What needs to be done to remove Demetriou

[Kwality]

Demetriou has so far delivered on the things that matter to the Commission from a CEO perspective

• record revenue, including record sponsorship and media rights
• record memberships, including record AFL membership and record club memberships
• record ratings (on fox at least, seven continues to hold steady)
• record crowds (even if the average is down)
• what looks to be a successful Gold Coast expansion

Its arguable that he could have done better on the Tippett and Melbourne issues, but the legalities of the situation meant that he probably couldnt have done any better. For us to get "justice", Melbourne and Tippett would have had to lie down and take their punishment without going to court - like Carlton did in 2002. Sadly, because that didnt happen, no one really feels they got justice out of the negotiated outcome.


Yes we all hate the tampering with the rules, and something is wrong with the umpiring. The Fixture is never going to be even, which cant really be attributed to Demetriou and co, simply because its been that way since there were more teams than could be accommodated in a reasonable season length.

Perhaps the biggest thing Demetriou and Fitzpatrick should get credit for is not continuing the "merge or die Victorians" approach that Wayne Jackson and co had embarked on. Once it became clear that North would not go to the Gold Coast, the league hasnt brought up mergers or closures since, and remains committed to the current victorian team setup.

So 10 clubs is a a strength to some & a millstone to others like me - the FIX is at the heart of the biggest inequality in the game & too many teams in Melbourne are its engine room.

We institutionalize the financial subsidy to some clubs e.g Melbourne who believe they are entitled, because they are Melbourne. Pro Vic club types can see no harm ...

I for one believe there are too many teams in Melbourne, 17k approx. attendance at 2 of the games in Melbourne this weekend, is an indicator that all is not rosey.

 

[The_Wookie]

So 10 clubs is a a strength to some & a millstone to others like me - the FIX is at the heart of the biggest inequality in the game & too many teams in Melbourne are its engine room.

We institutionalize the financial subsidy to some clubs e.g Melbourne who believe they are entitled, because they are Melbourne. Pro Vic club types can see no harm ...

I for one believe there are too many teams in Melbourne, 17k approx. attendance at 2 of the games in Melbourne this weekend, is an indicator that all is not rosey.

then folks should have started their own comp instead of joining a victorian one or waiting until the vics got their own going.Its also been proven time and time again that there is no financial disadvantage so long as the large Melbourne clubs subsidise everyone, much like in the EPL where the large clubs elected to continue to roll their tv rights coverage in with the EPL rather than go their separate ways.

Growth doesn't come from getting rid of clubs. Supporters of clubs eliminated are in large parts lost to the game, and if you think its ok disenfranchise those folks, then so be it. The issue has not been the clubs, not since the begining of the mega tv deals, and the turn of the century.

The fixture remains at the heart of inequality. Spread the games around properly, and the smaller clubs will struggle less in the modern football environment. As long as special deals exist for Collingwood at the MCG, while North and the Bulldogs get next to 0 FTA coverage and crap timeslots (hindering exposure, and thus corporate support), while playing interstate teams with minimal Melbourne support and almost no mutual interest from others (limiting gate reciepts and memberships), at a stadium with the worst returns in the league then the situation perpetuates itself.

 

[The_Wookie]

If Hird confirms that Andrew Demetriou did indeed tip off Essendon Vlad is GGGGOOOOONNNNNEEEEEE !!!!!!

yeah, not when the ACC says there was no wrong doing.

 

[Kwality]

then folks should have started their own comp instead of joining a victorian one or waiting until the vics got their own going.Its also been proven time and time again that there is no financial disadvantage so long as the large Melbourne clubs subsidise everyone, much like in the EPL where the large clubs elected to continue to roll their tv rights coverage in with the EPL rather than go their separate ways.

Growth doesn't come from getting rid of clubs. Supporters of clubs eliminated are in large parts lost to the game, and if you think its ok disenfranchise those folks, then so be it. The issue has not been the clubs, not since the begining of the mega tv deals, and the turn of the century.

The fixture remains at the heart of inequality. Spread the games around properly, and the smaller clubs will struggle less in the modern football environment. As long as special deals exist for Collingwood at the MCG, while North and the Bulldogs get next to 0 FTA coverage and crap timeslots (hindering exposure, and thus corporate support), while playing interstate teams with minimal Melbourne support and almost no mutual interest from others (limiting gate reciepts and memberships), at a stadium with the worst returns in the league then the situation perpetuates itself.

You can live with the past or you address inequalities that have arisen, whatever floats your boat.

 

[Kwality]

yeah, not when the ACC says there was no wrong doing.

The ACC response is at that point in time, no more a guarantee for the future than will be ASADA report out next week.

 

[The_Wookie]

You can live with the past or you address inequalities that have arisen, whatever floats your boat.

or you can troll forums complaining about it.

 

[Kwality]

or you can troll forums complaining about it.

Its your axe to grind ...