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Foxx ruined law abiding citizen by changing the ending, originally the plan was going to work …instead Foxx wanted to be the hero and had it changed

Fantastic movie up to the ending which ruins it all
I had no idea that ending was changed to appease foxx. I hate it so much I haven't been able to watch anything foxx is in since apart from django once as it's tarantino, need to check it out at least. That makes it even worse to know the original plan was to have butler be successful. Would've been awesome.
 

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Lol into the wild was some bloke who was massively underprepared (due to naivete or arrogance, or even his mental state, who knows) and paid the ultimate price.
Haha I always think that - this kid (well, young adult) who was sick of his parents and decided to do life his way and failed miserably.
 

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Its a pretty interesting character study of how our developmental lives and the influence of family can shape who we become.

Chris was absolutely stunted and moulded into a pretty disconnected young man by his family but his response was absolutely on the most extreme end of teen/post teen rebellion and no doubt some of his action was arrogance and hubris.

Into the Wild (i think) is an incredible film filled with some incredible performances but the ultimate take away from it for me was that all those experiences (good and bad) that he has are kind of worthless without people to share them with, thats not to say you shouldnt go and do stuff on your own but without friends and family (whatever they look like for you) to celebrate and support and comiserate life is gonna be pretty joyless.
 

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Last Night in Soho - delightful first hour of a movie that totally loses its way in the second half. Still, I loved the look and feel of this movie, and the soundtrack was a quite classic. It doesn't in any way nail the landing and loses its way way too early to truly recommend, but it was fun for a little while.

The Power of the Dog - really interesting film. Absolutely beautifully filmed, fantastic performances from the lead four, and Jane Campion is a masterful director. Benedict Cumberbatch engages in some full frontal nudity, which is a surprise but I guess shows how much he feels there's an Oscar on the line here. It doesn't quite meet classic masterpiece level that some of the rave reviews are suggesting (Jesse Plemons, in an engaging and likeable role, inexplicably slips into the background halfway through the movie and this narrative absence detracts a little from its core four great characters), but still a very good movie. The current favourite to win the Oscar for Best Picture, I doubt it will be my pick by the time all is said and done, but certainly worse movies have won the award.
Watched Power of the Dog,nearly ditched it when I saw cars and not much gun play,thought to myself this is going to be a sh*t Western.
Stuck it out and enjoyed it,particularly the way the last bit of the story played out.
Gets an extra 1/2 star for being a Jane Campion film with a prominent piano
4 Stars
 

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I had no idea that ending was changed to appease foxx. I hate it so much I haven't been able to watch anything foxx is in since apart from django once as it's tarantino, need to check it out at least. That makes it even worse to know the original plan was to have butler be successful. Would've been awesome.
Originally also written with Butler as the lawyer and Foxx the inmate, started shooting and went... Hey this would be better if we switched roles
 

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Zebra Girl. (2021).

A low budget psychological murder thriller based on a play. The main character, Catherine, kills her husband. We learn that she suffers from psychosis and paranoia plus a history of child abuse that led her to that act. Sarah Roy in the lead role also co-wrote the screenplay. I hope we see more of her, she has a bit of Jodie Comer about her.

It was OK but nothing special. Competently made but no great scenes.

5/10.
 

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Its a pretty interesting character study of how our developmental lives and the influence of family can shape who we become.

Chris was absolutely stunted and moulded into a pretty disconnected young man by his family but his response was absolutely on the most extreme end of teen/post teen rebellion and no doubt some of his action was arrogance and hubris.

Into the Wild (i think) is an incredible film filled with some incredible performances but the ultimate take away from it for me was that all those experiences (good and bad) that he has are kind of worthless without people to share them with, thats not to say you shouldnt go and do stuff on your own but without friends and family (whatever they look like for you) to celebrate and support and comiserate life is gonna be pretty joyless.
I don’t know he came across as very selfish and naive ….tried to write off the existence as soul searching and only at the end did he realise how much he f’ed up and how selfish he was to the people he left behind

no big loss imo
 

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I appreciate your perspective, but i still struggle to see it. I figured people wouldn't agree with me because i am sure it's probably the way my brain is wired.

I see Anthony Hopkins portraying a role, don't see it as some whole new human being. Like, he's utterly believable and natural in all his various roles, but the character itself still has Anthony Hopkins tells to it -- the mannerisms, the lean of his stance, the way he walks, the same dozen little facial gestures, eyebrow raises, corner of the mouth grins and beaming smiles, same measured manner of talking, etc. And all those things are there at the forefront in each of his roles.

Hannibal Lecter is Anthony Hopkins. Rather than Anthony Hopkins is Hannibal Lecter. Dr Ford is AH, not AH is Dr Ford. Etc. Such that if Tom Cruise had been cast in both those roles instead, Lecter and Ford would still be just as believable, because top actors are top actors and can make roles believable and natural. Lecter and Ford would end up just being Cruise in disguise same as Hopkins in disguise.

Hopkins tho, true, is far better than most because I've seen him be a fast-talking scatter-brained being, as well as a timid soft-spoken being, as well as a loud chest-thrusting being, as well as a menacing, slow, measured talker. As an example. Whereas most actors don't have that range, can't change their talking and such too much.

Kind of like how singers have octave ranges.... top singers just can't pull off notes and subtle fluctuations that others with greater range can. But like singers....they all still resemble the singer across every song they sing most of the time. They dont sound like someone else from song to song even tho theyre also acting out a different character in that song.

Hopkins is a beast, as is Daniel Day Lewis. Whereas guys like DiCaprio, Cruise, Pitt, and even Gary Oldman, Johnny Depp, etc ... They are top shelf, but they are mostly still doing versions of themselves. Hopkins and DDL also, they just have more range.

Imagine you tomorrow waking up and going about your day as a cocky chest thrusting guy with a high pitched voice that sounds nothing like you, who moves his arms about like a rapper when talking, who puts his foot on a chair and leans in with a devil face to chat people up. Who loses his temper quick and has a stressed out face. Then next day being a rigid soldier-postured guy who has blank face, no charm or charisma, no hand motions, and talks in a very deep monotone voice that sounds nothing like you.

I seldom see that kind of ability in any actor. Completely different voice, gait, general gestures and mannerisms, whole attitude/persona, inflections of voice and little facial habits....all completely different, like a professional impersonator. Actors can't do that for sone reason. De Niro is still always De Niro to the nth degree in talk, habits, fidgeting, etc etc, even tho hes got range.
When I see Hannibal Lecter I don't see Anthony Hopkins, the mild mannered Welsh actor. I see a scary, cannibalistic genius. Robert Ford was possibly Hopkins' best work, with the nuance of expressions every sentence.

I don't think Cruise would have been suitable for either of these roles. But he brings other qualities into the equation. Tom Cruise brings his good looks and charisma into the characters he chooses to play. It's best to go with it.

There's almost a new industry for actors who are good on talk shows like Graham Norton. There are other great actors that are not so extrovert. De Niro is not particularly interesting off-screen. Sarah Snook is amazing on Succession but looked a little uncomfortable on interview. In Predestination she played two very different characters to great effect.

Some actors play versions of themselves. Some of the best actors come alive by playing someone else.
 

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Lol into the wild was some bloke who was massively underprepared (due to naivete or arrogance, or even his mental state, who knows) and paid the ultimate price.
Into the Wild 2007 - directed by Sean Penn, based on a true story, also stars a young Kristen Stewart.
From what I recall it was very good movie, the wife watched it several times, once with our sons as a bit of 'life lesson', which I didn't think necessary, but went along with - as I didn't want to be eating Pizza for the next 6 months...
 

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Its a pretty interesting character study of how our developmental lives and the influence of family can shape who we become.

Chris was absolutely stunted and moulded into a pretty disconnected young man by his family but his response was absolutely on the most extreme end of teen/post teen rebellion and no doubt some of his action was arrogance and hubris.

Into the Wild (i think) is an incredible film filled with some incredible performances but the ultimate take away from it for me was that all those experiences (good and bad) that he has are kind of worthless without people to share them with, thats not to say you shouldnt go and do stuff on your own but without friends and family (whatever they look like for you) to celebrate and support and comiserate life is gonna be pretty joyless.
Into the Wild is easily the best of the recent 'go off into nature on your own' movies. He had a great positive attitude and some skills. There was a balance in his forming relationships and wanting to be isolated and independent.

In Wild (2014), Reese Witherspoon plays a woman whose mother dies so she takes a lot of drugs and screws any bloke, then without any preparation decides to walk the thousand miles of the Pacific Crest Trail. It's one of the most boring movies I've ever watched.

Then Land (2021). Robin Wright stars in her own directorial debut, about a woman who moves to a cabin deep in the woods of the Pacific Northwest, running from an unnamed tragedy in her life. Throwing her phone in a bin and having her car removed, she seeks to live a totally solitary existence, despite being totally ill-prepared for such a life. The plot relied on creating dramatic tension by having her character do stupid things. OK she's stricken by grief but she's an intelligent woman. If she seriously wanted to live in isolation it was moronic not do some basic survival research and have emergency back up.
 

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I, Daniel Blake (2016) - I stopped posting in this thread last year when I decided I'd been spending too much time on BigFooty. It lasted all of 2 months, but I didn't really feel the need to post back in this thread until I watched this movie the other night. I can't help but keep thinking about it days later.

The story is fairly simple, but it's just done so damn well and I'm pretty sure everyone can relate to the desire to be treated with dignity. It’s about a man in England in his 50s who has to start applying for Government support after having a heart attack on a job site. He struggles with the unedifying battle against bureaucracy and ends up befriending a young single mother who is facing the same frustrations while trying to keep it all together for her kids.

It’s half-infuriating, half-depressing, but despite the bleakness it's uplifting seeing their resilience, seeing them somehow getting by despite the system being setup to not actually help them. But it was just a brilliant film.

10/10
 

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Into the Wild is easily the best of the recent 'go off into nature on your own' movies. He had a great positive attitude and some skills. There was a balance in his forming relationships and wanting to be isolated and independent.

In Wild (2014), Reese Witherspoon plays a woman whose mother dies so she takes a lot of drugs and screws any bloke, then without any preparation decides to walk the thousand miles of the Pacific Crest Trail. It's one of the most boring movies I've ever watched.

Then Land (2021). Robin Wright stars in her own directorial debut, about a woman who moves to a cabin deep in the woods of the Pacific Northwest, running from an unnamed tragedy in her life. Throwing her phone in a bin and having her car removed, she seeks to live a totally solitary existence, despite being totally ill-prepared for such a life. The plot relied on creating dramatic tension by having her character do stupid things. OK she's stricken by grief but she's an intelligent woman. If she seriously wanted to live in isolation it was moronic not do some basic survival research and have emergency back up.
Think you’re romanticizing McCandless a lot, he actively avoided any longer term attachment out of some misplaced sense of the spiritual journey and ultimately his hubris cost him his life and his detachment meant he died alone in every sense of the word. The movie is great but his story is a cautionary tale not an aspirational one.

Also think you’re being rough on wild, I quite enjoyed it.
 

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I don’t know he came across as very selfish and naive ….tried to write off the existence as soul searching and only at the end did he realise how much he f’ed up and how selfish he was to the people he left behind

no big loss imo
I agree with the selfish and naive but I think the movie asks the question (and deliberatelt doesn’t answer it) how much of that was him alone and how much was it the home he was raised in, scratch at the nuclear family surface and see a father utterly miserable with what he saw as unfulfilled potential and a mother who had no real self outside of being a mother.

There is a romanticism to running off and living in the woods, just you and nature (certainly over the 9-5 mortgage etc) but in the end the message I took was whatever you choose to do will be unfulfilling if you do it utterly alone.
 

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I agree with the selfish and naive but I think the movie asks the question (and deliberatelt doesn’t answer it) how much of that was him alone and how much was it the home he was raised in, scratch at the nuclear family surface and see a father utterly miserable with what he saw as unfulfilled potential and a mother who had no real self outside of being a mother.

There is a romanticism to running off and living in the woods, just you and nature (certainly over the 9-5 mortgage etc) but in the end the message I took was whatever you choose to do will be unfulfilling if you do it utterly alone.
I think it was all about his folks and he didn't want to be like them ever so did the thing that hurt them the most (also to make them feel something (which they hadn't for a long time) and make them hurt)

Selfish spot on.

I still enjoyed the film (Eddie Vedder chipping in every 15 mins helps and the old guy who taught him belt markings was awesome in it). Did find it ironic he died pretty quickly when he was all alone

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Think you’re romanticizing McCandless a lot, he actively avoided any longer term attachment out of some misplaced sense of the spiritual journey and ultimately his hubris cost him his life and his detachment meant he died alone in every sense of the word. The movie is great but his story is a cautionary tale not an aspirational one.

Also think you’re being rough on wild, I quite enjoyed it.
Wild was great. As good as Into The Wild IMO. Reece Witherspoon really showed her chops in that one.
 

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Think you’re romanticizing McCandless a lot, he actively avoided any longer term attachment out of some misplaced sense of the spiritual journey and ultimately his hubris cost him his life and his detachment meant he died alone in every sense of the word. The movie is great but his story is a cautionary tale not an aspirational one.

Also think you’re being rough on wild, I quite enjoyed it.
I love Wild. Seen it several times
 

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Soul Pursuit. (2021).

A very low budget production by Larry Humphrey. He wrote it, directed, edited, plays the lead character as well writing some of the score.

The plot is fairly basic. He gets a call that his brother has been involved in a vehicle accident so drives to investigate. It becomes apparent that his brother has died. To cope with his grief he decides to hike the Oregon wilderness with his dog. Then you get a fairly improvised commentary as he walks the trails.

I've got a lot of admiration for independent film makers that can put something together like this. And I think I was in the mood for vegging out for an hour and a half. But there were elements that made it seem more amateur than it needed to be - such as the opening sequence which was poor. And the editing. Who the hell does expanding circle or multi-slice cuts!

I can't particularly recommend it but you might enjoy it if you appreciate independently produced movies such as Scott Ryan's, The Magician, which eventually led onto better things.
 

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Soul Pursuit. (2021).

.. Who the hell does expanding circle or multi-slice cuts!

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Dunno if you've heard of him, there's this guy, independent film maker called George Lucas who used them a bit, as did his ex wife, think she won some awards at something called the Oscars or that for her editing.

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Nitram - pretty good movie. Didn't know know much about his life. Then reading up on him afterwards it seemed it was pretty accurate.

Disturbing how this sh*t happens, wrong place wrong time for the victims and could happen to anyone.

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Dunno if you've heard of him, there's this guy, independent film maker called George Lucas who used them a bit, as did his ex wife, think she won some awards at something called the Oscars or that for her editing.
Flared pants and platforms shoes were also popular in the 1970s. :p
 

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No Time to Die

A really fitting and poignant end to the Craig/Bond era that also serves to show us that Rami Maleks Oscar win wont age well at all.

Amazing set pieces and action scenes mixed with some really great dramatic scenes and breathtaking locations. Technically i "grew up" with the Brosnan Bonds but i think Craig has taken the character to a new space and leaves behind much bigger shoes. Ana De Armas has a wonderful 10 minutes to boot. Everything i could have asked for and nudging Casino Royale for mine as best Craig installment. 9/10

I completely understand the criticism of killing the James Bond character but i also think it was inevitable, this is not a man who will ever be able to reconcile the normal life he would have had here. The series will be re booted no doubt and thats fine but him dying makes way more sense to me than riding off into the sunset with Madeline and his daughter.
 
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A really fitting and poignant end to the Craig/Bond era that also serves to show us that Rami Maleks Oscar win wont age well at all.

Amazing set pieces and action scenes mixed with some really great dramatic scenes and breathtaking locations. Technically i "grew up" with the Brosnan Bonds but i think Craig has taken the character to a new space and leaves behind much bigger shoes. Ana De Armas has a wonderful 10 minutes to boot. Everything i could have asked for and nudging Casino Royale for mine as best Craig installment. 9/10

I completely understand the criticism of killing the James Bond character but i also think it was inevitable, this is not a man who will ever be able to reconcile the normal life he would have had here. The series will be re booted no doubt and thats fine but him dying makes way more sense to me than riding off into the sunset with Madeline and his daughter.
i agree with you although i wouldn't rate it so high. to me it was a 7/10. As for Remi, he is now officially on my list of a movie would have to get really good reviews for me to watch a film he is in. He was terrible in this and terrible in pretty much everything i have seen him in. Honestly couldn't really differentiate between his performance in this and Freddy Mercury which i doubt was what he was going for. I don't get the hype.
 

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i agree with you although i wouldn't rate it so high. to me it was a 7/10. As for Remi, he is now officially on my list of a movie would have to get really good reviews for me to watch a film he is in. He was terrible in this and terrible in pretty much everything i have seen him in. Honestly couldn't really differentiate between his performance in this and Freddy Mercury which i doubt was what he was going for. I don't get the hype.
Yeh fair, i loved it but frame of mind and first trip back to the cinema in a looooong time probably helped.

Rami... man, i wanna like him but it seems hes just doing weird, cagey introvert or Freddie Mercury. Like i said, that Oscar is gonna age horribly.
 

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i agree with you although i wouldn't rate it so high. to me it was a 7/10. As for Remi, he is now officially on my list of a movie would have to get really good reviews for me to watch a film he is in. He was terrible in this and terrible in pretty much everything i have seen him in. Honestly couldn't really differentiate between his performance in this and Freddy Mercury which i doubt was what he was going for. I don't get the hype.
But, but, but what about the prosthetic teeth. Surely he deserved an Oscar or them....
 

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