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What was Thornton Worth?

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parrot said:
Um No. Thornton was never going to be traded. The message just didn't get through no matter how many times we told Pelican. Oh Well. BTW how's Zac Dawson's preseason going? We're all looking forward to the Fev V Zac showdown next year. He couldn't do worse that Croad did I guess - that was funny. :)
Why do people keep going on about dawson for? He only played 4 games for us after round 8 this year so i doubt he is looked at as our future full back anyway.He may be ok as a 2nd or 3rd tall but he is not a full back.
How is luke livingston going by the way? What pick did you use on him again? No 4 was it? At least dawson came off the rookie list.
 
SA HAWK said:
Do you think if we were that desperate wouldn't we have offered pick 6?

I think Pelican assumed we were going to fold. We told him repeatedly that we were not going to trade Thornton. He just didn't listen for some reason. Perhaps he's recently watched video of Zac Dawson V A Rocca. Hard to know for sure what the reason was. He's probably still trying to get Thornton in the PSD. Could you do us all a favour and email him this article. Might save everyone some time. :)
 

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jonesy86 said:
thornton for #24 was fair
No, he's a talented young defender which most clubs would target since they seldom become available and he'd be drafted between picks 11-14 if he was in this year's draft. They only become available when clubs like the Dockers and Pies make the mistake of letting them go or a club has too many tall defenders.

Craig Bolton is now an AA player and he couldn't even get a look in at the Lions.

He was picked up with pick three in the PSD. :eek:
 
As it stands at 44 votes:

Option 1: 10 votes - 6 Carl, 1 Gee, 1 Kang, 1 Rich, 1 UNKNOWN
Option 2: 13 votes - 1 Carl, 7 Haw, 1 Freo, 1 Syd, 1 St.K, 1 Wce, 1 Gee
Option 3: 13 votes - 5 Haw, 1 Coll, 1 Rich, 3 WCE, 1 Kang, 1 Ess, 1 Melb
Option 4: 4 vote - 3, Carl, 1 Freo
Option 5: 4 vote - 2 Carl, 1 Haw, 1 Kang
 
so if u take out the hawthorn and carlton votes most people thnk hes worth about pick 24 which is about right
 
parrot said:
I guess that's why he signed a 3 year contract rather than a 1 year one. Looking forward to your spin on this little fact. Huge laughs. :)

Couldn't be happier, ya Goose. Well done Thornton. Your miserly, bankrupt, corrupt, wooden spoon outfit were too cheap to pay him a reasonable salary and had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the cheque book.

So in the end one of two things happened.

1. Carlton was too bloody cheap and had to fork out some of their AFL handout to pay for Thornton

OR

2. Carlton was right and he's a 150K (was it 150K a year?) hack and they're paying far too much.

So, which was it?? The administration were incompetent and undervalued him or they were incompetent and are overpaying him??
 
lethalselbow said:
Couldn't be happier, ya Goose. Well done Thornton. Your miserly, bankrupt, corrupt, wooden spoon outfit were too cheap to pay him a reasonable salary and had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the cheque book.

So in the end one of two things happened.

1. Carlton was too bloody cheap and had to fork out some of their AFL handout to pay for Thornton

OR

2. Carlton was right and he's a 150K (was it 150K a year?) hack and they're paying far too much.

So, which was it?? The administration were incompetent and undervalued him or they were incompetent and are overpaying him??


I think I hit a raw nerve. The Zac Dawson factor again no doubt. Oh well. :)
 
Furn said:
And what is the Zac Dawson factor exactly ?

I haven't got time to go through it yet again. Perhaps grab yourself a video of the Hawks V Pies game earlier in the year. You'll see what I mean. Obviously played on Pelican's mind last week. :)
 

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Parrot, you've got no squawk. Was having a fun conversation, but seeing you haven't got the spine/bottle/nerve/guts/intelligence to continue we'd better call it a day.

That "I think I touched a nerve" crap describes your lack of spirit. ;)

We'll see about Zac Dawson, I think that 14 games is a little too early to tell. I think he'll be a gun.
 
parrot said:
I haven't got time to go through it yet again. Perhaps grab yourself a video of the Hawks V Pies game earlier in the year. You'll see what I mean. Obviously played on Pelican's mind last week. :)


Hmm, that also brings me back to the St Kilda vs Carlton game... how did Riewoldt go again? :)
 
dipper86 said:
Hmm, that also brings me back to the St Kilda vs Carlton game... how did Riewoldt go again? :)

so because he jagged 8 or 9 on a rare day out you put a bloke down? Gee I do believe at some time during his long and decorated career silgvani had bags kicked on him... but for dawson to have 8 kicked on him and then a couple weeks later thompson did the same i find hilarious... the fact that clarkson, pelchen's tosser is arms, was the idiot who left dawson on both to "learn a lesson" i find even more hilarious!
 
chelsworthgale said:
so because he jagged 8 or 9 on a rare day out you put a bloke down? Gee I do believe at some time during his long and decorated career silgvani had bags kicked on him... but for dawson to have 8 kicked on him and then a couple weeks later thompson did the same i find hilarious... the fact that clarkson, pelchen's tosser is arms, was the idiot who left dawson on both to "learn a lesson" i find even more hilarious!

Dawson is quick and agile, trouble is he isn't strong enough yet, hence Rocca and Thompson gave him a thrashing and through him around like a rag doll.

Dawson can get stronger but i'm afraid Thornton aint going to get any quicker.
 

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dipper86 said:
Dawson is quick and agile, trouble is he isn't strong enough yet, hence Rocca and Thompson gave him a thrashing and through him around like a rag doll.

Dawson can get stronger but i'm afraid Thornton aint going to get any quicker.

So thornton had the weight and speed to go with rocca and thompson... hold on you do realise that with additional strength comes additional weight... weight is generally a factor which slows a player down... hmmm think about it...
 
Mabt thornton finally got it into his head that he could have ended up anywhere eg wa, Queensland, nsw sa :) :thumbsu:
 
SA HAWK said:
How's livingston going again? Pick 4 you say.

gee it must really hurt watching Judd running around getting award after award, un doubtly being claimed as one, if not the best player of all time... and not matter how you try and justify it, no matter how much you try and convince that Hodge was worth number one, everyone who knows football knows that you ****ed up big time! so... Judd... pick 3 you say? hmm hawthorn had, let me see... pick 1?! :eek:
 
chelsworthgale said:
gee it must really hurt watching Judd running around getting award after award, un doubtly being claimed as one, if not the best player of all time... and not matter how you try and justify it, no matter how much you try and convince that Hodge was worth number one, everyone who knows football knows that you ****ed up big time! so... Judd... pick 3 you say? hmm hawthorn had, let me see... pick 1?! :eek:
He wasn't worth no 1 in that draft obviously judd is the better player. How come nobody ever bags the saints over not picking him?

At least hodge plays and has achieved some success in his career. Has been aa won a best and fairest and is generally considered one of the better players in the leauge. So we got the 2nd best player in that draft.

What the **** has luke livingston done? No 4 you say.:eek:
 
chelsworthgale said:
gee it must really hurt watching Judd running around getting award after award, un doubtly being claimed as one, if not the best player of all time... and not matter how you try and justify it, no matter how much you try and convince that Hodge was worth number one, everyone who knows football knows that you ****ed up big time! so... Judd... pick 3 you say? hmm hawthorn had, let me see... pick 1?! :eek:
Lots of pressure on carlton to pick the right guy this year. You got the best one last year but lots of players are touted as good enough to be no 1 this year. Pick the wrong guy and you will be copping **** the same way we do.
 

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