumper.

From the list of entries to be done, I would cull the following:

Mergers

• Fitzroy-St Kilda Merger
• North Melbourne-Melbourne Merger
• Norwood to the AFL
• Fitzroy to Queensland
• St Kilda to Perth
• Sydney Lions
• Footscray to Queensland
• Fitzroy to Canberra

Fremantle

• Union
• Courage
• Stokers

GWS

• Pride

Gold Coast

• Marlins

Brisbane

• Breakers

Theoreticals

• Ballarat League Team
• North Melbourne/Essendon
• Coburg
• Public Service FC
• Trans Australian Airlines
• If South didn't relocate
• If South stayed as the Bloods
• If North stayed as the Shinboners
• If St Kilda stayed as the Seagulls
• If St Kilda kept their WWI colours
• If the Bulldogs went to Ballarat
• If Port went to Central Australia

That leaves 11 designs to be completed, which are the best ones and are the most likely to grow numbers. Also, it sets a realistic finishing date, which would be around April-May 2019, rather than June 2022 which would be the finishing date if all the designs listed are completed

 

[Fizzler]

I don’t think I’d be able to see this one go
But I see where you’re coming from. As such, I vow to compete in every upcoming WIW week (Lets see how that lasts.

While we’re here el Tel i love your template, but my only gripe is how the shadow interacts with the colours on your template. I’m assuming you use Photoshop, yes? If so, what blending mode have you got the shading on? I recommend multiply personally

 

[Sparkle]

I don’t think I’d be able to see this one go
But I see where you’re coming from. As such, I vow to compete in every upcoming WIW week (Lets see how that lasts.

While we’re here el Tel i love your template, but my only gripe is how the shadow interacts with the colours on your template. I’m assuming you use Photoshop, yes? If so, what blending mode have you got the shading on? I recommend multiply personally

Good to see you committing to WIW (maybe...). It's sad to see the comp dwindle down like this, but unfortunately, all good things must come to an end. Hopefully it can spark back up and keep going, if not, hopefully it wraps up on a high note

However, I agree with your view on el Tel's template. el Tel - the template is very realistic and looks great, but this part takes away from quality of the designs



To help round out a fantastic template and to showcase the centre of the jumper, not the right side, I'd buff it out similar to the left side of the jumper. That way, it maintains its realistic look while not impacting the colours or focal point of the design

 

[Freight Train]

I don’t think I’d be able to see this one go
But I see where you’re coming from. As such, I vow to compete in every upcoming WIW week (Lets see how that lasts.

While we’re here el Tel i love your template, but my only gripe is how the shadow interacts with the colours on your template. I’m assuming you use Photoshop, yes? If so, what blending mode have you got the shading on? I recommend multiply personally

Good to see you committing to WIW (maybe...). It's sad to see the comp dwindle down like this, but unfortunately, all good things must come to an end. Hopefully it can spark back up and keep going, if not, hopefully it wraps up on a high note

However, I agree with your view on el Tel's template. el Tel - the template is very realistic and looks great, but this part takes away from quality of the designs

View attachment 583557

To help round out a fantastic template and to showcase the centre of the jumper, not the right side, I'd buff it out similar to the left side of the jumper. That way, it maintains its realistic look while not impacting the colours or focal point of the design

Looks like he's already resolved it. That "burn" on the yellow isn't present on the gorilla head version which I'd assume was designed after the traditional one.

 

[cannavo]

Last call for el Tel
3 random teams to be polled tomorrow if no response is made

 

[el Tel]

Hey guys, so sorry for the delay, been a bit busy. Lets do - If Port Adelaide relocated to the NT as Central Australia Power

About my template, thanks for your thoughts, tbh it's the first AFL template I've made, and I understand where you're coming from in terms of the right side, mainly chose it for the 'realism aesthetic' but I see where it detracts from the presentation of the guernsey design so I'm going to play around with some more textures to make it a bit nicer. Admittedly I'm actually a Gimp user and use a variety of blend modes depending on the situation, any other gimp people on here?