Game Day What's left .... Rookie spots?

[osaka mick]

Any draft guru's know what was missed in the main draft, and what we might be picking up?

How many picks do we have, and what sort of player would we look at? I suspect some mids, as we seem to have stockpiled our KP players for the time being, and ruck division. Our depth looks pretty good across the board.

Fordham is one we keep, so what does that leave?

Who are the players that missed the main draft we could possibly get our hands on?

 

[tazaa]

2 spots left.

 

[giantroo]

2 spots left.

Nope still 3 selections. Jeffries is a B class rookie so he is not included.

 

[Harris 10]

Brayshaw, Gunker, Sproule, Scharenberg

Who else is left?

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Still available:

Jonty Scharenberg
Tyson Stengle
Kym Lebois
Ben Jarman
Tony Olango
Jeremy Goddard
Peter Ladhams
Zac Sproule
Sam Walker
Taylin Duman
Cam Zuhaar
Hamish Brayshaw
Oscar Junker
Luke Bunker
Alex Villis
Max Lynch
Zach Guthrie
Noah Hura
Judah Dundon
Jaime Hampton

 

[Roo Beauty]

Barrett, Scharenberg or LeBois would be nice gets.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Stengle or LeBois would be perfect rookie picks.

 

[hiddink]

When is the rookie draft on?


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[giantroo]

When is the rookie draft on?


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Monday at 4pm

 

[Harris 10]

Still available:

Jonty Scharenberg
Tyson Stengle
Kym Lebois
Ben Jarman
Tony Olango
Jeremy Goddard
Peter Ladhams
Zac Sproule
Sam Walker
Taylin Duman
Cam Zuhaar
Hamish Brayshaw
Oscar Junker
Luke Bunker
Alex Villis
Max Lynch
Zach Guthrie
Noah Hura
Judah Dundon
Jaime Hampton

Either of the two Jets boys would be good.

What are your thoughts on Wilson Berry from the Jets, I think he could be a good rookie selection.

 

[dus]

Why has Jarman gone so cold?

 

[Kimbo]

Junker, Bunker & Dundon for me.
= 'The Firm.'

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Either of the two Jets boys would be good.

What are your thoughts on Wilson Berry from the Jets, I think he could be a good rookie selection.

I like him as a rookie pick but there is probably better value out there with the picks above. Always like his strong hands and kicking. Bit inconsistent finding the pill though.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Why has Jarman gone so cold?

Inconsistent and a small frame I'd say. He is a very smooth moving a skilled played but doesn't get his hands on it enough

 

[Harris 10]

I like him as a rookie pick but there is probably better value out there with the picks above. Always like his strong hands and kicking. Bit inconsistent finding the pill though.

Even at our 3rd selection you still think better options will be avaialable?

 

[giantroo]

Tassie AFL Draft hopefuls left out in the cold with hopes now resting on Rookie Draft

JAMES BRESNEHAN, Mercury

IT was a history making night for Tasmania at the AFL Draft in Sydney – but for all the wrong reasons.

For the first time since the inaugural draft in 1986, no Tasmanian player was picked by at AFL club.

The AFL Rookie Draft is on Monday and the hope is a Tasmanian such as VFL players Matt Hanson (Werribee), Brody Mihocek (Port Melbourne) and Robbie Fox (Coburg) might get named.

“I would like to think we’ll get someone rookied but I’m not confident,” said Tasmania’s high performance manager Mathew Armstrong.

“I just haven’t had the phone calls and interest from recruiters that I normally get.

“They don’t miss much, They try to find out as much information as they can and I haven’t had any calls, and that’s all I can go on.”

Armstrong was drafted by North Melbourne in 1986.

“We’re not happy about this year, that’s for sure,” he said.

“But look at it this way. We only played three games in the TAC Cup and we don’t have an AFL academy.

“We have improved that for next year with six or seven games for our under-18 boys and two games for our under-17 boys.

“We’ve had 16 taken in the past four years so our record has been pretty good but we had injuries to our better players this year and not enough games to show off our boys.”

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Even at our 3rd selection you still think better options will be avaialable?

From the list I posted there is probably 10-15 players who I would prefer. But if they are all gone and we don't go with a mature age prospect he'd be a good final rookie prospect.

 

[Hojuman]

Don't know what we'd do without you G.R.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Tassie AFL Draft hopefuls left out in the cold with hopes now resting on Rookie Draft

JAMES BRESNEHAN, Mercury

IT was a history making night for Tasmania at the AFL Draft in Sydney – but for all the wrong reasons.

For the first time since the inaugural draft in 1986, no Tasmanian player was picked by at AFL club.

The AFL Rookie Draft is on Monday and the hope is a Tasmanian such as VFL players Matt Hanson (Werribee), Brody Mihocek (Port Melbourne) and Robbie Fox (Coburg) might get named.

“I would like to think we’ll get someone rookied but I’m not confident,” said Tasmania’s high performance manager Mathew Armstrong.

“I just haven’t had the phone calls and interest from recruiters that I normally get.

“They don’t miss much, They try to find out as much information as they can and I haven’t had any calls, and that’s all I can go on.”

Armstrong was drafted by North Melbourne in 1986.

“We’re not happy about this year, that’s for sure,” he said.

“But look at it this way. We only played three games in the TAC Cup and we don’t have an AFL academy.

“We have improved that for next year with six or seven games for our under-18 boys and two games for our under-17 boys.

“We’ve had 16 taken in the past four years so our record has been pretty good but we had injuries to our better players this year and not enough games to show off our boys.”

Nic dodge was rated quite highly 18 months ago but nobody seems to rank him now.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Another couple that didn't get picked up:

Bailey Banfield
Luke Strandica
Jarrod Korewha
Steven Slimming
Tye Bedford
Mitchell Hinge

 

[giantroo]

The Age draft guru Emma Quayle has identified some of the players that may get picked up in Monday's rookie draft.


Not everyone can get picked up in the national draft, and there's always a player or two that slide through to the next stage of drafting.

Quayle, speaking on Triple M's Dead Set Legends, noted a couple.

"It'll be interesting to see whether Essendon take Xavier Richards," she said.

Richards, who has been training with Essendon, was let go by the Swans after seeking a move home.

"They've obviously had him out and had a look at him."

Another forward may be called out as Hawthorn look likely to re-rookie Jack Fitzpatrick, according to Quayle.

"I think they will (rookie him)," she suggested.

"They're sort of indicated that, haven't they, that they'd bring him back in, so that seems like it's a big chance to happen."

There was one kid Quayle pointed out that slipped all the way through.

"Matt Scharenberg's younger brother Jonty (is one)," she noted.

"There's actually some really good kids that didn't get drafted, which tells you a bit about the strength of the draft...there could be some good players to come out of it."

 

[giantroo]

Here’s everything you need to know ahead of the two drafts.

WHEN ARE THEY HELD?

BOTH the 2017 Pre-Season Draft and 2017 Rookie Draft will be held on Monday 28 November from 4PM AEDT.

While held in 2016, naming conventions and scheduling of previous pre-season and rookie drafts mean they are titled as the drafts for 2017.

Neither draft will be televised, with foxfooty.com.au providing live coverage of the picks as they happen online.

HOW DO THEY WORK?

EVERY club is connected via a conference call and a computer screen that is administered from AFL headquarters.

The computer will log each selection in real time.

Clubs will be granted two minutes for each selection and will have one opportunity to ask for extra time, as per the national draft guidelines.

THE PRE-SEASON DRAFT

THE 2017 pre-season draft will start first at 4PM on Monday 28 November.

The pre-season draft is an extension of the national draft, so all players taken must go onto the club’s primary list.

However the introduction of free agency has somewhat diminished the importance of the pre-season draft. It is for uncontracted players to nominate that missed the national draft or any players who were delisted after the main draft.

It would be somewhat of a surprise if one or more players are taken in the pre-season draft.

For 2017, all clubs must have between 38 and 40 senior listed players. However the only clubs that are eligible to participate in the pre-season draft are those who are yet to fill their list with the maximum of 40 players.

Notable past pre-season selections include Kurt Tippett (2012), Bachar Houli (2011), Ben Cousins (2009), Eddie Betts (2005) and Nick Stevens (2004).

The most recent pre-season draft selection was Jason Tutt (Carlton) in the 2014 draft, while Jed Lamb (GWS) was taken in the 2013 draft.

THE ROOKIE DRAFT

BETWEEN the final pre-season draft selection and first rookie draft pick, clubs with academies or potential father-son selections have the ability to select those players, without fear of another club outbidding them. In other words, there is no bidding system.

The order for the rookie draft is the reverse of the AFL ladder at the end of the finals series.

There are different rookie categories:

— Category A rookies are primarily players who have had a traditional Australian football development

— Category B rookies are players from non-traditional recruiting backgrounds, such as former middle distance runner and current Geelong player Mark Blicavs.

Each club is permitted to recruit up to three category B rookies and between four and six category A rookies.

International, father-son or category B rookies who have already been signed (such as GWS signed and former Commonwealth Games decathlete Jake Stein), will still have their name read out with the club’s last pick of the rookie draft.

Many players have been given promises by clubs to be selected in the rookie draft, such as Ben Jarman — the son of Adelaide and Hawthorn great Darren — who the Crows will select if he is not taken in the pre-season draft, which is unlikely.

At the conclusion of the rookie draft, each club must have filled its senior and rookie list as there will be no more opportunities to sign players before the 2016 season.

WHAT TYPE OF PLAYER IS TAKEN IN THE ROOKIE DRAFT?

THERE are multiple snubbed draftees who are likely to receive rookie lifelines.

Jonty Scharenberg, the brother of Collingwood defender Matthew, was overlooked in the national draft despite being rated by some as a top 25 pick going into the night.

Mature age recruits such as Jye Bolton (Claremont, WAFL), Liam Ryan (Subiaco, WAFL), Brett Eddy (South Adelaide, SANFL) and Michael Gibbons (Williamstown, VFL) are also contenders.

Notable players from last season’s rookie draft included Tom Papley (Sydney Swans, 20 games), Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti (Essendon, 21 games) and Tom Ruggles (Geelong Cats, 18 games).

Crows Charlie Cameron (Pick 7, 2014) and Rory Laird (Pick 5, 2012), Swan Dane Rampe (Pick 37, 2013), Cat Mark Blicavs (Pick 54, 2012) and Bulldogs Luke Dahlhaus (Pick 22, 2011) and Jason Johannisen (Pick 39, 2011) are arguably the best rookie draft selections of the last few years.

REVERSE LADDER ORDER

Nb: The rookie draft will proceed in this order over several rounds with some exceptions based on number of list spots available.

1. Essendon

2. Brisbane Lions

3. Fremantle

4. Gold Coast Suns

5. Carlton

6. Richmond

7. Collingwood

8. Melbourne

9. Port Adelaide

10. St Kilda

11. North Melbourne

12. West Coast Eagles

13. Adelaide Crows

14. Hawthorn

15. GWS Giants

16. Geelong Cats

17. Sydney Swans

18. Western Bulldogs

 

[giantroo]

Liam Ryan is still available.

 

[Groucho]

Liam Ryan is still available.

Yes. From all reports a very exciting player. You'd expect Freo or West Coast to take him.

 

[giantroo]

We profile 16 aspiring AFL players who were overlooked at the national draft, yet could score an AFL lifeline during Monday’s pre-season or rookie drafts.

Jonty Scharenberg (Glenelg)

The younger brother of Collingwood’s Matt was arguably the most unlucky to miss the national draft cut on Friday night. While there has been a question mark over his kicking — he believes it has improved dramatically this season — Scharenberg is a gun inside ball magnet who has already impressed at senior SANFL level. He won All-Australian honours after an excellent national carnival for South Australia, averaging 24 disposals, 10 contested possessions, five clearances and six tackles per game. Will definitely be picked up as a rookie, but really should’ve been drafted straight onto a senior list.

Zach Sproule (Murray Bushrangers/GWS Academy prospect)

Ask this kid to play anywhere and he’ll do it — and do it well. A popular figure among all the teams he’s represented in 2016, Sproule has shown off his versatility throughout the season. He was excellent as a key back for the Murray Bushrangers in the TAC Cup but just as impressive up forward in the two national carnivals, booting seven goals for NSW-ACT (Division 2) and six for the Allies (Division 2). Sproule bases his game off Nick Riewoldt and has a flawless set-shot routine. Was attached to the GWS Academy, but that won’t matter in the rookie draft.

Louis Cunningham (Oakleigh Chargers)

An exciting runner with a beautiful left-foot kick, Cunningham deserves an opportunity to develop on an AFL club’s rookie list. He impressed throughout 2016, averaging 19 disposals 12 uncontested possessions and six marks per outing as an outside midfielder. Cunningham is a line-breaker and a game-breaker — and deserves a gig.

Bailey Morrish (Dandenong Stingrays)

Any other year and Morrish probably would’ve been picked up on Friday night. But due to the wide array of mid-sized defenders in this year’s class, the Stingray missed out. In his first year in the TAC Cup, Morrish impressed in his 16 matches, averaging 13 disposals and 3.5 rebounds per game. After playing in the Under 18 All-Stars game, he further enhanced his prospects at the national draft combine, showing off his elite athleticism to finish among the top 10 in the repeat sprint, 20m sprint and the three vertical jump tests. Definitely deserves a rookie spot.

Luke Bunker (Northern Knights)

Didn’t receive too much interest from AFL clubs ahead of the national draft but a strong chance to be rookied. Bunker is one of Champion Data’s favourites thanks to his ability to consistently rack up the footy. An inside midfielder with a knack for clearing the ball, Bunker was constantly at the top of the stats sheet for both Vic Metro (22 disposals, 10 contested possessions) and Northern Knights (28 disposals, 12 contested possessions and six clearances) in 2016. He has a ready-made AFL frame in the Matt Priddis mould and should be picked up on Monday.

Taylin Duman (Oakleigh Chargers)

A big reason behind the Chargers’ deep push into the 2016 TAC Cup finals campaign, Duman is a creative and intelligent defender that provides great rebound. He was named in the competition’s team of the year after averaging 20 disposals, seven handball receives and five marks per game, while also playing a key role in Vic Metro’s successful national carnival campaign by averaging 15 touches.

Kym LeBois (North Adelaide)

If you get a chance to catch a glimpse of LeBois’ 2016 highlight reel, you’ll be blown away. The nephew of Alwyn and Aaron Davey, LeBois is a quick, agile small forward with terrific footy nous and goal sense. He averaged 86 Champion Data ranking points for North Adelaide in the SANFL under 18s this year. LeBois uses the ball well, too, finishing among the top 10 in the kicking test at the national combine.

Mitch Hinge (Glenelg)

Poised and polished off halfback, but Hinge has proven throughout the year that he can play anywhere on the field. He seems best suited to a defensive role thanks to his accurate kicking and intercept ability, however. Was one of South Australia’s most consistent national carnival performers, averaging 13.5 disposals per game, while he also played in the Under 18 All-Stars game on Grand Final eve.

Ben Jarman (North Adelaide)

While many were surprised the son of Crows/Hawks great Darren wasn’t picked up on Friday night, Jarman looms as the perfect rookie pick for any AFL club ahead of the 2017 season. While he takes after his father in terms of his silky ball use, clean hands and footy nous, Jarman still needs plenty of physical development before making an impact at AFL level. Hence why two years on an AFL rookie list looms as an excellent option for a club. The Crows said late on Friday night that they were committed to picking up Jarman as a rookie, provided he wasn’t selected in the pre-season draft — which would be an excellent result for all parties.

Alex Villis (Norwood)

He might be thinly built, but Villis’ ability to explode allows him to provide great run and carry out of defence. Villis won All-Australian honours earlier this year after averaging 15 disposals and 262 metres gained — the equal fourth-most of any defender — at the Under 18 champs.

Sam Walker (Glenelg)

Certainly a surprise national draft omission, falling behind several other key defensive prospects. A mid-sized, rebounding defender that distributes cleanly, Walker had an excellent Under 18 carnival that earnt him All-Australian honours, averaging 15 touches at 83 per cent disposal efficiency. In particular, he starred against Vic Metro at Etihad Stadium with 21 disposals, seven rebounds and a kicking efficiency of 100 per cent. Just as good one-on-one defensively as he is with the ball in hand.

Jye Bolton (Claremont)

A hard-running ball magnet that can either play as an inside or outside midfielder, Bolton couldn’t have done much more in 2016 to boost his draft hopes. His decision to cross over to the WAFL as a mature-age recruit in an attempt to boost his draft prospects paid dividends, finishing the season as the league’s standout player for the season. The 24-year-old won the Sandover Medal as the competition’s best and fairest player, as well as Claremont’s best and fairest, a spot in the WAFL team of the year and the Simpson medal after his two-goal, 46-disposal game in WA’s 134-point state game victory over Tasmania. Over the last 10 games of the WAFL season, Bolton averaged 35 touches and 10 clearances per game.

Liam Ryan (Subiaco)

After beginning the season in the WAFL reserves, Ryan elevated to the seniors — and thrived, taking several high-flying marks and booting 40 goals from 16 games. The most impressive aspect about his scoreboard return was that he booted at least one goal in every match. The 20-year-old’s average of 2.5 goals per game was the second most of anyone in the WAFL. An exciting forward that plays the game on instinct but also makes great decisions in the clutch, especially by foot, Ryan would be an exciting pick-up.

Brett Eddy (South Adelaide)

The mature-age mid-sized forward attracted the interest of Port Adelaide after three outstanding seasons with South Adelaide. The 27-year-old wasn’t picked up in the national draft, but is almost certain to go in the rookie draft, potentially to the Power but less likely after they snared Todd Marshall with their first selection on Friday night. A 193cm mobile forward, Eddy kicked 74 goals this year, backing up hauls of 61 and 42 majors in his first two years in the SANFL. He’s a good mark on the lead and is an accurate set-shot in front of goal.

Michael Gibbons (Williamstown VFL)

A gun ball magnet that has run out of things to achieve, Gibbons was officially the best player in the VFL. He won the JJ Liston Trophy — the VFL’s equivalent of the Brownlow Medal — in September following a stunning individual season, where he accumulated more disposals, uncontested possessions and inside 50s than any other VFL player, while also ranking No. 3 for total clearances and No. 4 for total contested possessions. After averaging 30 touches and seven clearances per outing this season, Gibbons deserves a gig on an AFL list — senior or rookie — more than most VFL players.

Rowan Marshall (North Ballarat VFL)

A 203cm big man from New Zealand with a rugby background, Marshall was one of the most versatile and unique VFL prospects ahead of November’s drafts. He missed out on selection in his draft year (2014), but has developed significantly in the VFL over the past two years. Marshall averaged 15.4 disposals — the second most of any ruckman in the VFL. He also averaged 11 hit-outs and five intercepts per match. He’s competitive in the ruck and an interceptor down back — a unique combination but one that potentially appeals to AFL recruiters.