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I thought the points made by King and Derm, on their own, were valid.
We don't score enough currently to win a flag.
However, like you pointed out, as Jonno said, we are generating enough inside 50s to kick a high score. We're just butchering it going forward and missing set shots. This is what's different to the Freo sides who played a defensively minded game and didn't generate large amounts of inside 50s. Also, I can't agree with the argument that we add an extra player at stoppages. I can't back this up but surely if we did this the opposition is just conceding the game as they wont win the footy! So a bit short sited, particularly from Derm.
Also we butcher the ball a lot going forward under minimal pressure. However a lot of that might be fatigue. I don't know how many times this year I've heard from commentators and opposition supporters when we played their team that the game was suffocating and high pressured. Robbo said this week our game against the Eagles had no room to breathe. When we played the pies I heard from their supporters they haven't seen such a high pressured game in a while - and that was with us having an off day. All our games are high pressured - and most of the time we're seeing the oppositions best effort in terms of intensity (save for freo round 1. Saints sucked but brought the intensity against us).
We're doing alright and once (if) we start converting our inside 50s and set shots we will be an all mighty force
We don't score enough currently to win a flag.
However, like you pointed out, as Jonno said, we are generating enough inside 50s to kick a high score. We're just butchering it going forward and missing set shots. This is what's different to the Freo sides who played a defensively minded game and didn't generate large amounts of inside 50s. Also, I can't agree with the argument that we add an extra player at stoppages. I can't back this up but surely if we did this the opposition is just conceding the game as they wont win the footy! So a bit short sited, particularly from Derm.
Also we butcher the ball a lot going forward under minimal pressure. However a lot of that might be fatigue. I don't know how many times this year I've heard from commentators and opposition supporters when we played their team that the game was suffocating and high pressured. Robbo said this week our game against the Eagles had no room to breathe. When we played the pies I heard from their supporters they haven't seen such a high pressured game in a while - and that was with us having an off day. All our games are high pressured - and most of the time we're seeing the oppositions best effort in terms of intensity (save for freo round 1. Saints sucked but brought the intensity against us).
We're doing alright and once (if) we start converting our inside 50s and set shots we will be an all mighty force
1) We are a young side, still learning how to play for 25 - 26 weeks at 100% of capability. And with Redpath back, we have a better structure now in the forward line.
2) As the season progresses, sides adapt and learn to counter anyone who makes a fast start - so that the scoring (across the board, not just us) dries up as the year progresses.
3) Injuries have robbed us of many of our better ball users and speedy players - guys that can run 20 - 30 and kick for 50 - which has made our scoring output drop.
4) Consequently, this has pushed players who aren't as good into these roles and this has decreased our forward efficiency - similar I50's, but less value from them.
5) Out set shot goal scoring is a bit shit.....
6) We are still yet to have a free hit at a scoring boost from either Essendon or GC to artificially increase our average...
If we can get players back (ie Suckling, JJ etc) and approach close to full fitness - our scoring should increase. If we could fix our goal kicking, it would improve even further.
I have us at 91 ppg at present, eliminate the lol Norf game and we are at 95 ppg. That's getting closer to the media's 'premiership standard'.
As for the extra player at stoppages, On the Couch highlighted our extra numbers at the stoppage for a few instances on Monday. In our bad games, I think sides are letting us win the contest, then immediately pressuring the ball carrier and receivers - denying us time to move it quickly and accurately - look at the lol Norf game for the very high level of turnovers during this match. Our quick ball movement via hands is great, provided we have even numbers outside the contest. This quick ball movement is not always precise, so an extra man on the outside might be able to intercept the wayward quick movement and counter. We need to learn to counter this, which I'm sure Bevo and co are looking into....

