Catters 070911
Club Legend
- Oct 13, 2017
- 2,270
- 2,101
- AFL Club
- Geelong
- Banned
- #1
I constantly all the time people complaining about AFL players being paid so much.
Some facts:-
1) Being an AFL footballer is a profession- This is actually their job. For those who say that they should get in the "real world and get a real job" this is their real job.
VFL players once used to be "part-time" and worked other jobs, but that changed for two reasons:-
1) Other sports were becoming "full-time" professional, so footy followed suit.
2) The clubs require it- I remember reading that Allan Jeans was the first to suggest AFL players being full-time when the Hawthorn players quit their jobs and became full-time. This allowed them extra time to train, and get ahead of all other clubs. The Hawks won the flag that year, so then other coaches also followed suit.
So if the AFL clubs require their players to be at the club at their beckon call, then the players need to be paid more for that, since they now can't hold down another full-time job, so that they have to go to 6am recovery session, 5.30am training or an 11am tactical meeting, or any of the other bullshit meetings AFL clubs hold.
2) Being an AFL player is an "honest" living- They aren't committing a crime. They are legally making their money, so what is the problem?
Other professions have highly paid professionals too. Doctors get paid a lot. So do lawyers, CEOs, and even other entertainers, like musicians and actors. How come people don't seem to have any problem with them making a mint, yet frown on AFL footballers making money?
People here bagged players for wanting a cut of the AFL TV rights deal, and many of you said that they get paid too much now. Yet a lot of you think ambos should be paid more, and didn't criticize the ambulance union spokesperson when they suggested "go-slows" or keeping patients waiting, (thus putting lives at risk), unless they got a payrise? Yet the players threaten to go on strike, unless they get a slice of a TV deal which they are an instrumental part of, and you all bag them for it.
Also, the bullshit of them having to be a "good role model" because they are paid so much. SO WHAT? An AFL player is paid to perform on the field. If he doesn't try his hardest, or play his best game, you as a supporter, as a member, have the right to question whether they have earned your money or not.
But what they do off the field is none of your business. Your boss doesn't have a right to monitor your actions 24/7 (I believe that, unless your off-the-clock behaviour affects your ability to perform the job your boss is paying you for, then it is none of his business otherwise). Why should a player's behaviour be determined on their pay packet? Does that mean that a first year player getting a rookie wage doesn't have to behave himself as well as a highly-paid player?
Also, how come being a "role model" isn't a requirement for other professions? Who scruitinises doctors, and holds them to account (considering that I have never read about malpractice suits in the media, then it seems like no doctor ever does anything worth questioning)? Doctors' decision determine lives, so they need to be held to a higher standard than AFL players, and so should get MORE criticism and press when they stuff up than an AFL footballer does.
What about CEOs? Are they "good role models"? They sack 2,000 workers, than get paid millions while making lots of people jobless. Is that to be commended? Yet the media don't seem to condemn CEOs of companies who do this.
Also, other entertainers, such as rock musicians and actors, also get paid a lot, simply to entertain, yet aren't expected to be "role models". Musicians have a reputation for "sleeping around with multiple women, using drugs, getting drunk, smashing property" yet people don't hold them to account for it, all because they can sing a song or play an instrument. Yet if an AFL footballer did the same thing, they would be criticised by people who don't have a problem with the Rolling Stones" hedonistic lifestyle.
AFL players cop it for their treatment of women, yet the same feminazis say nothing about a rap artist having scantily clad women gyrating sexually in a music video.
Actors and actresses promote violence and sex all the time, when they shoot someone on screen or strip off and do a sex scene. Yet their values aren't questioned according to the money they are paid for roles.
Finally, what about journos? Tell me that Caro, Robbo, Ralphie, Whateley and the numerous ex-footballers who are in the media don't make a handsome buck writing articles and being on TV and radio shows. They get paid a lot for simply stating an opinion (which doesn't require any talent), yet hypocritically bag players and complain that they are paid too much (for something that actually requires talent).
AFL players also don't get endorsement deals, or image and rights deals, like other sportspeople do.
Maybe the problem is really (a) the AFL is the most successful sport in town, and it is a big poppy, and (b) a lot of the whingers are untalented, jealous, insecure losers who can't understand why someone gets paid more for doing something that looks like fun, while you slave away in your s**t job (maybe lack of football talent has something to do with it).
Also, if you complain about what they are paid, and yet go to the footy, then you are a hypocrite. Why? Because YOU are paying money at the gate, or buying a membership, which filters back partly to player wages. So, you are part of the problem.
So, either get off your high horse, and get over your insecurity of what players are paid, and either hold them to account for their efforts and performances during a game, and nowhere else, or stop going to the footy, stop buying memberships or merchandise, stop paying for Foxtel to get Fox Footy, and stop buying from companies who advertise during the footy. That way, you are not paying ONE CENT towards the game or player wages. Then, and only then, do you have a right to criticise player wages.
Some facts:-
1) Being an AFL footballer is a profession- This is actually their job. For those who say that they should get in the "real world and get a real job" this is their real job.
VFL players once used to be "part-time" and worked other jobs, but that changed for two reasons:-
1) Other sports were becoming "full-time" professional, so footy followed suit.
2) The clubs require it- I remember reading that Allan Jeans was the first to suggest AFL players being full-time when the Hawthorn players quit their jobs and became full-time. This allowed them extra time to train, and get ahead of all other clubs. The Hawks won the flag that year, so then other coaches also followed suit.
So if the AFL clubs require their players to be at the club at their beckon call, then the players need to be paid more for that, since they now can't hold down another full-time job, so that they have to go to 6am recovery session, 5.30am training or an 11am tactical meeting, or any of the other bullshit meetings AFL clubs hold.
2) Being an AFL player is an "honest" living- They aren't committing a crime. They are legally making their money, so what is the problem?
Other professions have highly paid professionals too. Doctors get paid a lot. So do lawyers, CEOs, and even other entertainers, like musicians and actors. How come people don't seem to have any problem with them making a mint, yet frown on AFL footballers making money?
People here bagged players for wanting a cut of the AFL TV rights deal, and many of you said that they get paid too much now. Yet a lot of you think ambos should be paid more, and didn't criticize the ambulance union spokesperson when they suggested "go-slows" or keeping patients waiting, (thus putting lives at risk), unless they got a payrise? Yet the players threaten to go on strike, unless they get a slice of a TV deal which they are an instrumental part of, and you all bag them for it.
Also, the bullshit of them having to be a "good role model" because they are paid so much. SO WHAT? An AFL player is paid to perform on the field. If he doesn't try his hardest, or play his best game, you as a supporter, as a member, have the right to question whether they have earned your money or not.
But what they do off the field is none of your business. Your boss doesn't have a right to monitor your actions 24/7 (I believe that, unless your off-the-clock behaviour affects your ability to perform the job your boss is paying you for, then it is none of his business otherwise). Why should a player's behaviour be determined on their pay packet? Does that mean that a first year player getting a rookie wage doesn't have to behave himself as well as a highly-paid player?
Also, how come being a "role model" isn't a requirement for other professions? Who scruitinises doctors, and holds them to account (considering that I have never read about malpractice suits in the media, then it seems like no doctor ever does anything worth questioning)? Doctors' decision determine lives, so they need to be held to a higher standard than AFL players, and so should get MORE criticism and press when they stuff up than an AFL footballer does.
What about CEOs? Are they "good role models"? They sack 2,000 workers, than get paid millions while making lots of people jobless. Is that to be commended? Yet the media don't seem to condemn CEOs of companies who do this.
Also, other entertainers, such as rock musicians and actors, also get paid a lot, simply to entertain, yet aren't expected to be "role models". Musicians have a reputation for "sleeping around with multiple women, using drugs, getting drunk, smashing property" yet people don't hold them to account for it, all because they can sing a song or play an instrument. Yet if an AFL footballer did the same thing, they would be criticised by people who don't have a problem with the Rolling Stones" hedonistic lifestyle.
AFL players cop it for their treatment of women, yet the same feminazis say nothing about a rap artist having scantily clad women gyrating sexually in a music video.
Actors and actresses promote violence and sex all the time, when they shoot someone on screen or strip off and do a sex scene. Yet their values aren't questioned according to the money they are paid for roles.
Finally, what about journos? Tell me that Caro, Robbo, Ralphie, Whateley and the numerous ex-footballers who are in the media don't make a handsome buck writing articles and being on TV and radio shows. They get paid a lot for simply stating an opinion (which doesn't require any talent), yet hypocritically bag players and complain that they are paid too much (for something that actually requires talent).
AFL players also don't get endorsement deals, or image and rights deals, like other sportspeople do.
Maybe the problem is really (a) the AFL is the most successful sport in town, and it is a big poppy, and (b) a lot of the whingers are untalented, jealous, insecure losers who can't understand why someone gets paid more for doing something that looks like fun, while you slave away in your s**t job (maybe lack of football talent has something to do with it).
Also, if you complain about what they are paid, and yet go to the footy, then you are a hypocrite. Why? Because YOU are paying money at the gate, or buying a membership, which filters back partly to player wages. So, you are part of the problem.
So, either get off your high horse, and get over your insecurity of what players are paid, and either hold them to account for their efforts and performances during a game, and nowhere else, or stop going to the footy, stop buying memberships or merchandise, stop paying for Foxtel to get Fox Footy, and stop buying from companies who advertise during the footy. That way, you are not paying ONE CENT towards the game or player wages. Then, and only then, do you have a right to criticise player wages.
