Was happy to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you are a time waster. Claiming that the Pies would make finals/contend before Carlton, but when pressed you retreat waving a white flag.What does contend/make finals even mean?
They are not one in the same thing.
I am not predicting who will be the first to make finals and make up the numbers.
My 'guess' about who will contend first is just that, using the minimal data I have at my disposal as neither team imo has the makings of a premiership contender.
Thirdly, why would I want to make a bet with someone I don't even know?
I guess I will just keep calling out your time wasting circular content