What's been your club's best 5 year period in history?

[BigVic]

Pies would be from 2007-11 the second half of the Malthouse era

• Finals in every year
• Prelim appearances in 4 out of 5 years
• 3 Grand Final apperances
• Brownlow Medallist
• A premiership in 2010

 

[catstorm]

Pies would be from 2007-11 the second half of the Malthouse era

• Finals in every year
• Prelim appearances in 4 out of 5 years
• 3 Grand Final apperances
• Brownlow Medallist
• A premiership in 2010

I mean really? You guys won 4 in a row and you think the best period in Collingwoods history is one where you made 2 grand finals and lost one?

Geelongs is 7-11 though.

• Made 4 Grand Finals
• Made Prelims every year
• 3 premierships
• 2 Brownlows
• 93-17 record

1950-54 was also a good era but not as good as the one above.

 

[Ocha905]

I wasn't around then but North Melbourne's is clearly 1974-78. Made 5 consecutive GF's (6 including the '77 GF replay) and winning in 1975 and 1977.

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

It's so hard if you want us to condense it down to just a 5 years period...

Brownlow is an individual award. Clubs exist to win Premierships.

More Premierships than Not:
2013-2017 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 12th (missed finals).
2012-2016 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 3rd.
2011-2015 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 3rd.
1988-1992 3 Premierships, 3 GF, lowest finish 5th.
1987-1991 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 5th.
1986-1990 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 5th.
1985-1989 3 Premierships, 5 GF

Two of the greatest era's in history.

Only Premiers 40% of the time: (shouldn't really count, does it?)
2014-2018
2010-2014
1989-1993
1984-1988
1983-1987
1982-1986
1976-1980
1975-1979
1974-1978

 

[Mr Meow]

It's so hard if you want us to condense it down to just a 5 years period...

Brownlow is an individual award. Clubs exist to win Premierships.

More Premierships than Not:
2013-2017 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 12th (missed finals).
2012-2016 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 3rd.
2011-2015 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 3rd.
1988-1992 3 Premierships, 3 GF, lowest finish 5th.
1987-1991 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 5th.
1986-1990 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 5th.
1985-1989 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 3rd.

Two of the greatest era's in history.

Only Premiers 40% of the time: (shouldn't really count, does it?)
2014-2018
2010-2014
1989-1993
1984-1988
1983-1987
1982-1986
1976-1980
1975-1979
1974-1978

Geelong 2007-2011 matched those two bolded eras.

Total games and AA selections won to decide the winner.

Back to back will get used but on 5 year time frames the flag count and finishing places reflect dominance in their own right. Not the order of flags.

 

[Rotayjay]

We had our only two premierships back-to-back in 1997 and 1998, but our ladder finishes in the surrounding years were poor (11th, 11th, 12th, flag, flag, 13th, 11th, 8th). In the 2000s we had a respectable period in the Neil Craig era:

2005 - prelim (minor premiers)
2006 - prelim
2007 - EF
2008 - EF
2009 - semi

But nothing to show for it. We've never had a period of real success for 5 years or more.

 

[jacquizc]

RICHMOND
There have been a few good periods with a couple of back to back premierships or 2 in a few years in the 1920s and again in the 30s, 60s and 70s. Our best era was from 67 to 75; we were dominant back when I was very, very young, but that's 9 years, so for this we have to settle for 2017 to 2020, which is only 4 years but the years before and after those 4 were not stellar.

 

[SC_Power]

Port Adelaide best 5 year streak
2001-2005
H&A 80-1-29.
5 finals series
3 minor premierships
Only 1 flag*

Next best, the last 5 years,
2020-2024
H&A 74-0-33
4 top 3 finishes
Zero GF’s **



* Unfortunately choked a couple of finals
and ran into Brisbane’s 2000-2004 seasons
H&A 76-1-33, 5 finals series, 3 flags

** #Sac#sackken

 

[Hot Dogma]

Collingwoods greatest 5 year period is undoubtedly 1926 -1930.

5 x Grand Finals
4 x Premierships
5 x Minor Premiers
3 x Brownlows Medals (Syd Coventry 1927, Albert Collier 1929 & Harry Collier 1930)
5 x Coleman Medals (Gordon Coventry 1926, 1927, 1928, 1929 & 1930)

 

[Trav 20]

1955 = Flag
1956 = Flag
1957 = Flag
1958 = Runners Up
1959 = Flag

4 flags from 5 Grand Finals, 5 minor premiers, 82 wins - 19 losses, 2 draws at 80% success rate.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Probably Carlton's was 1968 - 1972.

1968 - Premiers
1969 - losing grand finalist
1970 - Premiers
1971 - missed the finals with a 14-8 record
1972 - Premiers

Going into the 1968 season most thought that our esteemed captain and spiritual leader, John Nichols, with five best and fairest to his name might end up without a premiership to his name. Ended up with 3 including one as captain coach.

Hopefully the same thing happens to five time John Nichols best and fairest Patrick Cripps. Would be great to see him captain coach us to a flag in 2029.

 

[hawkman]

It's so hard if you want us to condense it down to just a 5 years period...

Brownlow is an individual award. Clubs exist to win Premierships.

More Premierships than Not:
2013-2017 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 12th (missed finals).
2012-2016 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 3rd.
2011-2015 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 3rd.
1988-1992 3 Premierships, 3 GF, lowest finish 5th.
1987-1991 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 5th.
1986-1990 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 5th.
1985-1989 3 Premierships, 4 GF, lowest finish 3rd.

Two of the greatest era's in history.

Only Premiers 40% of the time: (shouldn't really count, does it?)
2014-2018
2010-2014
1989-1993
1984-1988
1983-1987
1982-1986
1976-1980
1975-1979
1974-1978

1985-1989 is 3 premierships, 5 GF. It is the only period we have with that

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

1985-1989 is 3 premierships, 5 GF. It is the only period we have with that

Ah, yeah. 1985 GF is the reason I follow the Hawks. Pretty bad I didn't remember that.

 

[Freomaniac]

1955 = Flag
1956 = Flag
1957 = Flag
1958 = Runners Up
1959 = Flag

4 flags from 5 Grand Finals, 5 minor premiers, 82 wins - 19 losses, 2 draws at 80% success rate.

You could of traded 1955 for the 1960 flag. Still 4 flags from 5 grand finals.

Also that 1958 grand final loss was only by 18 points

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Geelong 2007-2011 matched those two bolded eras.

Total games and AA selections won to decide the winner.

Back to back will get used but on 5 year time frames the flag count and finishing places reflect dominance in their own right. Not the order of flags.

Come on man, you’ve got to be having a laugh?

Geelong’s inability to back up renders them a runners up to that Hawthorn team/era in both instances.

There’s a reason back to back flags are so revered, and it’s the very reason Geelong haven’t done it, because only the very best sides can get it done again.

And can you stick AA’s where the sun don’t shine too… that’s just concocted claptrap for the media that means nothing.

 

[Mr Meow]

Come on man, you’ve got to be having a laugh?

Geelong’s inability to back up renders them a runners up to that Hawthorn team/era in both instances.

There’s a reason back to back flags are so revered, and it’s the very reason Geelong haven’t done it, because only the very best sides can get it done again.

And can you stick AA’s where the sun don’t shine too… that’s just concocted claptrap for the media that means nothing.

A bit of an angry reply there mate.

"It's the very reason Geelong haven't done it" - what a pathetic reach, your bias is showing through.

That Geelong 5 year period comes out on top in total wins, % and accolades by a long way. Given the 3 premierships and runner up that were shared between the teams, when measuring dominance that's what has the Cats ahead. Different if we talk about a 3 year period, or even 10 (because Hawthorn then have '08). If we stretch it to 20 years in the modern era, it's Geelong, just like it is for 5 years or the 21st century (so far).

Geelong also won all 3 premierships away from its home ground - 1 of them against an MCG tenant. Each premiership in fact involved winning a knockout final against an MCG tenant at that ground. Hawthorn '12-'16 won all 3 premierships on its home ground against interstate teams and even lost a GF to an interstate team. Geelong at least only fumbled a GF to an MCG team at its home ground.

Geelong had more stars players, which indeed was reflected in the amount of All Australian representation. Hawthorn had some great top liners, but a greater amount of role players who were decent (but never best in their position).

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

A bit of an angry reply there mate.

"It's the very reason Geelong haven't done it" - what a pathetic reach, your bias is showing through.

That Geelong 5 year period comes out on top in total wins, % and accolades by a long way. Given the 3 premierships and runner up that were shared between the teams, when measuring dominance that's what has the Cats ahead. Different if we talk about a 3 year period, or even 10 (because Hawthorn then have '08). If we stretch it to 20 years in the modern era, it's Geelong, just like it is for 5 years or the 21st century (so far).

Geelong also won all 3 premierships away from its home ground - 1 of them against an MCG tenant. Each premiership in fact involved winning a knockout final against an MCG tenant at that ground. Hawthorn '12-'16 won all 3 premierships on its home ground against interstate teams and even lost a GF to an interstate team. Geelong at least only fumbled a GF to an MCG team at its home ground.

Geelong had more stars players, which indeed was reflected in the amount of All Australian representation. Hawthorn had some great top liners, but a greater amount of role players who were decent (but never best in their position).

Let me know when they start presenting cups for total wins or AA’s!

It’s about flags. Hawks won 3 of a possible 4, and backed it up twice. Like I said, back to back flags are revered, clubs generally fail to back it up year after year. Only the very best teams can get back there and win it again.

And yeah, when I read utter garbage like “total games win and AA’s will decide it” I call it.

 

[PhatBoy]

Come on man, you’ve got to be having a laugh?

Geelong’s inability to back up renders them a runners up to that Hawthorn team/era in both instances.

There’s a reason back to back flags are so revered, and it’s the very reason Geelong haven’t done it, because only the very best sides can get it done again.

And can you stick AA’s where the sun don’t shine too… that’s just concocted claptrap for the media that means nothing.

I’ve still not seen a single argument as to what makes a team better than another for winning two in two.

If in an infantilised world, two sides met for a fantasy game, and scores were close midway through the last quarter, do you think suddenly one of them would pull away with a couple of goals and the commentators would go ‘well those goals came on the back of their ability to win consecutive premierships rather than going flag-grand final-flag.’

I get why people brag about it; my nrl side who I follow equally as closely as the cats broke a 27 season sequence of it not being done, before Penrith started winning them like it was shelling peas.

But it doesn’t make a side ‘better.’

 

[Mr Meow]

Let me know when they start presenting cups for total wins or AA’s!

It’s about flags. Hawks won 3 of a possible 4, and backed it up twice. Like I said, back to back flags are revered, clubs generally fail to back it up year after year. Only the very best teams can get back there and win it again.

And yeah, when I read utter garbage like “total games win and AA’s will decide it” I call it.

Well they don't present cups for "best 5 year period" either, yet here we are discussing it.

If you are tied on flags and runners up of course you move onto the next relevant criteria. Degree of difficulty, total wins, accolades are all relevant. The order of flags in that 5 year sequence is irrelevant. Beating up on 3 travel scared interstate teams in grand finals is a far more notable factor

Like it or lump it, the Geelong players from that period as a collective are more celebrated. There are more stars and they beat tougher opposition, all in finals away from their home ground. They didn't fumble a grand final at their home ground against an interstate team either (which would be like losing to Port in 2007 if the GF was played in Geelong).

 

[terrybull]

If you are a St.George fan in the NRL you have two equally as good.

1956
1957
1958
1959
1960

and/or

1961
1962
1963
1964
1965

They also won 1966

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I’ve still not seen a single argument as to what makes a team better than another for winning two in two.

If in an infantilised world, two sides met for a fantasy game, and scores were close midway through the last quarter, do you think suddenly one of them would pull away with a couple of goals and the commentators would go ‘well those goals came on the back of their ability to win consecutive premierships rather than going flag-grand final-flag.’

I get why people brag about it; my nrl side who I follow equally as closely as the cats broke a 27 season sequence of it not being done, before Penrith started winning them like it was shelling peas.

But it doesn’t make a side ‘better.’

Only someone living in a fantasy world would not understand why back to back flags carry more weight than a single flag.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Well they don't present cups for "best 5 year period" either, yet here we are discussing it.

If you are tied on flags and runners up of course you move onto the next relevant criteria. Degree of difficulty, total wins, accolades are all relevant. The order of flags in that 5 year sequence is irrelevant. Beating up on 3 travel scared interstate teams in grand finals is a far more notable factor

Like it or lump it, the Geelong players from that period as a collective are more celebrated. There are more stars and they beat tougher opposition, all in finals away from their home ground. They didn't fumble a grand final at their home ground against an interstate team either (which would be like losing to Port in 2007 if the GF was played in Geelong).

This is what you fail to comprehend.

There is no tie, when one team has won a threepeat in 4 straight GF’s and the other hasn’t.

And like I said you can shove AA’s and being “more celebrated”.
AA’s soon meant nothing, when a player could win a B&F in a premiership year and not be in the team.

 

[Sirlemsip]

This is what you fail to comprehend.

There is no tie, when one team has won a threepeat in 4 straight GF’s and the other hasn’t.

And like I said you can shove AA’s and being “more celebrated”.
AA’s soon meant nothing, when a player could win a B&F in a premiership year and not be in the team.

Indeed.

If AA's meant something, then surely in 2008 Geelong with 7 players in the team should have won the GF over Hawthorn who only had 2.
Or how about 2013, when Geelong had 4 players and Hawthorn had 2.

 

[PhatBoy]

Only someone living in a fantasy world would not understand why back to back flags carry more weight than a single flag.

2 flags is better than 1. But two teams winning a different amount of flags isn’t what’s being compared
when two teams win the same amount of flags why the hell does the sequence matter. That’s the point

 

[Tasmanian saint]

I wasn't around then but North Melbourne's is clearly 1974-78. Made 5 consecutive GF's (6 including the '77 GF replay) and winning in 1975 and 1977.

North were a great team in the nineties as well won two premierships but easily could have been 3-4