Opinion Where to from here?

[Poo Eckert]

Said before, even if Ken goes do we trust this board to hire the right coach regardless?

 

[Fizzler]

This needs to be printed en-masse in A1 sticker format and stuck all over town...

We could do that, but the records will only keep growing until the end of 2025 (or later).

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Enjoy the competition as a neutral for the next 18 months and re-engage when the dead weights have finally been lifted.

Which competition for you? I'm certainly looking forward to enjoying the NBA, EPL and UCL til Ken is gone that's for sure.

 

[Fizzler]

Said before, even if Ken goes do we trust this board to hire the right coach regardless?

Can’t say I do, the longer Josh Carr spends as Ken’s understudy, the less confident I feel about his abilities as a coach.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I’ve had several last straws over the years, but something about last night just felt… different? Never have I felt that exact mix of rage (from capitulating in a big game, the showdown) and apathy (from seeing it again after so many times). I’ll Probably look back on last night as the day I transitioned from being a disgruntled supporter to an outright hater, someone who despises the coaching staff, the administration, and segments of the playing group with every fibre of my being.

Yeah I don't get this at all. Maybe because I don't go to games live its different.

For me this isn't even close to being our worst loss in the last fortnight.

 

[Fizzler]

Yeah I don't get this at all. Maybe because I don't go to games live its different.

For me this isn't even close to being our worst loss in the last fortnight.

I generally don’t go to many of our games either, just Gather Round and a couple in Melbourne. Been to three so far (Essendon, Richmond, Collingwood) and will likely not go to any more this year because I’m busy with VFL and local footy. But of all our losses, that one was embarrassing. Just because we knew we’d lose coming into it doesn’t mean we didn’t lose a team that frankly isn’t as good as us. Or maybe they are better than us, I don’t know. We’ll keep papering over the cracks and losing big games against good teams because they’re better than us, but losing a Showdown in that fashion to that Adelaide team is sickening.

 

[HinkleysHeroes]

A strong club gets rid of their no hopers.

We will blame injuries and say we are still learning after 11 years.

Fake PAFC.

 

[Poo Eckert]

A strong club gets rid of their no hopers.

We will blame injuries and say we are still learning after 11 years.

Fake PAFC.

That creed is no longer relevant apparently!

 

[JimmyBC]

Said before, even if Ken goes do we trust this board to hire the right coach regardless?

No.

 

[Capital Power]

Said before, even if Ken goes do we trust this board to hire the right coach regardless?

At this stage, I don't care. Anything is better than the current train wreck, even a new train wreck.

 

[SC_Power]

Where to? Ring the club and cancel your membership. Simple.

Welcome to 4 years ago.

 

[SC_Power]

I’ve had several last straws over the years, but something about last night just felt… different? Never have I felt that exact mix of rage (from capitulating in a big game, the showdown) and apathy (from seeing it again after so many times). I’ll Probably look back on last night as the day I transitioned from being a disgruntled supporter to an outright hater, someone who despises the coaching staff, the administration, and segments of the playing group with every fibre of my being.

Welcome to 9 months ago

 

[Fizzler]

Welcome to 9 months ago

I hope my post doesn’t read as if I’d been on board with Ken until recently. I just hadn’t quite evolved to the level of apathy that I’m at now. I could still get pissed off about how we played until a few weeks ago. Even going back a year I wouldn’t have been able to fathom being so unfazed by a showdown loss in that fashion, but they’ve managed to destroy my love for something that was previously so integral to the fabric of my personality.
It’s making me question whether it’s been a mistake to dedicate my life to football. Should I have even decided football journalism was my ideal career path? Do I still even like the sport I once adored? Was it a mistake to go to uni with the sole purpose of becoming a sports journalist? I don’t even know I should stick around and wait for the good times. Could I even enjoy those good times if they came around? Lots of questions swirling around my head and I feel like I’m at a crossroads in my life, that might sound dramatic but that’s how much this used to mean to me.

 

[jdeezy]

Enjoy the competition as a neutral for the next 18 months and re-engage when the dead weights have finally been lifted.

The problem with this is while I genuinely enjoy watching any footy the last few years of us have done their hardest to kill it for me. I can't get excited to watch another team that was horrendous go past us to lift another premiership cup. Its painful.

Sadly I can't put together the funds to go meet you back at the Lego Thread as a weekend hobby every week so I'm fairly stuck

 

[Capital Power]

The problem with this is while I genuinely enjoy watching any footy the last few years of us have done their hardest to kill it for me. I can't get excited to watch another team that was horrendous go past us to lift another premiership cup. Its painful.

Sadly I can't put together the funds to go meet you back at the Lego Thread as a weekend hobby every week so I'm fairly stuck

Some games are entertaining, although admittedly there are fewer these days. Wouldn't be unhappy about GWS winning, love the way Kingsley has them fired up. Toby Greene has long been my favourite non-port player.

That happening would give Barrett his biggest ever sliding doors (a genuine one even) but he won't see it.

 

[Schulzenfest]

• 10-12 in Showdowns
• 32-31 in Adelaide Oval night games
• 0-6 vs Geelong outside SA
• 0-3 in Prelims
• 5-7 in finals
• 1-4 in knockout finals at AO
• 34-3 vs GC/StK/NM

His win% is an absolute mirage, artificially boosted by a mountain of soft kills against lower-tier clubs.

He’s a mediocre coach carried by the sheer weight of talent he’s enjoyed but never probably harnessed.

One thing he is genuinely elite at is consistently and unerringly beating up on the bottom sides (except the Crows). We, and you especially, talk about his record against Gold Coast, St Kilda, North Melbourne inflating that win percentage, but other coaches get to play those teams too. Clarkson, Hardwick, Scott, McRae, none of them get their teams pumping the cellar dwellers with monotonous regularity like Kenneth does. In his 12 seasons at the club, the Hawthorn loss in the Russell Ebert tribute game is literally the only loss of its kind we've suffered.

There's nothing wrong with wanting a bloke sacked while still acknowledging that he is good at some things, in fact if anything it makes the argument to sack him even more convincing if you can fairly weigh up the pros and cons and then explain why we should fall on the side of the cons. To that end, it is fair to say that Bottom 10 Ken is genuinely as good a coach against bottom 10 sides as anybody, possibly even a better coach. And if this was the EPL, that might be enough. But unfortunately none of that actually leads you to success in a competition with a finals series.

Craig McRae lost to 16th placed Hawthorn last year. Ken wouldn't have lost that game with that list. But he also wouldn't have won a flag with it.

 

[rainwizard39]

We find Koch’s house and protest outside or Hinkleys idc which one

 

[portforever]

We find Koch’s house and protest outside or Hinkleys idc which one

In 2017 Port was fighting to finish in the Top four. Round 20 against Crows 130 to 46 in the rain. They made us look like a bottom sanfl club that night. That was the last time I really thought Ken was the man. It should have been a close tussle between two clubs challenging for the premiership. But instead it was one way street all night.

 

[Shane_Mag]

We going nowhere till Kochie and Ken are out of the club. Enjoy more misery cause that's all we getting till then.

 

[pstew2dstew]

I'm worried, yet excited he won't make it to his tribute match against North

He deserves that record.

But I said after the Collingwood game, they broke us or whatever positive energy we had going into the season.

I thought we would go on a losing streak after the game but we managed to beat saints barely.

 

[ibd77]

But I said after the Collingwood game, they broke us or whatever positive energy we had going into the season. I thought we would go on a losing streak after the game but we managed to beat saints barely.

Saints never beat us and part of that, is that we hardly play them in Victoria. Its just one of quirks of the draw.

Collingwood on the other hand also broke our ability to beat the previous years premiers. So Ken cant even hang is hat on that either.

 

[DaTBird187]

I went last night because it was Thursday night.

Well yes, and Five AA pay you to be there.

 

[Poo Eckert]

At this stage, I don't care. Anything is better than the current train wreck, even a new train wreck.

Remember when we got Ken? We were suffering such an inferiority complex he was the best we could get

 

[El Zorro]

I checked the scores at around qtr time and half time (everything going according to plans by then) and then I forgot about it until I woke up this morning and checked it for tipping purposes. I was pretty happy to see that most suckers in my work comp tipped Port and I tipped the crows (one of the easiest games to tip tbh). So, glad I am equal top of the footy tipping comp 2 points clear of 3rd.

That's how much this game has affected me. I used to not be able to sleep after a loss to the crows. I think I like this better, thanks Kock and Ken for making my life less stressful.

 

[HinkleysHeroes]

I checked the scores at around qtr time and half time (everything going according to plans by then) and then I forgot about it until I woke up this morning and checked it for tipping purposes. I was pretty happy to see that most suckers in my work comp tipped Port and I tipped the crows (one of the easiest games to tip tbh). So, glad I am equal top of the footy tipping comp 2 points clear of 3rd.

That's how much this game has affected me. I used to not be able to sleep after a loss to the crows. I think I like this better, thanks Kock and Ken for making my life less stressful.

I took my learner driver daughter for lesson during the game as I knew the outcome halfway through the first quarter.

It was a peaceful drive.