When Richie runs down back....

[the ranter]

Not saying his decision making won't improve, just hating reaching for the anatacid when he has the ball down back.

Can be almost as bad as when Brodie Holland happens to stumble down back.

2nd Quarter
• Cole (wasn't on most of Q1 if not all) runs 20m in DZ (defensive zone), not pinged and dud kicks. (or a good kick to where players weren't? 2 mintues earlier Clemo hit a target) which results in a goal because Grant in trying to grab it accidently knocks it to the feet of our players.

3rd Quarter
• Giotto easily beats Cole overhead and marks in 50 arc.
• KI (kick in)- Cole marks ball, runs with it, caught with the ball hand passes to opposition – they goal.
• Giotto – nobody on him in the 50Z (Cole swanning around 20 metres from him).
• cole kicks to a 2 on 1 contest. ("Not again" somebody screamed).

Cole picked up his game in the 3rd quarter. Stayed a lot tighter on his man.
Not bad in the fourth but the tension was too great to focus on Cole again.

Room to make mistakes on Thursday night??????

 

[the ranter]

So GG is that short enough for ya?

 

[leonmagic]

Couldn't agree more.

As a team we simply cannot afford to make as many mistakes as we have against Richmond and the Bulldogs against Brisbane, it will simply kill us.

Cole is probably only considered our worst offender, as all of his mistakes our made down back. Tarrant and Didak are two that worry me with their decision making at times, though it never sticks in your memory as it normally takes another minute or so untill we are punished with a goal at the other end.


Brisbane are almost unstopable as it is - with our mistakes they WILL be unstopable.

 

[The Scarecrow]

Cole shouldn't be kicking in, play him down back, but don't let him kick in. The games too important to have him kick in.

 

[Joel]

He really needs to get rid of the ball earlier than he does, that is his one fatal flaw.

 

[The Scarecrow]

Yeah, he takes too many bounces, and the last one always gets him cought. Hopefully he can quickly work that out of his game.

 

[rychenroller]

I really think that is one thing you shouldnt try to work out of a players game (any player). The confidence to run with the ball, take people on, have a bounce etc. Ben Johnson used to do it up until last year and was getting caught. i couldnt count the number of times Johnno got pinged. But his ability to size up the situation and do something constructive with the ball has improved out of sight, to the point where it fills a magpie supporter with glee to see him dashing out of the backline. I hope Richie continues to take people on, just improve his disposal. because to me its something you cant teach a player and it shouldnt be worked out of them, just improved.

 

[Murray]

Spot on Ranter.
He reminds me so much of the BJ of a couple of years ago.

 

[hotpie]

Originally posted by Murray
Spot on Ranter.
He reminds me so much of the BJ of a couple of years ago.

Yeah and weren't the Magpie Army quick to call BJ a dud?

Richie will be great for us, of that I have no doubt.

 

[the ranter]

Johhno use to make me so irate with his poor choices and impersonation of a garden sprinkler that I'd go out and strangle the neighbours pets at half time.

Now,we see less of the kicking or handpassing to the oppositions advantage, being caught with the ball and going for a jog in the car park rather than sticking to his man.

He is on the path to becoming a chris johnson.
That is what we want down back.

Two chris johnson's or two Kerro's.

Benny is showing the makings of one.

We need Coley to become the second pint size book end.

He has the talent. He has the skills. Its the postitional competency and the decision making that is letting him down.

He gets caught when he does a McGuane. Backmen can't run on the McGuane time scale of decision making.....

 

[the ranter]

Originally posted by rychenroller
I really think that is one thing you shouldnt try to work out of a players game (any player).

I couldn't agree more. However in some players it can become a pathological problem.

YOu allow them to do it for too long and they can never stop doing it.

The problem arises when rather than improving like Johhno, this habit will always result in a mistake and you can't stop them from doing it.

They'll never improve and get it right but they still continue to roll the dice and stuff up , even when you ask them to stop trying to take everybody on.

Remember the ST Kilda loss to the Crows.
Saints played as a bunch of talented individuals trying to take on the opposition and get by them with their individual skill.
They had been playing that way all season.


Crows just stuck to the stodgy game plan with (except jarman) no player going for the flashey one out taking on of the opposition.

 

[hotpie]

Ben Johnson has already passed Shane Kerrison.

 

[the ranter]

Originally posted by hotpie
Ben Johnson has already passed Shane Kerrison.

Maybe on his way to the supermarket.

Kerro, played a LOT of tough games and was set a lot of tough tasks over a long period of time.

If Johnno hangs around as long as kerro and acquits himself as well in AS MANY tough games then he will have the track record to back up the claim he had passed Kerro.

Can't declare a horse a champion after only a few wins at Doomben.

 

[hotpie]

Originally posted by the ranter


Can't declare a horse a champion after only a few wins at Doomben.

Nor can you send it to the glue factory after missing the start in a maiden trail at Cranbourne.

Give Richie a break, he's only a two year old.

 

[the ranter]

I hope Richie becomes the perfect backman....

Nobodies written him off , just closely monitoring his performance.

The perfect backman doesn't exist. That is one that never makes a mistake.

Obviously, during a career losts of mistakes are made by backmen.
There are different levels of 'mistake' a backman can make and the greastest level is a mistake that results in a goal.

The unfair, and harsh reality is that a backman can't erase that as its written up on the scoreboard.(shame forwards mistakes [other than a behind] don't result in a number on the scoring ledger).

And if that mistake ( in the future for example) costs the team a grand final who wouldn't be disappointed that the mistake was made.

What does this mean? Some folk like to scrutinise backmen in terms of their degree of liability down back. How?
List the mistakes and the level of mistake?

 

[CFE]

He seems as though it takes him an eternity to get ball to boot. He has a big wind up when he's kicking therefore he gets tackled or bumped which results in a scrubber kick.

 

[the ranter]

when a gallop out of defence goes wrong....

Some people just have a naturally slow wind up when kicking.
James Manson was a classic.
More likely his mind is racing and its taking too long to make a decision aka Mick Mc Guane.

As everybody knows if your going to run off your man and play attacking footy, out of defence , running the lines out of defence, there is far less room for error with your disposal, as you've probably left your man loose behind you.

So when you dispose of the ball after your glorious and always remembered run you need to make sure you hit a target or at least don't kick the ball to the oppositions advantage.

If you bang it to them and they bang it back past you, then obviously '****, wheres my man?"