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What might have happened if Robert Rose (RIP) wasn't injured in a car accident in 1974.
He was a talented footy player and cricketer.
He was a talented footy player and cricketer.
What might have been?
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Amol Muzumdar another player which deserves a mention here. Would have & should have been a stalwart of that 90's Indian team, whilst a vast number of batsmen far worse than him managed to sneak in a few Tests at least.
Yeah, Jimmy Maher in particular wasn't really good enough at FC level - was better in OD's from memory.
Didn't Dave Hussey have issues against the short ball?
Yep, he also had trouble against the short ball.
That's why he never cemented an ODI place despite being recalled a million times.
Most of the best names are already here.
My own:
Matthew Elliott: What if he didn't collide into Mark Waugh and injure his knee? Would he have been fitter and more sure of himself mentally (many of his psychological struggles were due to the knee injury and its ongoing effects)? What effect would that have had on his career? Would he have been able to live up to his considerable talents?
Damien Martyn: What if he scored a 4 to win that Test against SA in 1993/94 instead of hitting a ball straight to Jonty Rhodes, and enjoyed a regular run in the AUS side as a result? Would he have retained the brash, cocksure personality of his youth? Would he have been laid low at some later point, potentially never returning to the side? One can only speculate.
Andrew Symonds: What if he didn't go off the rails post-Monkeygate? Granted he was in his early 30's by then, but he could have been more than useful at #6 for a few more seasons.
Shaun Tait: What if he'd been picked ASAP (circa 2004), before his mind and body went? I never really rated him for a long Test career for various reasons, not least due to his action, but he could easily have taken 100+ Test wickets at a very respectable average if he was selected sooner. McGrath/Gillespie holding up one end, while Tait was given license to let rip at the other, would have been a frightening prospect for opposition batsmen.
Phil Hughes: RIP.
Graeme Hick/Mark Ramprakash: Both were psychologically flawed (and flawed against the short ball in Hick's case), but neither were managed very well either (unsympathetic coaches, often lacking a stable place in the side), and clearly they should have achieved far more than they did.
My own:
Matthew Elliott: What if he didn't collide into Mark Waugh and injure his knee? Would he have been fitter and more sure of himself mentally (many of his psychological struggles were due to the knee injury and its ongoing effects)? What effect would that have had on his career? Would he have been able to live up to his considerable talents?
Damien Martyn: What if he scored a 4 to win that Test against SA in 1993/94 instead of hitting a ball straight to Jonty Rhodes, and enjoyed a regular run in the AUS side as a result? Would he have retained the brash, cocksure personality of his youth? Would he have been laid low at some later point, potentially never returning to the side? One can only speculate.
Andrew Symonds: What if he didn't go off the rails post-Monkeygate? Granted he was in his early 30's by then, but he could have been more than useful at #6 for a few more seasons.
Shaun Tait: What if he'd been picked ASAP (circa 2004), before his mind and body went? I never really rated him for a long Test career for various reasons, not least due to his action, but he could easily have taken 100+ Test wickets at a very respectable average if he was selected sooner. McGrath/Gillespie holding up one end, while Tait was given license to let rip at the other, would have been a frightening prospect for opposition batsmen.
Phil Hughes: RIP.
Graeme Hick/Mark Ramprakash: Both were psychologically flawed (and flawed against the short ball in Hick's case), but neither were managed very well either (unsympathetic coaches, often lacking a stable place in the side), and clearly they should have achieved far more than they did.
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Jamie Siddons. Ludicrous that he never got a single test.
EDIT: Just saw Doss' post.
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Maher was a bit of a warrior, but I think he would have struggled in test cricket. Similar bat to Hayden in that he was a bit of a bludgeoner with not much footwork or finesse, but he wasn't near as good as Hayden.
Hussey was pretty unlucky not have gotten a crack. He had a couple of weaknesses that didn't get exposed at shield level, such as yes he wasn't great with short ball and liked to have a bit of a nibble outside the off stump, particularly early in his innings - a bit like Joe Burns (better batsman than Burns though). Still, through weight of runs he was bloody unlucky not to get a shot. Only a few blokes, one of which is Maher, have scored more SS runs and not played test cricket. IIRC Hussey had a couple of dry(ish) patches in his career which seemed to coincide with spots becoming available, whilst when he was in red hot form, there weren't any middle order positions up for grabs.
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Example. 06/07 and 07/08 he averages over 50 both shield seasons (900 runs in 06/07, 1000 in 07/08) but no real spots to grab. Martyn retired in 06/07 but Clarke was always the next in line, and obviously Ponting and M Hussey have 3 and 4 sewn up. We were pretty dead set on an all rounder through this period after Flintoff in 05 so that was Symonds at 6 with Watson playing a few tests himself.
The next time a middle order spot became available was for the tour of South Africa at the end of 08/09 when we abandoned the all rounder, but at the time the team was selected D Hussey had just three half centuries from 7 matches @ 33. He beefed out his stats at the end of the season, including a century in the final, but the squad had already departed with North there. North himself hadn't had the greatest season, but a couple of centuries probably got him over the line. Never know if Hussey had been red lined due to the above flaws, but a third big season on the trot would have mad his case very hard to negate.
Darren Lehmann was 12th man for Australia at 19 years of age, continued to make 1000+ runs in Sheffield Shield seasons, didn't score a Test until he was 30. IMHO, should have played 100 Tests and been one of our great batsmen.
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MacGill if he was born 10 years later he would have gotten at least 400 wickets
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A bit like had Haydos been selected for the 1st test of the ashes in England in '93 ahead of debutant Slater.
Slater got the gig and played 40 odd tests in a row whereas Haydos played 1 only (when Taylor was injured).
Haydos may well have played another 50+ tests and cemented himself as our top or 2nd highest runscorer.
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Warnie missed 32 tests in his career for one reason or another. Could've jagged another 150+ wickets taking him past 850.
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Mike Haysman doesn't go to South Africa. It's hard to imagine given some of the players that got capped in the wake of that tour, it's difficult to see him not getting a Test at some point and the raw talent was undeniable, his best may have been good enough. A genuine who knows?
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