Society/Culture When is racism really racism?

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Sweet Jesus

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Egg Boy

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When discussing "racism" people need to distinguish between racism and discrimination.

Racism - internal ideas/attitudes.
Discrimination - manifestation of those ideas in the real world.

If someone hates a certain race or group but doesn't manifest that hatred in the real world then should we care?

You can argue that internal attitudes may lead to discrimination ... but this implies that human actions aren't filtered by societal pressures etc.

Example: I might laugh at an Aboriginal joke (racism lite) BUT I would never discriminate in the real world against an Aboriginal.

Conclusion: Racism is really racism when it manifests in real world discrimination.
 

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Ben The Donkey

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Don't point out that Israel is an ethnostate. That's racist!

I mean, it's not like Israel denies the vote to 2.5 million Palestinians or anything. Right? To suggest as much would be racist.

It's not racist at all. In fact, it's not even true. Israel is a state with a religious majority comprised of many different ethnicities. If you look at the Israeli demographic, the terms "white" (or even Caucasian) or "ethnostate" are virtually inapplicable, unless you try very hard to make them so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
Basically, that Israel might appear to be mostly Caucasian is more due to the geological origin of the religions adherents than their race. Judaism is a religion - not a race.

The marginalization of Palestinians in Israel is not a racist issue - it's a religious and political one.
 

Sweet Jesus

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Basically, that Israel might appear to be mostly Caucasian is more due to the geological origin of the religions adherents than their race. Judaism is a religion - not a race.
It's not that straightforward. Probably more accurate to say Jews are an ethnoreligious group for whom ethnicity, nationhood and religion are all connected.

And in Israel, folks outside that group have been subjugated.

The marginalization of Palestinians in Israel is not a racist issue - it's a religious and political one.
Or all of the above. Ethnicity is a factor in the marginalisation.
 
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