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I'm not taking anything to heart. You opened the conversation with me. You told me what I was saying was incorrect. It isn't, the information is out there. You can have an opinion but understand when your opinion is just incorrect. Factually incorrect. You have said;
* We are a top 5 supported club in Melbourne (We are 6th in Melbourne, 7th in Victoria).
* The administration has disenfranchised it's supporters (yet we've broken our club membership in each of the last 5 seasons - two of them in seasons with no crowds).
* We've pandered to the AFL (whilst completely disregarding the financial position and favoritism by way of the fixture of the clubs you said didn't pander - Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton, Richmond, and disregarding the comparisons between stadium deals/revenue).
* Insinuating we need to bring in a former player to coach us because it worked once (whilst leaving out 29 other former players that have coached us and ultimately failed, not to mention the history league wide of some of the greatest coaches ever not having played at the club they won premierships for - Clarkson, Hardwick, Malthouse, Matthews).
* One side in the last 10 years have won a premiership without a standalone side (It's actually 5 of the last 10).
* Saying that our partnership with Sandringham is completely different to basically part ownership that Hawthorn and Melbourne have (It actually is, we signed a deal with Sandringham a few years ago as they were on their knees ready to fold. New deal gave us basic ownership of the club. Melbourne have had a very public disconnect between themselves and Casey - it is not all rosy)
* Claiming in a year or two Melbourne and Hawthorn will merge their VFL affiliates with their own standalone club (They have been affiliated for 22 and 13 years respectively, if they were to do it it'd be done already. If Hawthorn wouldn't do it after winning 4 flags under Clarkson then why do it now).
There's one thing I have agreed with you on over the last few days and I have told you I agreed. The stuff above is just wrong. Not opinion, just flat out wrong. I'm happy to keep the conversation going - you wanted to open up dialogue with me and I am happy to respond, but when you make factually incorrect statements then I'll say it. You say it's your opinion but you are speaking as if it's fact. It just isn't.
Hi George,
I know you like to hang on every word I post, look for errors in logic. Then use it to discredit... fine
I asked you about my boys memberships being used to inflate our record membership - your response was "if someone pays the $50 then who cares"
Our boys get membership cards, with a membership number, member packs, backpacks, free entry to a few games... guess what I didn't pay the $50. But who cares if they get a member number and they are added to our "record" tally.
I made a comment about our affiliation with Sandringham and asked why we flip flopped on our promise to have a standalone. I unfortunately made the error in thinking Melbourne and Hawthorn had standalone (when they looked like they did) ... so you discredited me on that angle
I'm not sure I was insinuating about Allan Jeans as coach, when he coached a family member of mine.