What was/is the biggest scandal? Carey or Cousins.

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Carey didn't make any vows before god to Stevo, his wife did. His wife committed the greater sin and Stevo forgave his wife, would be hyporcritical to not forgive a friend.

Carey is just a typical male moron who thinks with the organ dangling between his legs.
But Carey did make vows to hes wife didnt he? Shes friggen hot man, why oh why hey. :confused:
 

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It takes two to tango. ;)

Carey didn't make any vows before god to Stevo, his wife did. His wife committed the greater sin and Stevo forgave his wife, would be hyporcritical to not forgive a friend.

Carey is just a typical male moron who thinks with the organ dangling between his legs.
If it had only happened once, but he banged her for 6 months.

How do you explain him leaving his wife weeks before giving birth?

The bloke is lower than a piece of dog ****.
 
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Carey was a bigger scandal for mine. All time club legend and best every player, best ever captain, one of it’s few multiple flag winners gets caught with another club legend/Mr. popular’s wife and ends up leaving the club.

Cousins is only directly harming himself and there is no reason relationships can’t be mended if indeed there are even severed. In fact he could end up a poster boy yet.

The long term repercussions from Cousins might be a lot more far reaching. From highlighting issues to getting them dealt with. From West Coast Eagles culture to footy club behaviour. Massive media scrutiny from here on in. Increased testing. Reformation of the 3 strikes policy. Even the draft could be affected. Imagine a Victorian parent saying that if WCE draft their baby they will go to court to prevent it because they don’t trust the culture. Where does that leave the AFL?

Carey was a North issue. Cousins is an AFL issue. Carey’s is more a scandal in the true sense of the word. Cousins is a more significant issue in the long term.

Agree with most of this. Carey was the bigger scandal as it came out of the blue and ripped the heart out of club. Everyone was waiting for Cousins to stuff up again, anyone who was completely surprised by this has been living on Mars.

The Cousins saga will defintely have the wider repercussions and larger impact accross the AFL. The only part I disagree with is him ending up a poster boy.:thumbsdown: Unless you mean a wanted poster that is.;)
 

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If it had only happened once, but he banged her for 6 months.

How do you explain him leaving his wife weeks before giving birth?

The bloke is lower than a piece of dog ****.
You are preaching to the choir, he is a cretin. But he is being judged harshly when there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of people doing the same garbage in our communities.

Person A cheats on Person B or Person X divorces Person Y, etc. By those standards 3/4 of the population are just scum, probably plenty of people you know and probably that you call friends, or will know if you are too young atm.

If it was the 60s then what Carey did wouldn't have been the norm, in this day and age fidelity is not a strong point in the community. I have no problem with him being judged by his peers but many people that cast him down would probably do the same thing.

What he did should never have caused the drama that it did. If it was me, I would be filthy on my wife who cheated on me. Friends come and go, they do not make the same kind of commitment that your wife does. For Stevo and others at the club to be pissy with Carey and forgive his cheating wife is just hypocritical as far as I am concerned unless Carey raped her and that is not what happened.
 

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You are preaching to the choir, he is a cretin. But he is being judged harshly when there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of people doing the same garbage in our communities.

Person A cheats on Person B or Person X divorces Person Y, etc. By those standards 3/4 of the population are just scum, probably plenty of people you know and probably that you call friends, or will know if you are too young atm.

If it was the 60s then what Carey did wouldn't have been the norm, in this day and age fidelity is not a strong point in the community. I have no problem with him being judged by his peers but many people that cast him down would probably do the same thing.

What he did should never have caused the drama that it did. If it was me, I would be filthy on my wife who cheated on me. Friends come and go, they do not make the same kind of commitment that your wife does. For Stevo and others at the club to be pissy with Carey and forgive his cheating wife is just hypocritical as far as I am concerned unless Carey raped her and that is not what happened.
dont forget though the Stevens's have their kids to consider

So mby he didnt 'forgive' her as such, more to keep the family together?
 

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I do think the Gay footballer would send this board into meltdown

Like the drug issue it is a hidden issue and one that will have many instant experts

But I think that is the players concern to inform the world he is gay, unlike poor Anthony Callea who had a traffic spotter mention it in passing :eek:
 

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But I think that is the players concern to inform the world he is gay, unlike poor Anthony Callea who had a traffic spotter mention it in passing :eek:
I hadn't heard that one. Why then, did it not cause even a ripple of surprise in me? Probably indicative that some players coming out might surprise more than others.
 

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It takes two to tango. ;)

Carey didn't make any vows before god to Stevo, his wife did. His wife committed the greater sin and Stevo forgave his wife, would be hyporcritical to not forgive a friend.

Carey is just a typical male moron who thinks with the organ dangling between his legs.
This is what gets me Tas, about that whole incident, that Stevens has been able to forgive his wife but not his former best friend - it seems that he was hurt more by what his mate did than his wife.
 

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dont forget though the Stevens's have their kids to consider

So mby he didnt 'forgive' her as such, more to keep the family together?
I have no problem with Stevo forgiving her for what she had done to him, to their kids, to their family. But, what she had done is so much higher on the scale of negativity than what Carey did to him.

It is like forgiving someone for murder but not forgiving them for theft, it makes no sense. He has made him a scapegoat for all the problems because he wants to be with her. Life is so much easier when you have someone you are not attached to in order to blame.

If he is staying with his wife, for the kids, then they have to live in a happy family setting otherwise you are not doing the kids any favours. Kids know when the parents are miserable and they do not grow up happy kids. You can't be happy if you can't forgive and get over what happened.

I would never forgive my wife for a mistake like that, I just wouldn't take out all my hate on just the guy. They would both get the same treatment, in fact, I would hate her more than the guy because the guy has made no vows before god to be faithful, she would have.

Carey was an arse, he put his loins before a friendship but she put a whole lot more on the line than just a friendship.
 

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Did Carey break any Laws?
Pfft!

Irelevent. It is also illegal to record television programs on commercial networks.

Therefore, by this logic, if a player is breaks the law by taping South Park on a Monday night, this "scandal" should blow Carey's indiscretion out of the water?
 

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This is what gets me Tas, about that whole incident, that Stevens has been able to forgive his wife but not his former best friend - it seems that he was hurt more by what his mate did than his wife.
He loves his wife, he was friends with Carey. It is much easier for him to make Carey the scapegoat for what happened. That would allow him to continue to live with his wife.

If Carey raped her then by all means, make him the villain, from what I heard it was she who pursued him. He was just being an idiot, something he was very good at.

Ignorance is bliss, I don't think Stevo cares to face reality that she is the one that betrayed him far more than Carey. If it wasn't Carey, it would have been someone else.

Carey was never a class act, he knew that, he accepted that, accepted him for who he was. What changed? His wife did.
 
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Carey's was the bigger scandal and probably the bigger "sin", fr lack of a better word.

But Cousin's case is turning out to be far more divisive. There was no taking sides with Carey - it was club against him. But at West Coast eveybody is fighting with everybody else. What the hell is going through Chick's tiny brain?
 
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