Movie What's the last movie you saw? (4)

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Stories We Tell (2012) - I'm usually pretty impressed by most things i've seen that has anything to do with Sarah Polly and this is quite a good documentary effort chronicling events through interview, reenactment and homevideo about her enigmatic mother and family dynamic. Her father is the star of this piece. 7.5/10
 

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DC has its own share of duds but I'd argue their hit rate is better - and when they've been done well, they've achieved something that the Marvel films haven't yet come close to. Singer's Superman, Burton's Batman, Nolan's The Dark Knight and Snyder's Watchmen weren't just smash hits - they're iconic films.
I'm certainly not going to argue that Marvel have had duds but I will argue this; the Superman Returns and Watchmen part anyway. Looking at raw figures both films did decent box office. But neither, and especially SR, performed as well as Warner Bros. hoped. Superman Returns coasted on the Superman name for a while but the public just weren't that into it. The Watchmen dropped off dramatically after a decent opening, with most people not really on board with the whole idea of the film. I'm not really sure how either could be called iconic, or anything even close to that. WM will have a continued fanbase amongst people like myself (and presumably you), who were either fans of the graphic novel or just really enjoyed a different take on the genre. And SR was well liked by critics, but quickly forgotten by the public, with the franchise already being rebooted.

I also can't argue that Marvel have any films that could be classed as iconic, as TDK is. I enjoy X2 and Iron Man as much as TDK, but I don't think I'd say either is as good a film. But the recent glut of Avengers-related Marvel movies have been of a high quality and adding them to the first two X-Men films, the first two Spider-Man films and the first two Blade films, I think they're sitting comfortably ahead of DC right now.
 
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Marvel has had more quality, DC has had better quality.

Marvels good ones- Blade (and 2), X-Men (2 and the reboot, Last Stand was awful), Spider-Man (and 2, 3 was awful), Iron Man (and argurably 2 and 3), Thor (and 2), Captain America and the Avengers. Spider Man and the Avengers were probably two of the most influential superhero movies with what the gave studios the confidence to do.

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DC good ones- Superman and Man of Steel, Batman (and Returns), Batman Begins franchise, Watchmen. Superman (the original) was influential and the Begins franchise was as well.

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Marvel has more hits though and IMO a better stable of characters. DC has Dark Knight which trumps all.

Batman is probably the best character overall, Superman is easily the dullest IMO.
 

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Sorry I meant Donner, not Singer. The original Superman is a classic. Watchmen is an iconic movie, it is has far more substance and depth than any Marvel film. It was divisive but given the subject matter that was always going to be the case. Those four films are IMO easily the best comic book movies ever made. Easily.

Marvel's strike rate is getting much better. The formula they've hit on with the Avengers films (good casting + shallow action plot + hefty dose of humour) is working pretty well at producing reliably watchable popcorn flicks. But it's not going to produce particularly great films.

Whoever is making the decisions for DC on their properties, they seem more willing to give the directors flexibility to make the type of film they want to make. Whilst sometimes it works out terribly, it usually means the films are more ambitious. I will be interested to see if this changes over the next few years, as they start to ramp up their number of films to Marvel levels.
 

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just on thor 2 - when the dark elves, who are highly skilled warriors, hit earth how do they become impotent fighters? jane and the scientist easily run away and evade them/their lasers.
 
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just on thor 2 - when the dark elves, who are highly skilled warriors, hit earth how do they become impotent fighters? jane and the scientist easily run away and evade them/their lasers.
By the power of Odins beard!!!! Seriously, all the suspension of disbelief that movie requires and THATS what threw you?
 

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Sorry I meant Donner, not Singer. The original Superman is a classic. Watchmen is an iconic movie, it is has far more substance and depth than any Marvel film. It was divisive but given the subject matter that was always going to be the case. Those four films are IMO easily the best comic book movies ever made. Easily.

Marvel's strike rate is getting much better. The formula they've hit on with the Avengers films (good casting + shallow action plot + hefty dose of humour) is working pretty well at producing reliably watchable popcorn flicks. But it's not going to produce particularly great films.

Whoever is making the decisions for DC on their properties, they seem more willing to give the directors flexibility to make the type of film they want to make. Whilst sometimes it works out terribly, it usually means the films are more ambitious. I will be interested to see if this changes over the next few years, as they start to ramp up their number of films to Marvel levels.

This is all very true, I feel DC are in the market for more epics and classics (Dark Knight and Man of Steel, which to be honest I wasn't a fan of) while Marvel are enjoying their action with a simple plot linking together epic scenes to wow the audience (see Iron Man 3 barrel of monkeys sequence and Avengers New York shenanigans).

Which is doing it better? Who knows.

I do think this though, Marvel seem to be really picking it up. Ever since they opened Marvel Studios and have stopped selling their IP's to places like Fox (see X-men, Spiderman, Fantastic 4, Daredevil *shudders*, not sure if F4 it is Fox owned however) and handling the content themselves (with the help of Disney) they have been going from strength to strength. Other than Iron Man 2 which was average in most people’s eyes, the Marvel films focusing on the Avengers cast is a far stronger product than the Spiderman, F4, X-men franchises that are being handled by Fox at the moment. They can make their own movie and not be constricted by another company suggesting or deciding on different casting/plot devices, Marvel are playing by Marvels rules. They live and die by their own sword now, which is what is best for their movies going into the future.

Switch to DC now, who after 3 widely successful Batman films, Watchmen, a film which is popular but also has its detractors, one terrible Green Lantern film and have now moved onto Superman. The first movie seemed solid enough and now this Superman / Batman film in 2015. DC are obviously (through comics and now translating into movies) more gritty, adult based, plot driven universes, whereas the Marvel movies as suggested above are a lot of action with simple plots to follow. DC do the plot driven focus so well, Watchmen was a look from another angle at the genre of 'Superhero' while Batman was a dark adaptation of 'The Caped Crusader', and his struggles of accepting his role in the world as the protector it needs. DC do that so well. Their mistake was trying to do a Marvel film in 'Green Lantern'. Wise quipping Ryan Reynolds as the protagonist, attempted one liners, the attempt of adding humour. It doesn't really suit the cinematic DC universe, DC need to stick to, and hate to use this phrase again 'plot driven' movies.


Both do something different, and you know what, they do them so well. It is so hard to compare. What's better? What's worse? It is, always has been and always will be in the eyes of the movie goer of the public.
 
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Just saw the councilor. Found my self just staring at the screen for the most part. Not sure if it was the movie was boring or I'm just tired or what. It ended quite suddenly too IMO (again, I think I was just staring at the screen not really taking it in). Trailer made it look a lot better than it was.

Really looking forward to others opinions on this. Might be one I have to see again...
 

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Elysium: decent idea for a movie and was generally ok. Probably not as good as i thought it was going to be but still decent enough movie. South Africans are perfect as villains.
 
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