When will the Carlton FC Arrive?

[Chief]

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[Soapy V]

A fit Cripps Williams Casboult along with Martin TDK Newman Fisher makes our side much better.

I’m looking forward to seeing Carroll Kemp Ramsay & Durdin step up

Dow O’Brien SPS Stocker now need to be played and in their right spots.

Issue is we can’t rely on best side all the time and doesn’t solve our defensive issues. I also don’t think we get the best out of our talent by playing players in the wrong positions

 

[Great8]

What kind of offers to you reckon Cripps would be attracting currently?

Still worth $900k IMO

 

[Juddernaut08]

We aren't arriving in 2021 it seems.

At least we can enjoy a few of your young players doing well. McKay in particular!

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

How was Treloars kicking yesterday compared to Saad and Williams??

Both had stinkers, what’s your point? Doesn’t change anything I said about Treloar.

 

[juss]

Still kings of the honorable loss under Teague

 

[WWSD]

Why are Carlton playing Casboult? De Koning should be in the Carlton team right now as the forward/second ruck.

 

[Soapy V]

We aren't arriving in 2021 it seems.

At least we can enjoy a few of your young players doing well. McKay in particular!

We were never going to. It's 2022 is when it will happen. Saying that a few things need to change though

 

[Soapy V]

Why are Carlton playing Casboult? De Koning should be in the Carlton team right now as the forward/second ruck.

Just come back from Back Injury. Will be in next week

 

[footyfan1978]

Why are Carlton playing Casboult?

Pure Insanity.

 

[schmuttt]

Good chance to win this week if our centre square combo keeps underperforming horribly.

 

[Cadillac]

I believe so, but we don't need to match. Just need to offer enough that both are happy with.
As much as I don't want to lose Cripps and hope he can get back to his best, I wouldn't begrudge him if he wanted to go back to WA. If he left for any other team than Freo or WC, then I'd be annoyed. I also don't think we'd miss him as much as people would think.
Harry is the one that we need to sign on.

You’ve been saying Cripps > Bont for years. And now you’re saying you won’t miss him if he left. Woweee.

 

[Soapy V]

You’ve been saying Cripps > Bont for years. And now you’re saying you won’t miss him if he left. Woweee.

He didn't say that

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

You’ve been saying Cripps > Bont for years. And now you’re saying you won’t miss him if he left. Woweee.

It’s almost like players can improve and decline over 2-3 seasons

 

[La Dispute]

Reckon Cripps was a better player up until 2019, and Bont has been clearly better since.

 

[Soapy V]

Ex Plowman hopeful..
Plowman needs to go, at best he is depth or 7th Defender..

Wouldn't get a game in any top 8 team and opposition try and play through his man...

Opposition coaches and supporters, the media, ex Carlton greats don't rate him..
Only people that rate him are the Carlton match committee and Carlton bigfooty board..

Our back 7 should be

Docherty - Jones - Parks
Williams - Weitering - Saad

7th defended - Newman

I think Plowman gets harshly treated. He's been good the last couple of years. Get's the hard jobs. I'd hate to be a defender in our side at the moment.

Interesting that Plowman was recruited as a big bodied mid/running HB by GWS and made a defender because of all the mids they had. SOS always said he was a midfielder.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

You’ve been saying Cripps > Bont for years. And now you’re saying you won’t miss him if he left. Woweee.

Firstly, I haven't been saying Cripps over Bont at all. I've been saying they're both great players, with slightly different games and shouldn't be compared at all.
Secondly, I didn't say we wouldn't miss him. Looks like you forgot to finish reading the whole sentence. Have another look. It's right there in my quote that replied to.
Thirdly, even if I was saying what you claimed I was, one doesn't necessarily negate the other.

 

[PP34]

It’s almost like players can improve and decline over 2-3 seasons

The same poster is ready to write off two game players so hardly surprising.

 

[daicosdemis]

Reckon Cripps was a better player up until 2019, and Bont has been clearly better since.

Absolutely not. Didn't the Bont go at 100% efficiency in the 2016 grand final ?

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Cripps is a wonderful player who turns out each week under duress.

 

[PP34]

Absolutely not. Didn't the Bont go at 100% efficiency in the 2016 grand final ?

Ah yes because grand finals are how we judge players

 

[La Dispute]

Absolutely not. Didn't the Bont go at 100% efficiency in the 2016 grand final ?

Didn’t Cripps win the MVP in 2019?

Bont didn’t win the NS in 2016, and wasn’t in the best couple of players either.

 

[Fadge]

Didn’t Cripps win the MVP in 2019?

Bont didn’t win the NS in 2016, and wasn’t in the best couple of players either.

Bont was adjudged the best player for the season in the premiership team of 2016.

Probably a better way of assessing it, unless you think JJ is a better player than the Bont?

 

[La Dispute]

Bont was adjudged the best player for the season in the premiership team of 2016.

Probably a better way of assessing it, unless you think JJ is a better player than the Bont?

Being the best in the league still eclipses being the best in your team, and club BnF’s are doctored to the extreme.

 

[Boxhead_31]

They are still waiting for what they are cooking to finish aren't they?

 

[Fadge]

Being the best in the league still eclipses being the best in your team, and club BnF’s are doctored to the extreme.

Regardless of how you look at it, the Bont has already had a better career than Cripps, and the gap is likely to increase exponentially over the next handful of years.

I'm actually still trying to work out how he was awarded the league's most valuable player in a team that won only 7 games. Does that mean if he didn't play, they would have only won 3 or 4?