Whats going on with the China game?

[ManOfClay]

Kochie and port really can't win out of this.

 

[FootyJunkie]

Kochie to go teal in the face.

 

[Buzzasto DaSilva]

Through Koch's arrogance and inability to enforce this "contract", the narrative has been changed from a fantastic story by an innovative club who have actually done brilliantly to change their fortunes through smart marketing and excellent grass-roots efforts (particularly in China but also through their business lunches and work with the Italian community in Adelaide)- to a dislikeable event that is more about one man's belligerence and bullying tactics to script him and his club as being the pioneers of a movement that began well before they started work in China.

Port Adelaide did not invent AFL in China contrary to the belief of many fans and media personnel (ie; Stephen Rowe). They have however marketed it much better from a grass roots level through sponsorship and working with members of the community rather than just using Shanghai as a "cash-grab" or "hit and hope for a home run" as the AFL tried to under Demetriou's reign.

Koch has done amazing things in his time and this China opportunity is something Port Adelaide have worked very hard on over a number of years, but he is in danger of stuffing it up through his conduct to the point where no club will want to work with a president who openly bullies other clubs into scripting his own beliefs as "facts" and "contracts".

 

[Kram]

Kochie is about as threatening as a wet train ticket.

 

[DapperDon]

After all Kochie's moaning, I wonder who'll play GC in China next year?

 

[Garlic muncher]

Who is making the $$ and how much

 

[GreyCrow]

i raise you....

The irony or amusing bit is the building in the background is the Courts Building. I will go with District Court in the City

 

[DazalenkoUBewty]

Through Koch's arrogance and inability to enforce this "contract", the narrative has been changed from a fantastic story by an innovative club who have actually done brilliantly to change their fortunes through smart marketing and excellent grass-roots efforts (particularly in China but also through their business lunches and work with the Italian community in Adelaide)- to a dislikeable event that is more about one man's belligerence and bullying tactics to script him and his club as being the pioneers of a movement that began well before they started work in China.

Port Adelaide did not invent AFL in China contrary to the belief of many fans and media personnel (ie; Stephen Rowe). They have however marketed it much better from a grass roots level through sponsorship and working with members of the community rather than just using Shanghai as a "cash-grab" or "hit and hope for a home run" as the AFL tried to under Demetriou's reign.

Koch has done amazing things in his time and this China opportunity is something Port Adelaide have worked very hard on over a number of years, but he is in danger of stuffing it up through his conduct to the point where no club will want to work with a president who openly bullies other clubs into scripting his own beliefs as "facts" and "contracts".

Bullying?

Maybe if the GC stuck to the agreement we wouldn't have this situation...

 

[GreyCrow]

Bullying?

Maybe if the GC stuck to the agreement we wouldn't have this situation...

What agreement? Even Kochie has gone silent on this 'contract'

 

[BigBen_JRC]

What agreement? Even Kochie has gone silent on this 'contract'

I had a yarn to Kochie earlier, he promised me it's real.just like we promised we didn't use peptides

 

[Struggle]

Will Hinkley have a return ticket? If they are performing like they did last year and end up getting slapped in China, kochie might leave him there.

 

[DazalenkoUBewty]

Will Hinkley have a return ticket? If they are performing like they did last year and end up getting slapped in China, kochie might leave him there.

Are u referring to the slapping GC gave us in round 23??

 

[DazalenkoUBewty]

I had a yarn to Kochie earlier, he promised me it's real.just like we promised we didn't use peptides

Quit needling The Koch. he doesn't deserve to be needled by you.

 

[Tas]

A good negotiator makes good win-win deals and honours the deal they make. A bad negotiator leaves out significant details from the agreement and then tries to bully the other party to make up for their shortcomings.

If he did his job properly and had every requirement in writing then he wouldn't need to be making threats to GC or asking the AFL to intervene.

 

[Beerfish]

Why would you try to make a deal to play a home game in another country knowing you were contracted to play all your home games at a specific place already?

 

[ManOfClay]

Port's china will become North's Friday Night Footy

 

[Tas]

Port's china will become North's Friday Night Footy

It could be. Or even Hawthorn's Tasmania.

The problem is if something becomes more important for the entire competition or if you develop a market you can't commit to it's full potential then the AFL will undermine you.

If GC come out and say we will play 3 games in China from 2018 onward, bang, Port are dead.

 

[Samcro24]

 

[Great8]

there were other clubs wanting in not just GC so im unsure why that matters?

My understanding was that Essendon and North were the only other 2 clubs interested and there is no way we will give up a home game

 

[Great8]

Since when can the home team dictate what guernsey the opposition can wear?
Gold Coast always wear their red and gold guernsey against Port home or away as it doesn't clash so it shouldn't matter if it's Port's home game

 

[PAFCsince1870]

When a few thousand expats rock up and it's a complete flop no one will care either way.

I'm just glad there's an agreement in place that ensures we play eleven games in Adelaide every year or who knows what hare-brained schemes our management might have come up with.

 

[Janus]

It could be. Or even Hawthorn's Tasmania.

The problem is if something becomes more important for the entire competition or if you develop a market you can't commit to it's full potential then the AFL will undermine you.

If GC come out and say we will play 3 games in China from 2018 onward, bang, Port are dead.

Who's gonna bankroll it? They can't even bring one Chinese company to the table to help cover the cost of putting the game on. How many relationships have they cultivated over there? Zero.

How many Chinese companies have the AFL brought to the table? Zero.

Meanwhile Port Adelaide has AusGold, Shanghai CRED and Cathay Pacific, as well as partnerships with the Hong Kong Football Club (where Port Adelaide members have reciprocal rights mind you), CCTV and schools across Shanghai and Guangzhou.

Neither the AFL nor Gold Coast have any power at all in China. This was built on the back of relationships and doing things like sponsoring Team China to enable them to travel to participate in the International Cup. They'll try to use Mark Evans to hijack the Suns into being 'China's team' through the introductions he would have made through being the AFL's representative in dealing with organizing the match, but it won't work because that's not how you do business in China.

It's not like Australia where money is the most important thing - friendships and partnerships are.

 

[GreyCrow]

Neither the AFL nor Gold Coast have any power at all in China.

Oh ffs stop lying

Tony Cochrane and Supercars

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Port's china will become North's Sydney

Fixed

 

[DapperDon]

It's not like Australia where money is the most important thing - friendships and partnerships are.

China's long standing friendship with Port Adelaide is certainly up there with the likes of Ross & Chandler, JFK & Sinatra and Hamlet & Horatio.