Analysis What if...?

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Put it out there
  1. Thetrader15

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    Sure, let's go with that excuse
     

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  2. Thetrader15

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    What if...
    The AFL rules were even for all teams

    No COLA
    Equality for TPPs
    Equality of father son rule
    No zones
    New clubs all had the same draft and player signing allowances

    Sydney would not have Franklin
    Crows would have Gibbs
    Swans would not have Tippett
    Crows would have Vince
    GWS and GC would have shite teams
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  3. Elite Crow

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    It's the VFL, what did you expect?
     
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    what if brouch could stay on the park?
     
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    ...he'd be playing at another team
     
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  6. Thetrader15

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    'Policy' (or more so decisions) on the run
     
  7. Bring back Bas

    Bring back Bas All Australian

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    What do you mean by that?
     
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    Matt will be proven to be the better of the two brothers. Brad doing his hammy AGAIN shows the guy is just another Fitzy.


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    What if we tried harder and beat West Coast in Round 23 last year and finished in the top 4. I think we would have possibly had 3 premierships by now. So many years of disappointment. Then you also have 2005, 2006 and 2012. It is so hard to win in this league, you can play superb and then all it takes is to have one off game and then it becomes so hard because the team has lost it's self belief so easily at times over the years. 2017 is not going to be easy, it is a very even competition and this team (and others) needs to have total determination and belief when it matters the most. It is a race to the finish line for AFC, top 4 or bust.
     
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    correct although Vince may have shaded Matt C anyway. Vince was very good last year if you watched any Melb games uses the ball better than MC. But for the future Matt C will obviously be more valuable
     
  11. Maggsy

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    how did this work? Pavlich went for pick #4 ,.. refresh my memory how McGregor was involved?
     

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    Previous year when we were allowed to draft one 17 year old. Pav was on no-ones radar then though.
     
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    So pretty much, what if Wayne Jackson was still in charge of the AFL and Dimwit had never been involved. Our first father son shafting occured under him I admit, but I bet he would have sought team parity a lot sooner than Vlad.
     
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    Why woukd we have Gibbs if there was equality in F/S?

    F/S should be 100 games for that club or clubs, if the father played 100 games for two clubs. Not x amount of games for a collection of state league clubs that have no real connection with an AFL club.

    I like the fact our first F/S had a dad who played for our club, and club legend at that.

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    Easily the biggest what If in this thread , Pavlich may have created a couple of premierships, he was one of those players that just carried a team. There are other players which we missed out on aswell but the fact he was an SA boy it will be pointed too all the time and we had the choice of McGregor or Pavlich at the time as a 17 year old. Also on the FS I think both Chad and Kane should have been clearly eligable with their father playing in excess of 300 games for the bays so another huge what if
     
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    One was an underage AA playing league SANFL footy and just turned 17.
    The other was a kid barely playing u/18s state league who got big the next year.



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    Doesnt change the fact it was a enormous WHAT IF
     
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    Doesn't change the fact ut was never going to happen though. Much more disappointment in a 50-50 what if.
     
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    So no f/s rule for anyone pre 2013
     
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    what if we grew a pair, dropped injured players and backed a kid to have a crack?
     
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    I see what you mean. Unfortunately we joined their league and their records (pre 1990) are what count.

    The biggest F/S travesty is how Jono Brown got to the Brisbane Lions.

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    We did the same thing with James Sellar.

    He was a big boy playing a key position in Glenelg seniors at 16.

    Could not translate that to AFL. He should have stuck with Volleyball.

    This is the reason I am loathe to use first round picks on key forwards and ruckman.

    Key defenders are a bit different. I reckon a kid who plays FB or CHB has a different mindset and abilities compared to a big kid who can merely ruck or outmark and kick goals among kids he is physically bigger than



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    Here's an idea - remove the f/s altogether! Happy days
     
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    Just in time for Jackson Edwards....

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    We did pretty well out of those drafts getting Atkins and M. Crouch. Even if we took 4 picks and came out with M. Crouch and Atkins and 2 delistings you wouldn't be too dissatisfied with those results, without looking I'm sure some clubs who took 4 picks in those years did worse.

    It's likely without the sanctions in 2012 we would have swapped Atkins for Tim Obrien. 2012 was a pretty weak draft, we did well to get Atkins out of it. 2013 we can't have done much better than M. Crouch with our first pick, people say we would have taken Cripps, but that's just dreaming with hindsight, we probably just wouldn't have had to lose Vince to get M. Crouch and used a higher pick to take him. We were never getting a top 10 pick out of Sydney for Tippett, best case scenario would probably have been getting Polec from Brisbane or Sam Day from GC.