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Spectre.....done and dusted.

I actually really loved this movie. Unlike other Bond/Spy movies. Apart from the hectic, breath-taking opening scene, the film was a slow burner -- a lot of long or intricate scenes, lots of talking, engagement of various characters with each other back and forth, like a mental game of musical chairs. The movie had me gripped on that mental level, trying to understand and pick apart little details. Whereas usual Bond/Spy movies is a ballet of action scenes.

The only issues I had with this film that hurt it.....the CGI took a step back from Skyfall.....and the movie lost that sense of credibility and realism it built for 2 hrs once Bond found a way to escape from that torture chair. At the moment on, the movie opted to suddenly revert back to being a typical Bond movie, of easy escape at the point of certain death, of shooting and killing with a single bullet 3,479 enemies many of whom were half a mile away, then escaping yet another capture in the armored truck, and escaping yet another certain death with the demolishing building, but worse, miraculously Madeleine being right there in a room at the very last place he ended up....he was screaming your name for two minutes standing right there at the door so why did you wait so long before calling back? Not like there was some weird time delay going on, hes standing right there at the door FFS. But it gets worse.....they escape in a boat from under the exploding building when there was only 40 seconds left when he finished untying you.....******* hell, it would take 3 minutes to run from the middle of the building to the basement area, and another 5 minutes just to get a boat engine to start. Let alone an old decommissioned boat. Roaring out the basement area thru fire and falling building....even tho the explosive devices were all detonating at the basement. And how did the villain even get a whole building rigged with such explosives in the few hours it took him to escape his own miraculous survival in the desert when that whole facility blew up like an atomic bomb a mere minute after hed been blown to bits/unconsciousness from the exploding watch??? Anyway, while riding across the Thames Bond manages to shoot a military grade chopper down with a little pistol.....sheesh.

After 2 hrs of great slow burning drama, the whole thing is ruined over the final 10-20 minutes with a string of absurd overdone typical old Bond sh*t.

Another thing i dobt buy is how quickly the uber cold and detached Madeleine falls in love with Bond, and Bond likewise. Already in this Craig era of Bond hes hopelessly fallen in love with three or four women hes only met and known for a day or two. Such a marshmallow. And if he spent more than five minutes with the other women he bedded hed probably have fallen in love with them too. How can you write such movies being prototypical old Connery/etc Bond whilst also making him such a pushover for love? Hes a cold-hearted ruthless assassin, uses and abuses.

I could probably find a lot more to complain about ...better end this rant, bored you all already.

Bottom line is....i loved Spectre despite all those complaints, but the complaints stopped me short of really loving it.

Oh, one last thing....really like how all these Craig Bond movies are connected, actual sequels to each other, the movie after picking the story up right from the end of the previous movie, same villains and other characters....like a Star Wars trilogy. Whereas old Bonds were random unconnected all-new events and villains.

So far i have it ...

Tier One.....Skyfall
Tier Two....Casino Royale, Spectre
Tier Forty-Eight.....Quantum of Solace
Good review, a few extra comments. With Spectre they went a little over the top with what realistically anyone could expect to escape from/survive and done this not once, but three times. In relation to Bond falling remarkably hopelessly in love in a few days, this was obviously to portray that Bond is no longer a misogynistic/ladies man/shag anything that's looks good, type character...

BTW, my ranking of the DC/JB movie era:
Casino Royale
<daylight>
No Time To Die
Skyfall
Spectre
<daylight>
Quantum of Solace
 

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Shackleton's Captain (2012)

A dramatisation/documentary of the voyage of the Endurance to Antarctica, where the crew aimed to be the first to cross the continent by foot from one side to the other via the South Pole.

Pioneers/explorers are right up the top of the list of people from history I admire/respect. Venturing through the world's roughest seas to go to inhospitable Antarctica - even more so.

On Amazon Prime, this simple movie with basic production values is a great way to spend 80 minutes, especially if like me, you don't know the story of Shackleton and the Endurance. Told from the point of view of the enthusiastic Captain, Frank Worsely, we learn how their ship got stuck in ice, and with ice currents slowly damaging the ship, the crew were forced to abandon it.

What follows is a series of adventures and misadventures that leaves you admiring these men even more. What they had to put up with is incredible. This all happening while WW1 was on - so their plight fell on unsympathetic ears back in London. They were truly on their own.

We know from the outset that Worsely survives, as the movie format is of him, in a suit, regaling a small audience with the story of his adventure after the fact, with dramatisations of the events, as well as some real footage/photography and some interviews with historians interspersed.

It's no masterpiece, but it's one of those true stories that you have to hear/see at least once in your lifetime I recon.

3 stars.
 

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*** MUST-SEE DOCUMENTARY ALERT!!!! *** *** MUST-SEE DOCUMENTARY ALERT!!!! *** *** MUST-SEE DOCUMENTARY ALERT!!!! ***

Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup (2009)

An explosive, searing documentary that eviscerates the World Trade Centre investigation presented by the NIST, establishing beyond doubt that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were a false flag operation orchestrated by a fascist totalitarian regime... (or at least what the director Dylan Avery would have you believe).

In actual fact, An American Coup (the fourth of six revisions, released two years after the rather incompetently named The Final Cut), functions instead as a fascinating insight into how easily manipulated and weak-minded the average "free-thinking" Conspiracy Theorist really is.

The film begins with a 15 minute montage of unrelated and irrelevant historical facts, simplifying events such as the Reichstag Fire in 1933 Germany to establish that every single government now and forever in every territory in the world will of course kill their own citizens to further their own ends (whatever they are).

Once this is established, the case for the 9/11 attacks as a false flag operation is constructed via a breathless, unremitting assault of rhetorical questions, dubious first-hand accounts, archival news footage, the occasional random (but completely uncontextualized) fact, and flat out lies, some of which the director claimed were intentionally included "so that people discredit us and do the research for themselves" (seriously). The sheer amount of information hurled at the viewer, and the pace with which the film burns through it's poorly-constructed case, ensures it is near impossible to think too deeply about any of the information presented, an astute decision considering how flimsy some of the contentions actually are ("Why did none of the hijacked planes target the Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida?").

Perhaps fearing the possibility that the rumour, innuendo, superstition, and intellectual dishonesty presented thus far may have failed, Avery closes the film- unbelievably- by insulting the viewer, aggressively suggesting they are nothing more than an even-toed ungulate, and complicit in, and potentially even responsible for, the 9/11 attacks, if they have not at this point been entirely convinced by the arguments the film has presented. Viva la Revolution!

I am a little concerned that Stan have this on their streaming service, but also somewhat disappointed the extended, two hour Final Cut with Alex Jones serving as the Executive Producer is not..?

I give this film :sheep::sheep::sheep::sheep:.
You watched it so we didn't have to. You, sir, are the true hero.
 

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Good review, a few extra comments. With Spectre they went a little over the top with what realistically anyone could expect to escape from/survive and done this not once, but three times. In relation to Bond falling remarkably hopelessly in love in a few days, this was obviously to portray that Bond is no longer a misogynistic/ladies man/shag anything that's looks good, type character...

BTW, my ranking of the DC/JB movie era:
Casino Royale
<daylight>
No Time To Die
Skyfall
Spectre
<daylight>
Quantum of Solace
Havent seen on time to die but your ranking is as per mine.

FWIW the fan theory that Bond is lobotomised in THAT scene in Spectre makes the rest of the film infinitely more watchable.
 

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Shackleton's Captain (2012)

A dramatisation/documentary of the voyage of the Endurance to Antarctica, where the crew aimed to be the first to cross the continent by foot from one side to the other via the South Pole.

Pioneers/explorers are right up the top of the list of people from history I admire/respect. Venturing through the world's roughest seas to go to inhospitable Antarctica - even more so.

On Amazon Prime, this simple movie with basic production values is a great way to spend 80 minutes, especially if like me, you don't know the story of Shackleton and the Endurance. Told from the point of view of the enthusiastic Captain, Frank Worsely, we learn how their ship got stuck in ice, and with ice currents slowly damaging the ship, the crew were forced to abandon it.

What follows is a series of adventures and misadventures that leaves you admiring these men even more. What they had to put up with is incredible. This all happening while WW1 was on - so their plight fell on unsympathetic ears back in London. They were truly on their own.

We know from the outset that Worsely survives, as the movie format is of him, in a suit, regaling a small audience with the story of his adventure after the fact, with dramatisations of the events, as well as some real footage/photography and some interviews with historians interspersed.

It's no masterpiece, but it's one of those true stories that you have to hear/see at least once in your lifetime I recon.

3 stars.
Totally agree and I thought this was an excellent watch of a true story. Can’t but imagine how one would cope being in that predicament.
 
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I'm in the middle of No Time To Die right now.....but i was thinking.....theres potential for the franchise and the Bond Universe to create movies around other Double-O characters never seen before. You got a whole eight other possible characters you could do movies on, and maybe even a Marvel-like thing where they interact or team up in future movies.

Surprised no ones ever thought about this before??
 

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I'm in the middle of No Time To Die right now.....but i was thinking.....theres potential for the franchise and the Bond Universe to create movies around other Double-O characters never seen before. You got a whole eight other possible characters you could do movies on, and maybe even a Marvel-like thing where they interact or team up in future movies.

Surprised no ones ever thought about this before??
Oh, they certainly have. Amazon just paid $8.45 million for the rights to MGM's library, which includes Bond. But the catch is they only own half of the Bond franchise and the original producers will still have veto rights over when a Bond film gets made, who plays him and whether there will be any spin-offs.
 

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No Time To Die.....done.

It was ok. Neither bad nor great. Certainly entertaining and not a waste of time. But it definitely wasnt a Bond movie. It was like a romantic action movie. It was a.....

....send off. A eulogy. I think they really f’ed up here. Why kill off James Bond? They could've kept making James Bond movies forever and ever, just keep using different male actors. As that specific character construct is iconic for what it is, who he is, cultural. James Bond is an actual person (in that universe). Separate from the 007 tag. If they want to explore having different sex/race/sexual-persuasion for a spy character they couldve just done what i suggested....spinoff movies 008, 009, 005, etc all different characters. No need to kill James Bond the man in order to achieve the other thing. Such a stupid decision. Like how Disney ruined Star Wars. Think theyve destroyed it now. They might be able to do prequels, a younger James. They might even in the distant future suddenly bring him back to life when its ok again for that character to exist....tho i dont see how they can just pretend he didnt die and keep making Janes Bond movies with a hot new male actor and make people forget he died.

I initially thought this true sequel type strategy was great, each movie followijg on from the previous, but of course that also meant they could/would make him die. Now i see why the old Bond method is better, jumping about randomly, no follow-on.....meant James Bond himself could just keep going forever, every movie could be a mere snapshot of his overall life, each movie a mere week. Bond forever young. But this method, a true arc from just being instated as a double-o, to over time, falling in love, getting older, having a kid, dying.

Ugh, so stupid. And what are the idiots who bought half the rights to Flemings Bond gonna do now with that mess??

Rate them....

Tier One -- Skyfall, Casino Royale
Tier Two -- Spectre

Tier Thirty -- No Time To Die
Tier Forty -- Quantum of Solace

Really, the two bottom ranked equally as bad. But for vastly different reasons. Quantum was Bond in action, another Bond ride....but just so poorly written and edited/directed. Whereas NTTD for the reasons in the spoiler.

Wad never a big Bond fan l, movies or books, but for those who were/are, NTTD ruined James Bond himself, the point of the adventure story and fornat.
 

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Discussion on the name a movie from the scene thread led me to watching this classic again.
It got described as the best ever pool movie and I couldn't agree more, I thought it was better than Pool hall junkies and for mine it shits on the color of money.

The movie itself is kind of in the Lock stock type mould, being a kiwi movie there are a few recognizable faces and it's just a fun movie, I also find both the humor and the story relatable.

It's free and in full on YouTube, well worth the watch.
 
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I'm in the middle of No Time To Die right now.....but i was thinking.....theres potential for the franchise and the Bond Universe to create movies around other Double-O characters never seen before. You got a whole eight other possible characters you could do movies on, and maybe even a Marvel-like thing where they interact or team up in future movies.

Surprised no ones ever thought about this before??
Let's de-age Sean Bean and do a 006 movie. Then we have the multiverse with the alt version of Thunderball.

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Cruise was very charismatic in Collateral, or maybe Jamie Foxx isn't. Between Collateral and Law Abiding Citizen there's two films where he is the goodie and yet I wanted him to lose...

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Foxx ruined law abiding citizen by changing the ending, originally the plan was going to work …instead Foxx wanted to be the hero and had it changed

Fantastic movie up to the ending which ruins it all
 

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The Little Things

I was very excited to watch this because of the caliber of actors involved but the movie is a mess imo.

Washington, Leto and Malek all put in solid performances but sadly weren’t enough to save the film. Some nice cinematography in there too but ultimately a poor film.

5/10
Yeah I liked it up towards the last 30 mins …just felt rushed to make that twist ending imo …it had a nice slow burn up untill that ending

great acting all around I have to admit
 

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No Time To Die.....done.

It was ok. Neither bad nor great. Certainly entertaining and not a waste of time. But it definitely wasnt a Bond movie. It was like a romantic action movie. It was a.....

....send off. A eulogy. I think they really f’ed up here. Why kill off James Bond? They could've kept making James Bond movies forever and ever, just keep using different male actors. As that specific character construct is iconic for what it is, who he is, cultural. James Bond is an actual person (in that universe). Separate from the 007 tag. If they want to explore having different sex/race/sexual-persuasion for a spy character they couldve just done what i suggested....spinoff movies 008, 009, 005, etc all different characters. No need to kill James Bond the man in order to achieve the other thing. Such a stupid decision. Like how Disney ruined Star Wars. Think theyve destroyed it now. They might be able to do prequels, a younger James. They might even in the distant future suddenly bring him back to life when its ok again for that character to exist....tho i dont see how they can just pretend he didnt die and keep making Janes Bond movies with a hot new male actor and make people forget he died.

I initially thought this true sequel type strategy was great, each movie followijg on from the previous, but of course that also meant they could/would make him die. Now i see why the old Bond method is better, jumping about randomly, no follow-on.....meant James Bond himself could just keep going forever, every movie could be a mere snapshot of his overall life, each movie a mere week. Bond forever young. But this method, a true arc from just being instated as a double-o, to over time, falling in love, getting older, having a kid, dying.

Ugh, so stupid. And what are the idiots who bought half the rights to Flemings Bond gonna do now with that mess??

Rate them....

Tier One -- Skyfall, Casino Royale
Tier Two -- Spectre

Tier Thirty -- No Time To Die
Tier Forty -- Quantum of Solace

Really, the two bottom ranked equally as bad. But for vastly different reasons. Quantum was Bond in action, another Bond ride....but just so poorly written and edited/directed. Whereas NTTD for the reasons in the spoiler.

Wad never a big Bond fan l, movies or books, but for those who were/are, NTTD ruined James Bond himself, the point of the adventure story and fornat.
Found myself nodding in agreement reading this even though I was more than ok with NTTD in the moment. Very compelling argument and also really like the spinoff suggestion of 006, 008 etc with different actors and therefore personalities, motivations etc.
 

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Found myself nodding in agreement reading this even though I was more than ok with NTTD in the moment. Very compelling argument and also really like the spinoff suggestion of 006, 008 etc with different actors and therefore personalities, motivations etc.
Cheers :heart:
Seems obvious to me that wouldve been a better path, and a big money making direction, a vision, that is surprising hadnt been thought of before (?).
Maybe it was, but a bunch of entities own various Bond rights and all have to agree or something ?? And yet....they all still agreed to choose the ending for NTTD so seems still seems like no one thought of it. Now they kinda painted themselves into a corner.
 

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Found myself nodding in agreement reading this even though I was more than ok with NTTD in the moment. Very compelling argument and also really like the spinoff suggestion of 006, 008 etc with different actors and therefore personalities, motivations etc.
Re-wrote it as an indb review of the movie, if youre interested. Say it all a bit better.

 

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Into The Wild

Great journey film, about a privileged young adult who gives up his urban life and travels across America and living in the wilderness.


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You, perhaps without knowing, understate the importance of Into The Wild. Not only from skipping of McCandlesse's life but by also ignoring the brilliant screenplay by Jon Krakour (3rd brother to Jimmy and Liam) and Sean Penn. Eddie Vedder feels a bit heavy from time to time but his sound does suit the narrative.

Jon Krakauer was also right there and living through the 1997 Mt Everest disaster. He wrote a book called Into Thin Air that is an amazing account of what went on up there. There's been other films made from the same expedition and other stories. Beck Weathers features in many and his story of survival is amazing.

Sorry Crafty, I just believe Into the Wild, and by extension most of Krakauer's work and study deserves more attention. And plaudits.
 

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Into the Wild is one of my favourite movies, very powerful imo.
If you liked Into the Wild, check out a movie called The Way with Martin Sheen walking the El Camino to recover his sons body inso doing his own pilgrimage to finish the path his son couldn’t


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