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Imagine how Gov will go when he actually gets in shape!
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Analysis Where to play McGovern
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He isn't even fit, has no muscle definition, hasn't even played 50 games yet, as a KPP won't even hit his peak til 25 - so much scope for improvement it isn't funny.
Look how long it took Emac, Brown and Schofield to finally come on as players. McGovern is 3 years younger and much much more the players any of them were at 23, even Emac!
Double-edged sword... Trying to tag a loose back who has the talent and game-reading ability of McGovern will just bring an extra man to contests and make our job easier, whilst limiting scoring avenues for the opposition.
We want attention on McGovern, it plays to our strengths.
Remember Adam Goodes played as the 2nd ruck early on. Then he got smashed / injured the knee and the Swans said they would NEVER play him in the ruck again. And they never did.
You don't play gun CHB's / CHF's in the ruck. That's what ruckmen are for. Hawthorn came to a similar conclusion with Roughead.
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May that have been because of Franklin leaving, which meant Roughy was now their #1 KPP?
Gov wouldn't be in that position for us.
IMO the temptation of not having to carry a second ruckman (Lycett, Sinclair) in the forward line is huge.
NN playing 80% ruck, 15% bench and 5% taking speccies in the pocket.
McGovern playing 65% FF, 20% ruck, 15% bench.
JK and Darling full time forwards. Mackenzie, Barrass, Schofield full time backmen.
It gives us a crazy good mix of different strengths up forward and down back, and allows us to play 3 smaller players in the forward line to keep the ball locked in there if we don't mark it.
The alternative is playing a lumbering ruckman in the forwardline for 70% of the match, and one of Barrass and Schofield playing WAFL
I can see us subbing out the 2nd ruckman at 3 qrt time and letting Naitanui + Gov handle the final term. NN at centre bounces and the Gov takes the backline throw ins / ball ups.
If we go in with NN + Gov and then NN is injured in the 1st qrt that's not great.
McInness as the 2nd ruck / KP forward in the next few years looks like a good option IMO.
Lycett should be the one though. Geez I hope he can realise his full potential with us here. His best we've only seen in glimpses but it is scary good. Especially when he drives that knee into the shoulder blades of opposition players taking a big mark.
I like Lycett but he is a ruckman through and through. He is decent on the lead but like Kennedy and Darling he is not much of a contested/pack mark.I can see us subbing out the 2nd ruckman at 3 qrt time and letting Naitanui + Gov handle the final term. NN at centre bounces and the Gov takes the backline throw ins / ball ups.
If we go in with NN + Gov and then NN is injured in the 1st qrt that's not great.
McInness as the 2nd ruck / KP forward in the next few years looks like a good option IMO.
Lycett should be the one though. Geez I hope he can realise his full potential with us here. His best we've only seen in glimpses but it is scary good. Especially when he drives that knee into the shoulder blades of opposition players taking a big mark.
McGovern just complements JK/JD so well.
Will be interesting to see how it all goes anyway!
Nah wouldnt risk gov getting injured
Look how carlton flogged cruize in the ruck and cruelled him
Look how carlton flogged cruize in the ruck and cruelled him
I just hope that Simpson has learned that a shorter more agile / running side provides flexibility and improves our running skills and ball movement. It also helps defensively having more agile / faster medium sized backmen.
For years I always thought we played too tall. "The land of the giants" we were labelled. Three tall forward, three tall back men and two rucks.
A giant mistake IMO.
Playing McGovern as part time ruckman as a 24 yr old is not quite the same as playing a 19 yr old in the ruck full time
Aaaaand if nn went down andxwe hadnt brought on a number two ruck wed end up playing him predominately in the ruck
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Can we just clone McGovern one for defense, one for the forward line and one for me
For one game...he's not that fragile!
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If his brother Mitch is half the player Jeremy is he is a steal for the Crows at pick 43.Can we just clone McGovern one for defense, one for the forward line and one for me
If they keep wasting his time playing spuds like Jenkins ahead of him he might have to come home.
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Hoping that McGovern's injury could be a blessing in disguise for us. If Barrass is able to hold his own down back, it could open up the possibility of playing McGovern as a genuine swingman.
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