Where does Hawkins rank
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Haha, a bit harsh. But quite funny.
- Sep 15, 2005
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good call on the F50 ruckwork, you can tell it makes opposing rucks and defences nervous.
- Mar 22, 2011
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GOAL ASSISTS SINCE 2012Ranks pretty well. Would top all those listed players for score assists too.
1st. Tom Hawkins - 175 games - 164 Goal Assists
2nd. Jack Riewoldt - 172 games - 149 Goal Assists
3rd. Lance Franklin - 143 games - 124 Goal Assists
4th. Josh Kennedy - 150 games - 88 Goal Assists
5th. Jeremy Cam - 155 games - 83 Goal Assists
What source do you use for your stats? I think I'm gonna do a deep dive on that list.
- Mar 22, 2011
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Assists added:
Hawkins - 614 - 3.5 goals contributed per game
Riewoldt - 574 - 3.34 goals contributed per game
Franklin - 572 - 4 goals contributed per game
Kennedy - 544 - 3.62 goals contributed per game
Cameron - 487 - 3.14 goals contributed per game
Hawkins - 614 - 3.5 goals contributed per game
Riewoldt - 574 - 3.34 goals contributed per game
Franklin - 572 - 4 goals contributed per game
Kennedy - 544 - 3.62 goals contributed per game
Cameron - 487 - 3.14 goals contributed per game
Hawkins will go down as Geelong's third best key forward behind Ablett and Wade. Although he has had a great career, I feel that his back injury in 2013 robbed him of his full potential. He never regain that enourmous, pack splitting leap and lost a fair chunk of his agility after the injury and has been constantly managing it since. He has adapt magnificently though and has improved his footy smarts, strength, fitness and skills to compensate. He is the the most unselfish key forward I've seen and those assist numbers back this up. When he does retire, he will go down as a Geelong legend, a AFL hall of fame player and will be sorely missed.
- Nov 12, 2015
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Personally I think he's a genuine Champion of the club.
Would comfortably be inside the team of the century at this point in time and for me is the second best "tall" forward I've seen at the Cats, behind only the Great Man.
Clearly better than Mooney, and that's taking nothing away from Cam because he was awesome, clearly better than any forward we've had since GAS and at worst a touch in front of any other tall forward I've seen during those almost years in the late 80s and into the 90s.
Simply he's a Champion and I'll look back at his career fondly, and perhaps lament that we never got to see his absolute best when the Cats were winning flags (imagine him now in the 07-09 team... wow) or the potential decade of partnership with Nathan Ablett we were all looking forward to.
Would comfortably be inside the team of the century at this point in time and for me is the second best "tall" forward I've seen at the Cats, behind only the Great Man.
Clearly better than Mooney, and that's taking nothing away from Cam because he was awesome, clearly better than any forward we've had since GAS and at worst a touch in front of any other tall forward I've seen during those almost years in the late 80s and into the 90s.
Simply he's a Champion and I'll look back at his career fondly, and perhaps lament that we never got to see his absolute best when the Cats were winning flags (imagine him now in the 07-09 team... wow) or the potential decade of partnership with Nathan Ablett we were all looking forward to.
- May 18, 2016
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Hawkins before the game.
Brownless went alright and he was also a very good CHB.
Bill Brownless and Tom Hawkins AFL Stats Comparison
Bill Brownless and Tom Hawkins AFL Stats Comparison.
www.footywire.com
A better mark than Hawkins as he was a classical pack marking forward. Nowhere near as good of a set shot as what Hawkins is but certainly much more agile around the ground.
Did better than Hawkins in September as well.
Probably have Hawkins just ahead of him at this stage as Brownless completely dropped away once he hit 30.
- Sep 14, 2015
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I seem to be well forgotten in this discussion.
Don't forget the Laz
Don't forget the Laz
Do soccers off the ground count as ground ball gets in that stat? Because he's Archie Thompsoned more than a few goals lately.
Um no it doesnt mean that. Hawkins is one of the best key forwards when the ball is on the ground but that does not mean he is as dangerous when its on the ground compared to when its in the Air.
It really is quite hard to split them. Brownless career would of been better if ablett wasnt around and billy could of been the main forward. Hawkins career would of been better if he didnt do his back in 2013.
but in the end despite achieving much less I still take a fit stoneham ahead of both.
Stoneham was a champion in full flight.
Imagine if Stoneham played in today's era and never suffered the leg break and consequent leg infection which robbed him years off his career?
I can imagine he would be like a Jonathan Brown but more mobile.
- Sep 11, 2006
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A little off topic but didn’t know where to post.
Man it’s hard to find any merchandise of Tom Hawkins. All you find is Sel, Danger and GAJ
On the catsshop you can find stubby holders and all sorts of this on all of them and even HT and the best you can get with big Tommy is a pair of socks.
Been a favorite of mine for a long long time and need some Tommy lovin in my shed
Man it’s hard to find any merchandise of Tom Hawkins. All you find is Sel, Danger and GAJ
On the catsshop you can find stubby holders and all sorts of this on all of them and even HT and the best you can get with big Tommy is a pair of socks.
Been a favorite of mine for a long long time and need some Tommy lovin in my shed
- Aug 2, 2012
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Always hard to compare players from completely different eras, but Flanagan finished Top 6 in the Brownlow 4 times (including a 2nd placing), and in only one of those years did another KPF finish ahead of him - a bloke named Coleman.
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Can some of the older guys enlighten me as to what made Stoneham so good? I’m old enough to have watched him but probably wasn’t old enough to appreciate good forward play beyond kicking goals.
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If you can find a spare 2 hours, check this game out. I just watched it about a week ago. It’s the day senior kicked the ton for the first time. Finishing with 10.6, he could have broken Fred Fannings record that day. Missed some easy ones in front and Mick Martyn gave away about another 4 frees that weren’t paid.
It’s also Barry Stoneham at his very best. Pre leg injury. 25 touches & 5 goals.
