Where does the word Carringbush come from?

[X_box_X]

Whilst in the BigFooty chat, Nic asked everyone the question where does the word carringbush come from!

It stumped us all, so I decided to post it on this board!

Collingwood are called the carringbush all the time, and Rex Hunt uses it alot!

So does anyone know what it means and where it coems from?

thanks!

 

[magpie_joffa]

Carringbush was a make believe name, let me expalin for those who dont know about the history of well know collingwood identity John wren who rose to infamy pre war.

Frank Hardy wrote a book called power without glory detailing the life story of john wren and his tea shop come betting shop in collingwood as well as a marital indescretion concerning mrs wren which in those days as was scandal at its best.

Also alegations of caulfield cup rigging and suburban thuggery so the author in fear of being sued for libel had to change all names in the book relating to all people in the story, therefor John wren became jack west, collingwood became carringbush archbishop mannix became archbishop malone and so on and so on.

Any one intersted in collingwood pre war depression days should try and obtain the book as it is indeed most fascinating reading.

It is well know that john wren would go down to the collingwood dressing rooms after a victory and shake players hands with a pound note or two.

 

[mantis]

Joffa
I know the story well, my first ex was John Wren's great , great Nephew, probably why he was a Pie supporter as well.

Some of his family changed the spelling of Wren to Renn so as not to be associated with John.

 

[Nic]

Thanks boxy, and thanks a lot Joffa.

 

[Rohan Coventry]

John Wren used to live near Studley Park Kew and he was that times Kerry Packer.

His fueds with underworld Squizzy Talyor were stuff of legends.

He also was a handy footballer in his day. Not many people know that he played a few games for Fitzroy when he was 18.

However as he grew older he loved Collingwood and in particular Collingwood full forwards. My Great Uncle received a number of "golden handshakes" after he kicked a bag of goals.

It was not out of the blue that these handshakes entailed him giving 50 pounds to the player, which was very big money then.

 

[Harry]

I think Rex was referring to the play (and later the film) by Don Williamson called "The Club"
It's about a footy club called Carringbush which wears Collingwood colours.
The film will be on ABC TV next Saturday. It stars Jack Thompson as the coach and John Howard as a player. Rene Kink has a cameo role.

 

[Mobbs]

I don't believe The Club makes any reference to Carringbush, in fact, I think they allow it to be called Collingwood. Good movie, though.

I was wondering where I'd heard this Wren name recently, and it just dawned on me. He's mentioned a bit in an historical run-down of the life and times of Phar Lap ... can that be possible? Was that the same era? The book sort of gets the feeling for world and home events of time.

 

[magpie_joffa]

Originally posted by Mobbenfuhrer
I don't believe The Club makes any reference to Carringbush, in fact, I think they allow it to be called Collingwood. Good movie, though.

I was wondering where I'd heard this Wren name recently, and it just dawned on me. He's mentioned a bit in an historical run-down of the life and times of Phar Lap ... can that be possible? Was that the same era? The book sort of gets the feeling for world and home events of time.

I believe that john wren through connections was responsible for phar laps colors being black and white on the sleeves.

I have heard this numerous times.

 

[magpie_joffa]

Originally posted by Harry
I think Rex was referring to the play (and later the film) by Don Williamson called "The Club"
It's about a footy club called Carringbush which wears Collingwood colours.
The film will be on ABC TV next Saturday. It stars Jack Thompson as the coach and John Howard as a player. Rene Kink has a cameo role.

completly wrong the name carringbush was adapted by frank hardy in his novel power with out glory.

The play..has used the same name.

 

[Frodo]

I heard it was really about a pies player that lost his wedding RING and went looking for it in his CAR and eventually found it in the BUSH

HenceCAR RING BUSH