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[DrVanNostrand]

What is life?

Not to be taken seriously.

 

[Piss Poor]

Iife is like box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get.

not really because I do know what I'm gonna get- I choose what I want you dumb ass Forrest Gump.

 

[courtjester]

Life (for humans) is essentially a series of choices. One after the other.

The fact that we have the capacity to make choices fascinates me no end.

I used to be a fundamentalist conservative evangelical Christian who believed fully in the doctrine of free will (opposed to pre-destination), but now I'd be better described as an agnostic with a strong suspicion there is a "God", and a keen interest in the teaching and philosophy of Jesus. I'd still identify as a Christian in a survey, but my interpretation of that title might be differernt to the way others would interpret it.

The simple fact that we (humans) have choices strongly influences my suspicions that there is more to life than there seems to be. Nowadays however, that's as far in to the periphary I extend, because there's so much bullshit spoken by people out there.

 

[The Passenger]

it's something that happens between being born and dying. imo just do what makes you happy. unless its breaking the law or hurting someone etc etc

don't not do something because the laws to say's not to do it though. do something because your inner ethic says it's not the right thing.

often they go together, but not always.

 

[Silent Alarm]

This is such a 1:15am thread.

 

[Silent Alarm]

But really, life isn't really anything. It's futile. There's no point. You die and you're rendered irrelevant, unless you're 0.00001% of people born. I don't find that depressing at all – it helps me worry less and enjoy more. Coming to terms with my own mortality has made me way more hedonistic. Which is good. For now.

The main thing I worry about now is just 'who I am' and what I'm supposed to be. But that's pretty a-typical of young adulthood, I think.

Basically. I used to be obsessed with living and dying and ageing. Then I just got over it. Thinking about it doesn't bring up anything new and I'm just happy with how things are going. I'm glad to be living now.

 

[The Passenger]

^^^

We live, we ****, we die yeah?

Sounds allright to me anyway

 

[JuddsABlue]

Imagine a never ending chess board all with blank squares

Now imagine this chess board has a code written in it that dictates what boxes light up, for how long they light up, and when they turn off (think of Michael Jackson in Billie Jean lighting up the footpath). An example would be any box with a box to its direct left litten up, will light up for 5 seconds, but turn off when the box directly above it is light. Once you punch in a few random rules and press "go", the boxes will light up and flash and burn in all different directions, forever.

From the outside it will look like these boxes are doing whatever they want, just lighting up here and there. But you know better, its not their choice when to light up, theres a random set of rules that dictate when to light up.

This is your brain and your entire existance. Every choice you think you made, you didnt. Your pre-determined set of rules made by the chemical balances in your head have been the deciding factor of every thing in your life. Whether you like cheese or dont like cheese, if you like horror movies or comedies, whether you like to fight or like to avoid them, whether you write with your right hand or your left hand. Whether you think you choose to have orange juice in the morning over apple juice. Its all a random act of electric events in your brain that you have no control over. You think you want chicken tonight for dinner but its too late, you're brain already knows what it wants and what it will have, its known since the day of its creation, it just never told you.

You are here to exist and breed, like every other animal on the planet. There is no greater purpose. We are just here for now, and one day wont be. Like all the stars and planets and dust and life, there is really no reason we are here, its just completely random.

 

[Stratton_Gun]

don't not do something because the laws to say's not to do it though. do something because your inner ethic says it's not the right thing.

often they go together, but not always.

yeh true.i jay walk all the time. however this methodology may not be well applied for criminals and such...

 

[The Passenger]

Imagine a never ending chess board all with blank squares

like these one's (but only blank)?

 

[JuddsABlue]

BIGGER

 

[The Passenger]

really just wanted to post that pic

 

[treefingers]

Imagine if there was no life. Then what?

 

[Silent Alarm]

Imagine if there was no life. Then what?

Perennial nothing.

You get the same experience supporting Richmond.

 

[The Speaker]

Life (for humans) is essentially a series of choices. One after the other.

The fact that we have the capacity to make choices fascinates me no end.

I used to be a fundamentalist conservative evangelical Christian who believed fully in the doctrine of free will (opposed to pre-destination), but now I'd be better described as an agnostic with a strong suspicion there is a "God", and a keen interest in the teaching and philosophy of Jesus. I'd still identify as a Christian in a survey, but my interpretation of that title might be differernt to the way others would interpret it.

The simple fact that we (humans) have choices strongly influences my suspicions that there is more to life than there seems to be. Nowadays however, that's as far in to the periphary I extend, because there's so much bullshit spoken by people out there.

Predestination does not prevent free will.

 

[courtjester]

Predestination does not prevent free will.

Yes it does. Hyper Calvinism certainly does. Depends on your definition of "predestination".

 

[courtjester]

Perennial nothing.

You get the same experience supporting Richmond.

There's still a couple of clubs that haven't won a premiership. Mostly new-ish clubs. They that haven't managed it yet in spite of ridiculous support from the AFL. Remind me, who are they?

 

[The Speaker]

Yes it does. Hyper Calvinism certainly does. Depends on your definition of "predestination".

Why deal with Hyper Calvinism and not orthodox Calvinism?

The definition in question is not predestination, but free will. You would be right to suggest that predestination and absolute free will are at odds. But Calvinists support compatibilistic free will.

 

[mantis]

Life's a piece of shit, when you think of it.

 

[Jackfrost]

To reproduce
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[courtjester]

Why deal with Hyper Calvinism and not orthodox Calvinism?

The definition in question is not predestination, but free will. You would be right to suggest that predestination and absolute free will are at odds. But Calvinists support compatibilistic free will.

This is the sort of stuff that completely turned me off studying theology. No offense, but I just don't care any more. As far as I'm concerned, whether there's a God or not, humans have full capacity to make choices about every situation they find themselves in.

 

[Caesar]

This is your brain and your entire existance. Every choice you think you made, you didnt. Your pre-determined set of rules made by the chemical balances in your head have been the deciding factor of every thing in your life. Whether you like cheese or dont like cheese, if you like horror movies or comedies, whether you like to fight or like to avoid them, whether you write with your right hand or your left hand. Whether you think you choose to have orange juice in the morning over apple juice. Its all a random act of electric events in your brain that you have no control over. You think you want chicken tonight for dinner but its too late, you're brain already knows what it wants and what it will have, its known since the day of its creation, it just never told you.

That's hardly proven. It's just one theory amongst neuroscientists, and on the more extreme end of the spectrum.

You are here to exist and breed, like every other animal on the planet. There is no greater purpose. We are just here for now, and one day wont be. Like all the stars and planets and dust and life, there is really no reason we are here, its just completely random.

That's a rather constrained view of 'purpose'.

 

[Coolangatta]

 

[Silent Alarm]

Life's a piece of shit, when you think of it.

Aside from living, there isn't much else to do!

 

[The Speaker]

This is the sort of stuff that completely turned me off studying theology. No offense, but I just don't care any more. As far as I'm concerned, whether there's a God or not, humans have full capacity to make choices about every situation they find themselves in.

And I'm not disagreeing with you. That's the point of compatibilism - there is simultaneouly free will, as humans are not coerced to make a decision against what they want to choose, and the sovereignty of God, as God has determined that a person would be willing to make that particular choice.