Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

[Luv_our_club]

Gillon's response to the Rampe incident was measured, considered and reasonable, unlike most others.

A warning with no action if he responded immediately was the right call.

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I think you disagree with the rule. Most people do. A goal is too high a penalty to pay, especially where it costs a team the game.

But you can't agree with Gill's.... "the vibe"... comments. To me it revealed the problem with AFL umpire manipulation that we face. The arrogant and idiotic AFL give too many instructions to umpires based on what outcomes they want, week to week, destroying consistency of decision making and enjoyment for fans.

 

[NonPhixion]

Lachie Whitfield is a top 5 player in the league.
Possibly the fittest player in the league, making him incredibly hard to tag and is very damaging with his run & carry, is an elite kick too.

 

[aflfootyfanatic]

Hawthorn has no loyal fanbase, sorry all the true 'nonbandwagon' loyal supporters out there but even you guys have to admit that it's true.

 

[jatz14]

I think you disagree with the rule. Most people do. A goal is too high a penalty to pay, especially where it costs a team the game.

But you can't agree with Gill's.... "the vibe"... comments. To me it revealed the problem with AFL umpire manipulation that we face. The arrogant and idiotic AFL give too many instructions to umpires based on what outcomes they want, week to week, destroying consistency of decision making and enjoyment for fans.

Commentators in tonight's Eagles game were upset that the Umps were not with `the vibe`. Umpire to the flow of the game, do not pull up free kicks that have no impact on play. This is the common refrain, when it suits the purpose. When headlines and controversy can be had by objecting to umps not enforcing the letter of the law, then that is what they run with. Complete bullshit.

People say GF are better umpired than regular games because they let stuff go.

Rampes act was after the siren, and had zero impact on play, if they do not let it go, they can never let anything go.

 

[4THAWN]

Hawthorn has no loyal fanbase, sorry all the true 'nonbandwagon' loyal supporters out there but even you guys have to admit that it's true.

and the moon doesn't exist

 

[PAFC_1870]

and the moon doesn't exist

As far as drop off goes I can't think anyone who comes close

 

[Engimal v3]

Back pockets should carry a gun, on-field.

 

[4THAWN]

As far as drop off goes I can't think anyone who comes close

33298 avg home attendance in 2018 for hawthorn when we finished top 4.

this year so far its 34483, and remember we've had the worst timeslot in the game week after week and played on mothers day getting a shocking crowd.

 

[PAFC_1870]

33298 avg home attendance in 2018 for hawthorn when we finished top 4.

this year so far its 34483, and remember we've had the worst timeslot in the game week after week and played on mothers day getting a shocking crowd.

You can pack a joint and get 15k a week after....

 

[Damon_3388]

I like Garry Lyon as a commentator, and think he's great to listen to when he offers serious opinion and tactical discussion.

 

[bresker]

instead of having a Tasmanian team, they should have one called The Australasian JetTrotters, who have no home but play at different cities each week such as Hobart, Darwin, Christchurch, Singapore, Shepparton, Canberra, Zhengzhou, Berrigan etc. Their symbol could be an aeroplane and their club song could be to the tune of "leaving on a jet plane." The AFL will subsidise their fans to travel for 3 away games a year. They could be the biggest club in Australia. I read a history once that said the reason why Collingwood are so popular is that they used to tour around the regions.

 

[kiwicrow]

I think the AFL should increase list sizes and extend the bench to 6 and get rid of the interchange cap. That way coaches are free to pick more specialist players and have more tactical freedom. Teams will be able to carry a couple of less athletic but more skilful player.

Let’s be honest, there’s a few teams out there now that prove that there aren’t enough footballers in Australia to field 18 teams as it is.

 

[mike123]

Let’s be honest, there’s a few teams out there now that prove that there aren’t enough footballers in Australia to field 18 teams as it is.

I reckon it helps those teams as well. Allot of the time the inexperienced teams just can’t match it fitness wise with the harderned teams but with more on the bench and more rotation fitness would divide teams less.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Let’s be honest, there’s a few teams out there now that prove that there aren’t enough footballers in Australia to field 18 teams as it is.

I disagree. The big issue is the picking up of players as teenagers and clubs doing 5 year rebuilds. There'd be less turnover of players if the draft age was raised and draft picks were less speculative, because the watched players play senior state league football.

 

[kiwicrow]

I disagree. The big issue is the picking up of players as teenagers and clubs doing 5 year rebuilds. There'd be less turnover of players if the draft age was raised and draft picks were less speculative, because the watched players play senior state league football.

I think they have to pick them up young because there’s no one else available to fill the list, and the rebuilds surely would be shorter if every team had an overall average better player?

The average #12-18 player on most lists isn’t the strongest and I do think we’re stretching available talent to fill 18 sides.

I am however a big supporter of a smaller AFL team number but a stronger and more invested state or regional competition with the ability for teams to go up or down between the regional and AFL comps. Who doesn’t love strong grass roots football?

There’s enough people in Australia just not enough players and a weak state comp isn’t helping the AFL.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

I think they have to pick them up young because there’s no one else available to fill the list, and the rebuilds surely would be shorter if every team had an overall average better player?

The average #12-18 player on most lists isn’t the strongest and I do think we’re stretching available talent to fill 18 sides.

I am however a big supporter of a smaller AFL team number but a stronger and more invested state or regional competition with the ability for teams to go up or down between the regional and AFL comps. Who doesn’t love strong grass roots football?

There’s enough people in Australia just not enough players and a weak state comp isn’t helping the AFL.

I'm big on raising the draft age to 20 or either limiting the number of teenagers on a your list to two. It will be much like going to college in the NFL, players will have time to let their bodies develop as well as allow them to grow up and mature out of the spotlight.

We will see which players actually are dedicated to playing professional football. The quality of WAFL/SANFL/VFL league games will vastly improve and there will be somewhat of a build up around the State games.

Imagine the hype of a player that has dominated the WAFL/SANFL/VFL/NEAFL for two years and enters the draft, the hype over the number 1 pick will be huge. That player will be able to come in and have an immediate impact. Less teams will be running out half a colts side on any given weekend too.

For this to happen though the AFL has to give funds to the State Clubs to be able to increase wages.

 

[Damon_3388]

I think each club should wear their Indigenous jumper from this year as their main jumper full-time.

 

[Blutopia]

I'm big on raising the draft age to 20 or either limiting the number of teenagers on a your list to two. It will be much like going to college in the NFL, players will have time to let their bodies develop as well as allow them to grow up and mature out of the spotlight.

We will see which players actually are dedicated to playing professional football. The quality of WAFL/SANFL/VFL league games will vastly improve and there will be somewhat of a build up around the State games.

Imagine the hype of a player that has dominated the WAFL/SANFL/VFL/NEAFL for two years and enters the draft, the hype over the number 1 pick will be huge. That player will be able to come in and have an immediate impact. Less teams will be running out half a colts side on any given weekend too.

For this to happen though the AFL has to give funds to the State Clubs to be able to increase wages.

So that means players like Sam Walsh, Connor Rozee, Jaidyn Stephenson, Callum Mills, Jesse Hogan etc who have been very good players in their first year miss out on 2 years of their career and almost 50 games by the end of it?

Agree the afl could put more $ into state leagues to ensure players who miss out in their U18 year still persist and strengthen the state league comp’s but the best result would be clubs draft about 35-40 per year from U18 level and then another 30 or so from state leagues who have persisted and are ready to go also.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

So that means players like Sam Walsh, Connor Rozee, Jaidyn Stephenson, Callum Mills, Jesse Hogan etc who have been very good players in their first year miss out on 2 years of their career and almost 50 games by the end of it?

Agree the afl could put more $ into state leagues to ensure players who miss out in their U18 year still persist and strengthen the state league comp’s but the best result would be clubs draft about 35-40 per year from U18 level and then another 30 or so from state leagues who have persisted and are ready to go also.

The only way that can happen is if they put a cap on teenagers on a clubs list. For every good player that does play an extra year in the state leagues I think the overall benefit to the game will be much greater. Imagine the hype around these players if they played state footy against men for a year or two prior to the draft.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

I like Garry Lyon as a commentator, and think he's great to listen to when he offers serious opinion and tactical discussion.

Now that is an unpopular opinion.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Now that is an unpopular opinion.

I'm not a big fan of the big West Coast Victorian conspiracy but Garry Lyon is one person who never got over the hatred.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

I'm not a big fan of the big West Coast Victorian conspiracy but Garry Lyon is one person who never got over the hatred.

Ploughed his mates misses, was the eternal fence sitter at footy classified and now J. Brown provoker, hates WC and NicNat, allegedly would use racist slurs onfield and outside of footy is an LNP tragic and all round dickhead. Known for being an a-hole to work with, s**t to fans and a primadonna temper.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Ploughed his mates misses, was the eternal fence sitter at footy classified and now J. Brown provoker, hates WC and NicNat, allegedly would use racist slurs onfield and outside of footy is an LNP tragic and all round dickhead. Known for being an a-hole to work with, **** to fans and a primadonna temper.

I also heard he vetoed positive West Coast stories on Footy Classified circa 2015.

As you said, he's a fence sitter unless it was anti-Nic Nat until 2018 when he suddenly decided NN was a better pick than Watts. Nothing to do with Watts going to Port Adelaide, of course.

 

[telsor]

The only way that can happen is if they put a cap on teenagers on a clubs list. For every good player that does play an extra year in the state leagues I think the overall benefit to the game will be much greater. Imagine the hype around these players if they played state footy against men for a year or two prior to the draft.

The problem with your theory/plan is that the kids not in the AFL system wouldn't get nearly as much time/effort put into their development. The lower comps don't have the same resources to dedicate to them, and the kids wouldn't be full timers.

So, on average, the 21 year olds coming out of that wouldn't be as good.

 

[Billy ray]

If a non-Victorian based team is playing a Victorian based team in the grand final, the victorian team should be forced to take a flight of equivalent distance (even just a loop around for 1/2/3/4 hours) on the same day the other team is flying.
And also they should have to stay in a hotel also rather than their own homes.