What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? (Part 1 - cont in Part 2)

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Its not like he was alone.
And looking back at past grand finals there are 5-10 players every year who have stinkers.
I'm sure if you look at the Hawthorn v Sydney grand final you could find 5 hawks who had absolute shockers.
Of course but no players of the past decade IMO choked as much as he has. I could find about 5 pieces of play where he choked it or really embarrassed himself.

I've watched the game over ten times now and trust me there isnt a worst gf performance than Ballantynes.

Some players hardly touch the ball like u say and they are shockers and every gf has 5 or 10 of those types but noone has choked it as much as he did.

Fell over in the centre of the ground and turned it over, missed an easy chest mark then snap, missed another 2-3 shots at goal which were gimmies. The pressure got to him and now he has to wear that and see if he can atone for it.
 

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Of course but no players of the past decade IMO choked as much as he has. I could find about 5 pieces of play where he choked it or really embarrassed himself.

I've watched the game over ten times now and trust me there isnt a worst gf performance than Ballantynes.

Some players hardly touch the ball like u say and they are shockers and every gf has 5 or 10 of those types but noone has choked it as much as he did.

Fell over in the centre of the ground and turned it over, missed an easy chest mark then snap, missed another 2-3 shots at goal which were gimmies. The pressure got to him and now he has to wear that and see if he can atone for it.
To be fair, he did provide the best and most memorable moment of the GF when he decked Franklin.
 

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Of course but no players of the past decade IMO choked as much as he has. I could find about 5 pieces of play where he choked it or really embarrassed himself.

I've watched the game over ten times now and trust me there isnt a worst gf performance than Ballantynes.

Some players hardly touch the ball like u say and they are shockers and every gf has 5 or 10 of those types but noone has choked it as much as he did.

Fell over in the centre of the ground and turned it over, missed an easy chest mark then snap, missed another 2-3 shots at goal which were gimmies. The pressure got to him and now he has to wear that and see if he can atone for it.
At least he got the ball.
Leon Davis had what was it 5 touches in 2 grand finals?

He had a bad game, admittedly, but you gotta wait til he plays another one to see if it was actually a choke or more of an anomaly
 

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At least he got the ball.
Leon Davis had what was it 5 touches in 2 grand finals?

He had a bad game, admittedly, but you gotta wait til he plays another one to see if it was actually a choke or more of an anomaly
Yeah there are different forms of choking, the worrying thing about Leon was he probably didn't even have anyone closely checking him, he just couldn't get anywhere near it
 

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A natural winger in a tall man's body?

One of those tall players that is a natural follower/winger but forced to play a key position?

Eg, Nick Riewoldt to an extent, Matthew Robran, Leigh Brown, Adam Goodes early career, any others?

I'm pretty sure Kepler may fall into this category too - from memory he was a winger during his junior years, big motor, but always used as a KPP or stopgap.

FWIW, I think Jack Watts should try and emulate Westys game. Not big or strong enough to be a KPP. Has the athletic ability, natural instinct and height to be a unique winger. Westy plays his best footy swinging between the arcs and floating forward occasionally. Creates fantastic mismatches. Can take a contested clunk too (obviously jack struggles with this one).
 

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At least he got the ball.
Leon Davis had what was it 5 touches in 2 grand finals?

He had a bad game, admittedly, but you gotta wait til he plays another one to see if it was actually a choke or more of an anomaly
I distinctly remember Ballantyne hurting Freo with some of his possessions, turning it over and what not. I would rather Leon not getting it much, rather than Ballas hurting the team.
 

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Following AFL football is a waste of time. There are better things to do in life. Think of all time you spend travelling to and from games, standing in queues before the game and at half time, watching overpaid gorillas chase a piece of leather, hurling abuse at the umpires, cursing the opposition guns, cursing your own team's duds, shuffling slowly out of the ground after the final siren, listening to shitty talkback radio, listening to shitty radio commercials, watching godawful TV panel shows, reading insipid newspaper articles, pre-season fluff pieces about Jobe & Timmy Watson, listening to Channel 7's crappy commentary, Bruce and Dennis tossing each other off and swearing at your TV screen like a crazy man, daydreaming of your team winning the Grand Final, posting mindless crap on Big Footy, arguing with some imbecile over who was better: Tredrea or Riewoldt? Hird or Buckley? .... and for what? Was your life improved? Did it help you achieve your goals? Did you wake up and find yourself living in a Toorak mansion with a beautiful wife and $10,000,000 in your bank account? All it really did was temporarily distract you from the miserable reality that your life sucks.

AFL football is like heroin: it's heavy users suffer through long periods of drawn-out anticipation and irritation, the occasional fleeting high, interspersed with a zombified, stupefied state of existence, their body and mind slowly rotting as the years tick by, the world passing them by.

Enjoy your AFL, schmucks. Here's some highlights of Peter Daicos brought to you by McDonalds cheeseburgers and Carlton United Breweries.

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I distinctly remember Ballantyne hurting Freo with some of his possessions, turning it over and what not. I would rather Leon not getting it much, rather than Ballas hurting the team.
I guess I cant disagree with you.
I would also say a player like Leon Davis not getting the ball is hurting his team almost as much.
 

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Gary Ablett Jr. is the most overated player in the afl, he only gets alot of possesions and dosen't impact games.
Mine would be quite the opposite of this then. Ablett is so clear as the #1 player of the game that it's almost humorous. When certain players have a purple patch or great year they are talked as being on his level (Pendlebury, Dangerfield, Watson) without considering that Ablett has been playing at that level consistently for 7 years now. So the best of the rest when they are up and about is Abletts norm.
 

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Mine would be quite the opposite of this then. Ablett is so clear as the #1 player of the game that it's almost humorous. When certain players have a purple patch or great year they are talked as being on his level (Pendlebury, Dangerfield, Watson) without considering that Ablett has been playing at that level consistently for 7 years now. So the best of the rest when they are up and about is Abletts norm.

If Ablett is as good as everybody thinks he is then why don't Gold Coast win more games
 

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If Ablett is as good as everybody thinks he is then why don't Gold Coast win more games
Cause football is not tennis, the result depends on the combined efforts and abilities of 22 player versus the other 22 players, not a single player. If you didn't already understand that I don't suspect you ever will. 8 games far exceeded what most thought GC would win last year.

I'm sure Beams, Pendles and Swanny rate him as they were clearly outclassed when going head to head with him last year. They are some of the best midfielders going around and he made them look 2nd rate.
 

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If Ablett is as good as everybody thinks he is then why don't Gold Coast win more games
Gold Coast perform at the same level with or without Ablett. Off topic I can't remember Ablett ever laying a shepherd for his team mates even at Geelong.
 

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Cause football is not tennis, the result depends on the combined efforts and abilities of 22 player versus the other 22 players, not a single player. If you didn't already understand that I don't suspect you ever will. 8 games far exceeded what most thought GC would win last year.

I'm sure Beams, Pendles and Swanny rate him as they were clearly outclassed when going head to head with him last year. They are some of the best midfielders going around and he made them look 2nd rate.

That was Just a game collingwood played poorly and our midfield defence as a whole was poor.
 

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Mine would be quite the opposite of this then. Ablett is so clear as the #1 player of the game that it's almost humorous. When certain players have a purple patch or great year they are talked as being on his level (Pendlebury, Dangerfield, Watson) without considering that Ablett has been playing at that level consistently for 7 years now. So the best of the rest when they are up and about is Abletts norm.
Ablett is clearly the best player in my opinion, but im pretty sure Pendlebury has had more than a purple patch in his career as he has been very good since 2007 and an a grader since 2009 and is the clear number 2 player in the league and the most consistent and has plenty of room for improvement in his game. Obviously thats my opinion and it probably means nothing
 
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