What would you rather Have?

[nut]

Richmonds record since 1950
or

Collingwoods record since 1950.

 

[Mobbs]

Football success record - Richmond's.

Hands above table record - Collingwood's.

 

[hotpie]

I'd rather have Collingwood's VFL/AFL record.

I'd rather have Collingwood's future.

I'd rather morons didn't just pick dates off the calendar to suit their flimsy arguments.

 

[sandeano]

Originally posted by Mobbenfuhrer


Hands above table record - Collingwood's.

Collingwood also has the record for hands down pants when parked outside a Primary school in Clifton Hill.

 

[peejay]

Originally posted by hotpie
I'd rather have Collingwood's VFL/AFL record.

I'd rather have Collingwood's future.

I'd rather morons didn't just pick dates off the calendar to suit their flimsy arguments.

Yes that is typical collingwood supporter - resort name calling when you can not accept the facts

 

[sandeano]

Originally posted by hotpie


I'd rather morons didn't just pick dates off the calendar to suit their flimsy arguments.

I could not agree more, hotpie -

Originally posted by morgoth
You forgot, more premierships in the last 20 years than Richmond, yes Tige fans 22 years since you last tasted it and 21 years since you last even played in one.

 

[nut]

Originally posted by hotpie
I'd rather have Collingwood's VFL/AFL record.

I'd rather have Collingwood's future.

I'd rather morons didn't just pick dates off the calendar to suit their flimsy arguments.

what would you Rather??

 

[goal_umpire]

Who cares? This is getting boring

 

[hotpie]

You blokes started it - Morgoth was just cherrypicking as a psstake.

Originally posted by mighty tiges
Gotta luv Collingwood's success rate - 1 flag in 40 years.

 

[Thrawn]

In the end, it comes down to the number of Premierships. Richmond as a club as nothing on Collingwood in terms of success. The only teams that can bag Collingwood in the success stakes are Carlton and Essendon.

 

[hotpie]

Originally posted by suzi_olsen
Who cares? This is getting boring

Go do your knitting.

 

[sandeano]

Originally posted by Thrawn
In the end, it comes down to the number of Premierships. Richmond as a club as nothing on Collingwood in terms of success. The only teams that can bag Collingwood in the success stakes are Carlton and Essendon.

No, it comes down to the fact that I love Richmond and find Collingwood as appealing as the odour from my cat's litterbox.

 

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by sandeano
No, it comes down to the fact that I love Richmond and find Collingwood as appealing as the odour from my cat's litterbox.

But you can't say that Richmond is more successful than Collingwood. As this is what the argument is based on. I don't believe that I'm even arguing for Collingwood, because it's usually the opposite way around.

 

[sandeano]

Originally posted by Thrawn
But you can't say that Richmond is more successful than Collingwood. As this is what the argument is based on. I don't believe that I'm even arguing for Collingwood, because it's usually the opposite way around.

Stick up for Collingwood as much as you like but that was NOT the argument here. As you can clearly see there was a specific question as the top of this thread that obviously can have only one answer.

 

[Mobbs]

Well if the question was to compare the total premiership records of Saint Kilda to Richmond and choose which one I'd rather be barracking for, then I'd have to say Saint Kilda, because at least then I wouldn't be barracking for Richmond.

 

[hotpie]

Originally posted by sandeano
specific question

Moronic question, more like

 

[mighty tiges]

Originally posted by hotpie
You blokes started it

I don't think so. My "1 flag in 40 years" was in response to your post:

Originally posted by hotpie
Just like Matthew Knoights and Wayne Campbell and Nick Daffy before him, and look at the success they brought!

But glad you now remember you've won only ONE flag in the last 40 years.

 

[sandeano]

Originally posted by Mobbenfuhrer
Well if the question was to compare the total premiership records of Saint Kilda to Richmond and choose which one I'd rather be barracking for, then I'd have to say Saint Kilda, because at least then I wouldn't be barracking for Richmond.

Geez Mobs, that's harsh...after all we gave homes to Broderick, Dundas, Gale and Elliot and were decent enough to give you a champion player like Hogg in return.

Show a bit of gratitude for our kindness and generosity!

 

[MarkT]

I'd rather pick my own arbitrary starting point of 2002 than look your loaded arbitrary starting point. Either that or I'd rather start from beginning to end - i.e. year one for both clubs. Then again, I'd settle for 2003 onwards too.

Originally posted by sandeano
Stick up for Collingwood as much as you like but that was NOT the argument here. As you can clearly see there was a specific question as the top of this thread that obviously can have only one answer.

You miss the point that so far every poster bar yourself is of the opinion that the question is so irrelevant as make it unworthy of answer. FWIW I'd rather have Collingwood history of sustained competitiveness since 1950 compared to Richmond’s single era under Hafey where they were not embarrassing to themselves, their bandwagon, the sport of Australian Rules Football and the principle of honoring contracts - not to mention their own club legends who refuse to enter through the front door.

 

[hotpie]

Originally posted by mighty tiges
I don't think so. My "1 flag in 40 years" was in response to your post:



But glad you now remember you've won only ONE flag in the last 40 years.

Which was in response your comment about a midfielder who was going to be great for you for ten years, and pointing out that you had good players for the last ten years and got nowhere with them

 

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by sandeano
Stick up for Collingwood as much as you like but that was NOT the argument here. As you can clearly see there was a specific question as the top of this thread that obviously can have only one answer.

Yes, and I chose Richmond's success. But how does that matter? The VFL/AFL didn't start in 1950, this poll was created to bend the argument so it benefits Richmond. Why not start the year from 1940, 1930 or even 1990? In the end (in real life), Collingwood is still more successful and that's what counts. These sort of polls are made to benefit the team they go for, by bending it to their advantage. Best indicator is all years, overall history, everything that has happened. You can't just wipe off 50-odd years from the history of the VFL/AFL, because that indicates that you don't want to use previous stats because you know you'll lose the argument.

This is clearly the case in this thread. I've seen a lot of other posters doing the same against Carlton.

 

[Tigers_Goddess]

This is pointless.
Richmond fans are going to say they rather have their record and Collingwood fans are going to say they rather have their record. And anyone who's not a richmond or collingwood supporter are just going to side with the team they hate the least out of the two.

I'll probably kick myself later for bringing this into but it's just like the Coughlan/Cloke argument all over again.

 

[Portia]

Originally posted by Thrawn
In the end, it comes down to the number of Premierships. Richmond as a club as nothing on Collingwood in terms of success. The only teams that can bag Collingwood in the success stakes are Carlton and Essendon.

And Port Adelaide.

 

[Thrawn]

I hate Collingwood much more than Richmond, but I'm calling it as I see it. You're right TG, this thread is pretty pointless. People will vote for Richmond, but people should see how the poll was set to benefit Richmond's cause. If the poll said "since the beginning of VFL/AFL", people would vote for Collingwood unless they were extemely biased (or Richmond supporters).

 

[Tigers_Goddess]