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Who will captain every club in 2017 and who is next in line?

Al Paton, Herald Sun

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THERE have been some surprising captaincy calls already for 2017 — and there could be more to come.

At some clubs the vacancy sign is up, changes are expected at several others, and who saw the Swans’ decision to replace Jarrad McVeigh and Kieren Jack with Josh Kennedy coming?

We take a closer look at the leadership stocks at every club.


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Bob Murphy returns from knee surgery next year and will step back into the captaincy at age 34 — unless he decides to step aside in favour of close mate Easton Wood, who led the Dogs to the 2016 premiership.

Former St Kilda coach Grant Thomas said recently that it was “illogical” for Murphy to remain skipper. “To have Bob Murphy take that position next year, who would think that would be logical? It goes to the point of future development, and benefit of the club overall,” Thomas said. “Bob Murphy is not going to be any different. He’s still going to do what he’s going to do. Easton Wood might come out of his shell even further — or whoever else they choose — and everyone’s a winner.”

Wood and Marcus Bontempelli were promoted to the leadership group in 2016, joining veterans Dale Morris and Matthew Boyd. Tom Liberatore and Jordan Roughead were left out after injury-marred 2015 seasons but have strong cases for a recall while Bont is a captain in the making.
 

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Far out you guys are a sensitive bunch. Claim that an ex-Dog's absolute best BORDERS on elite and you all lose your mind.
Koby has far too many flaws to be borderline elite at his best, his best can be very good but he's way too inconsistent and flawed to be having borderline elite thrown about.

His visible sulking on field during the VFL finals didn't help him either, looked like he packed his bags as soon as he missed out on the elimination final.
 
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If he had of actually put his head down and worked hard to get back in rather than sulking and acting like a big sook he could well be a premiership player right now, but that's just something he'll have to deal with. It'll never he his fault though.
Exactly this. Perhaps if he had of put his head down and worked as hard as he could in those weeks, Lin Jong's spot after the elimination final might have been his. But it wasn't because he hadn't earnt it, and rather than copping that he's potting the club because it's everyone but Koby's fault.

A strong part of our success this year cam be attributed to no longer having those kind of prima donna blokes in the side, like we might have carried through in the past.
 

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Koby not even close to elite. Certainly a lock for best 22 in any team when he's at his best, but unfortunately that isn't very often. As others have said he has average disposal and is not a great decision maker at all. But he's as tough as they come, gets involved and can kick a goal or two. Unfortunately those positives seem to disappear as soon as he's out of favour and in the vfl. If he doesn't address his attitude, we'll be reading a very similar article in 2-3 years as he is forced out of the saints midfield.
 
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He played pretty well in the VFL granfinal, I didn't see any signs of sulking. I think he's disappointed he dropped from favour, I think that understandable.

He's a competitive bloke, he always thinks hes good enough. I don't think what he said was anymore than a player who was frustrated at how it ended for him, given how his season started.

He was not in our best 22 by the time the finals arrived, just too many in front of him. Someone always misses out.
 

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Number 7 talked about topic in Australia on Facebook this year was our premiership. Disappointing that Pauline Hanson was ahead in number 6 but we beat Brexit and the Olympics


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Where did cheese on Bacon and Egg rolls rank?
 

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Facebook's most talked-about topics in Australia in 2016

1. US elections
2. Malcolm Turnbull
3. Shark attacks
4. David Bowie
5. Pokemon Go
6. Pauline Hanson
7. Western Bulldogs and AFL Grand Final
8. Brexit
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-14/top-dogs-amateur-hour

LUKE BEVERIDGE'S coaching fingerprints are all over three of the past five AFL premiership cups.

He was part of Mick Malthouse's backroom staff at Collingwood in 2010 and was the defensive coach at Hawthorn as that club won back-to-back premierships in 2013 and 2014.

But the greatest work of the new coach of the Western Bulldogs might well have come in the more austere surrounds of the Victorian Amateur Football Association.

It was there that Beveridge helped create VAFA history, leading St Bedes/Mentone Tigers to three straight premierships – C Section in 2006, B Section the following season and A Section in 2008.

Three flags in three years in three grades; it had never been done in amateur football before and it put Beveridge on the track from being a former League footballer who went back to help the old boys team of his former school, to becoming an AFL senior coach.

Beveridge was an assistant coach at the club in 2005 when despite winning a handful of games, the Tigers were relegated back to C Section.

He took the main job the following year and transformed the club immediately. "He created an environment that people wanted to be part of, from the seniors all the way through to the fourths," said Tim Lamb, then assistant coach of the Tigers and now Melbourne's national recruiting manager.

Lamb recalls every player at the club receiving a DVD in the post in the summer of 2006 inviting them back for pre-season training with the theme 'we want you here'. And once the season was underway, every senior player took part in an individual video review of their game from the previous weekend.

"It was common practice in the AFL, but unheard of at the time at C Grade amateur level," said Lamb.

And it's not like Beveridge was sitting idle at the time. In addition to coaching, he held down a senior job in the corporate sector and was a husband and father of a young family.

"He understood people and he understood balance. These were people with other things going on in their lives but he still built a club where he was able to get the best out of them as footballers," Lamb said.

St Bedes went through the 2006 home and away season undefeated, but shockingly lost the second semi-final to AJAX by a goal. The re-match a fortnight shaped as a classic and the capacity 5000 crowd at Sandringham's Trevor Barker Oval on a warm and sunny afternoon witnessed what many believe to be the best game of amateur football ever played.

AJAX jumped to a 47-point lead midway through the second quarter and even despite the result two weeks prior, this shaped as a monumental upset. St Bedes had owned C Grade all year; to not win the premiership was unthinkable.

Up stepped Beveridge, who soon became the most influential player on the ground. He parked himself across half-back and according to Lamb, "read the play, set things up and from a leadership point of view, got them focusing on what they could control and to be in touch at half-time."

By the main break the Tigers were back within 22 points and by the final change it was five points. Beveridge wasn't necessarily the best player on the ground but his influence was profound. To this day, AJAX supporters ask why their coach, Tim O'Shaughnessy, didn't put more work into negating Beveridge.

"He stood out not because he was the most talented player on the ground, but he just always put himself in the right spot," said AJAX captain Nick Gold. "To use the modern football vernacular, they had a plus-one going and he read the play beautifully and chipped the ball to the right spots. He was a cool head in the right position."

The lead changed hands several times in an epic final quarter, but it was a big mark from Aaron Sawers, the son of AFL umpiring legend Rowan Sawers, which set up the match-winning goal from Paul Groves, just moments before the final siren. Beveridge, of course, was involved in that final, decisive passage of play.

St Bedes would win 21.12 (138) to 21.11 (137). Beveridge, at age 36 and with 118 AFL games to his name, would tell the Sunday Age: "This is the best win I've ever been involved with."

The B Grade flag the following year wasn't too shabby, either, with the Tigers spotting University Blacks a four-goal lead and trailing from early in the second term until midway through the last before winning by 13 points.

Remarkably, the A Grade premiership in 2008 was the easiest-won of the lot, with St Bedes ahead at quarter-time despite kicking into a five-goal lead. The Tigers led Collegians by 40 points at half-time and eased home from there to win by 30 points to take their place in the record books.

St Bedes recruited selectively over that period but it was mainly the same group of players who delivered the three premierships. "He placed a huge focus in player retention and the team that won the A Grade flag had five players who were eligible for the under-19s," said Lamb. "And we won the under-19 flags in those three years as well."

It was only at the end of 2014 that the Tigers dropped out of A Grade. They would contest two more Grand Finals after Beveridge left the club to join Collingwood, but Lamb said he left an incredible legacy.

"He would be the first to say there were other people just as responsible for the club's success, but he didn't coach just the team; he led the staff, committee and the supporters as well. The club had been around for 100 years but until he came along it had never been to A Section. He made it a very inclusive place, with no segregation between the various teams, which can happen in local footy."

It was obvious to all at St Bedes that a bigger stage beckoned for Beveridge. "His footy philosophy was quite clear and from the start he trained them in the manner he wanted to play on a Saturday, which was different to what most of the guys were used to," Lamb said.

"His football nous and his understanding of the technical side of the game was through the roof."

Watching from afar, Lamb has noticed the effect Beveridge has had in his two coaching stints in the AFL, particularly at Hawthorn.

"Have a look at 2013. To me, it was no coincidence that the best and fairest (Josh Gibson) and the Norm Smith medallist (Brian Lake) in their premiership team were both from the backline, the part of the ground he oversaw."

Lamb expects Beveridge to go well at the Whitten Oval. Premierships seem to follow him wherever he goes.

"He's just a terrific coach to play for. And on a personal level, he's a good mate and a mentor of mine and I’m just rapt for him," he said.
 

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Facebook's most talked-about topics in Australia in 2016

1. US elections
2. Malcolm Turnbull
3. Shark attacks
4. David Bowie
5. Pokemon Go
6. Pauline Hanson
7. Western Bulldogs and AFL Grand Final
8. Brexit
9. Rodrigo Duterte
10. Olympics

If that's the quality of conversation, thank **** I don't have Facebook .
 

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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-14/top-dogs-amateur-hour

LUKE BEVERIDGE'S coaching fingerprints are all over three of the past five AFL premiership cups.

He was part of Mick Malthouse's backroom staff at Collingwood in 2010 and was the defensive coach at Hawthorn as that club won back-to-back premierships in 2013 and 2014.

But the greatest work of the new coach of the Western Bulldogs might well have come in the more austere surrounds of the Victorian Amateur Football Association.

It was there that Beveridge helped create VAFA history, leading St Bedes/Mentone Tigers to three straight premierships – C Section in 2006, B Section the following season and A Section in 2008.

Three flags in three years in three grades; it had never been done in amateur football before and it put Beveridge on the track from being a former League footballer who went back to help the old boys team of his former school, to becoming an AFL senior coach.

Beveridge was an assistant coach at the club in 2005 when despite winning a handful of games, the Tigers were relegated back to C Section.

He took the main job the following year and transformed the club immediately. "He created an environment that people wanted to be part of, from the seniors all the way through to the fourths," said Tim Lamb, then assistant coach of the Tigers and now Melbourne's national recruiting manager.

Lamb recalls every player at the club receiving a DVD in the post in the summer of 2006 inviting them back for pre-season training with the theme 'we want you here'. And once the season was underway, every senior player took part in an individual video review of their game from the previous weekend.

"It was common practice in the AFL, but unheard of at the time at C Grade amateur level," said Lamb.

And it's not like Beveridge was sitting idle at the time. In addition to coaching, he held down a senior job in the corporate sector and was a husband and father of a young family.

"He understood people and he understood balance. These were people with other things going on in their lives but he still built a club where he was able to get the best out of them as footballers," Lamb said.

St Bedes went through the 2006 home and away season undefeated, but shockingly lost the second semi-final to AJAX by a goal. The re-match a fortnight shaped as a classic and the capacity 5000 crowd at Sandringham's Trevor Barker Oval on a warm and sunny afternoon witnessed what many believe to be the best game of amateur football ever played.

AJAX jumped to a 47-point lead midway through the second quarter and even despite the result two weeks prior, this shaped as a monumental upset. St Bedes had owned C Grade all year; to not win the premiership was unthinkable.

Up stepped Beveridge, who soon became the most influential player on the ground. He parked himself across half-back and according to Lamb, "read the play, set things up and from a leadership point of view, got them focusing on what they could control and to be in touch at half-time."

By the main break the Tigers were back within 22 points and by the final change it was five points. Beveridge wasn't necessarily the best player on the ground but his influence was profound. To this day, AJAX supporters ask why their coach, Tim O'Shaughnessy, didn't put more work into negating Beveridge.

"He stood out not because he was the most talented player on the ground, but he just always put himself in the right spot," said AJAX captain Nick Gold. "To use the modern football vernacular, they had a plus-one going and he read the play beautifully and chipped the ball to the right spots. He was a cool head in the right position."

The lead changed hands several times in an epic final quarter, but it was a big mark from Aaron Sawers, the son of AFL umpiring legend Rowan Sawers, which set up the match-winning goal from Paul Groves, just moments before the final siren. Beveridge, of course, was involved in that final, decisive passage of play.

St Bedes would win 21.12 (138) to 21.11 (137). Beveridge, at age 36 and with 118 AFL games to his name, would tell the Sunday Age: "This is the best win I've ever been involved with."

The B Grade flag the following year wasn't too shabby, either, with the Tigers spotting University Blacks a four-goal lead and trailing from early in the second term until midway through the last before winning by 13 points.

Remarkably, the A Grade premiership in 2008 was the easiest-won of the lot, with St Bedes ahead at quarter-time despite kicking into a five-goal lead. The Tigers led Collegians by 40 points at half-time and eased home from there to win by 30 points to take their place in the record books.

St Bedes recruited selectively over that period but it was mainly the same group of players who delivered the three premierships. "He placed a huge focus in player retention and the team that won the A Grade flag had five players who were eligible for the under-19s," said Lamb. "And we won the under-19 flags in those three years as well."

It was only at the end of 2014 that the Tigers dropped out of A Grade. They would contest two more Grand Finals after Beveridge left the club to join Collingwood, but Lamb said he left an incredible legacy.

"He would be the first to say there were other people just as responsible for the club's success, but he didn't coach just the team; he led the staff, committee and the supporters as well. The club had been around for 100 years but until he came along it had never been to A Section. He made it a very inclusive place, with no segregation between the various teams, which can happen in local footy."

It was obvious to all at St Bedes that a bigger stage beckoned for Beveridge. "His footy philosophy was quite clear and from the start he trained them in the manner he wanted to play on a Saturday, which was different to what most of the guys were used to," Lamb said.

"His football nous and his understanding of the technical side of the game was through the roof."

Watching from afar, Lamb has noticed the effect Beveridge has had in his two coaching stints in the AFL, particularly at Hawthorn.

"Have a look at 2013. To me, it was no coincidence that the best and fairest (Josh Gibson) and the Norm Smith medallist (Brian Lake) in their premiership team were both from the backline, the part of the ground he oversaw."

Lamb expects Beveridge to go well at the Whitten Oval. Premierships seem to follow him wherever he goes.

"He's just a terrific coach to play for. And on a personal level, he's a good mate and a mentor of mine and I’m just rapt for him," he said.
Makes sense how he gets everybody involved. When the VFL players done interviews and vice versa, they both congratulated the opposite team like it was their own, and they were apart of both
 

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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-14/top-dogs-amateur-hour

LUKE BEVERIDGE'S coaching fingerprints are all over three of the past five AFL premiership cups... etc.

Reading this article two years on makes me appreciate just how good an appointment it was; praise be that the club was bold enough to engage another first-time senior coach after the previous experience. Thank you for reposting the article.

It's obvious the man leading our club is a supreme communicator. I haven't seen much mentioned about the weekly 'address to members' videos posted during the season - they typify exactly what the article describes about the inclusiveness Luke employs, seemingly everywhere he's coached. As a supporter/member, it was great to see candid assessments so soon after each game when emotion was still raw; made me feel valued. It's hard not to love the guy.

[As an aside, didn't realise Bevo was playing-coach at St Bede's].
 

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