Where Will This Years Premier Be Decided?

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May 29, 2007
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Its all about structure boom,dont show all your cards prelim day.As for calling under the radar a character,i reckon he has about as much character as a house brick and the same IQ....Rumours..A.Kelly not coaching Winch but going to St Marys as a player only,and Otway to roll alvie in the unders.....ONLY 5 MORE SLEEPS WARRA
how can otway beating alvie be a rumour? And A. Kelly will not be at st marys next year. Is building a house and runs his own business so will not be travelling too far (why he doesnt want to coach). South Colac have approached him and shown their serious with big cash (forget the courtesy of waiting until the season is over) but he wont play under mcguane. Wants to play at colac next year. Could also go back to echuca however probably wont for reasons highlighted previously. camperdown have also made a play at him
 

B-HAWK 26

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no thanks...however i have come to the conclusion that irrewarra will win. Tell me go wide why hollmer was used in such a defensive role on saturday? Tully injured and the coach down on form, cant see them beating warra. especially now its likely to be dry. If you dont know what a warra *** is have a look around if they happen to get up on saturday. Warra*** should be out in force and at their worst. Although if they choke again then they will be displaying symptoms of warra *** anyway so either way, with three teams in the football finals, the *** will be on display all day. Perhaps if a bomb was to be dropped on the ground...under the radar you might be the type of character to arrange something like that:thumbsu:
I believe you are underestimating the impact that losing Heathcote has on the lorne side. Other then the fact that he can play the game, not having him there throws there whole structure out of whack and i wouldnt be suprised if lorne started all the big guns in tyhe middle this week.
 

Mr Magoo74

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I believe you are underestimating the impact that losing Heathcote has on the lorne side. Other then the fact that he can play the game, not having him there throws there whole structure out of whack and i wouldnt be suprised if lorne started all the big guns in tyhe middle this week.

I agree, Heathcote's forward line pressure and intensity were sorely missed 2 weeks ago, and as you said not to mention he can play, having another strong marking option on the big central reserve will be a huge bonus for Lorne, assuming he is fit to play. Then you have the addition of Lewie Hollmer, if he comes back from falcons you have another CHB to add to the team, or a 6" 5' running wingman who can kick it 60m!

Did Irrewarra have anyone out against Lorne. Not sure on there make up but seemed to be at full strength and with no obvious injuries on the day would definately have a full list to choose from. Does anyone predict some selection changes at the bummers?

Warra still very deserved favourites, but by no means is the cup engraved already. Especially now denise trickey is not on the league committee....... then again cobbledick!
 

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May 29, 2007
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I agree, Heathcote's forward line pressure and intensity were sorely missed 2 weeks ago, and as you said not to mention he can play, having another strong marking option on the big central reserve will be a huge bonus for Lorne, assuming he is fit to play. Then you have the addition of Lewie Hollmer, if he comes back from falcons you have another CHB to add to the team, or a 6" 5' running wingman who can kick it 60m!

Did Irrewarra have anyone out against Lorne. Not sure on there make up but seemed to be at full strength and with no obvious injuries on the day would definately have a full list to choose from. Does anyone predict some selection changes at the bummers?

Warra still very deserved favourites, but by no means is the cup engraved already. Especially now denise trickey is not on the league committee....... then again cobbledick!
i think the cup could well be engraved as warra are simply the best side this comp has seen in recent years. They are the complete outfit with about 10 GOOD midfielders and plenty of depth.
 
May 29, 2007
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Lets take a look the Key area's which will decide who takes the cup this year.

LORNES MIDFIELD
The best in the competition. Has buckets of class in the best two players in this competition in Casey Tully and Jack Hollmer. Together with the ruck work of lee hollmer at their disposal, these two threaten to blow the finals series wide open. While Irrewarra's middle is handy, with the likes of beckett, elborough and cartright, and dunne, irrewarra lack hardness and a genuine ball winner. They are so used to winning the ball and you only have to watch them when they are winning easily, they all line up round the back of the packs for the easy posessions and that is where irrewarra can be beaten. Who will stand up for warra and win that hard ball? Whether they have looked at that question and answered it since last year will determine whether they will fall down in the same way they did last year and the year before that.

KEY POSITION FORWARDS
This is where Irrewarra are superior to lorne and where they can hurt them if they get a suitable day. Casey, Seiz, Harty, Monk and even Hinge and Elborough can all provide targets up forward and i doubt Lorne have the backman to match them. Birregurra, as B HAWK POINTED OUT, have a very solid back unit which may be able to close down Irrewarras forwards. Lornes forward line is suspect. While there is big wraps on Clancy down there, the fact remains that a fifteen year old kid has been there leading goalscorer each of the last three weeks. Dont expect Davies to do that on the big stage vs warra, it would be wrong to rely on such an inexperienced kid to kick your goals. They rely on their midfield for a lot of goals and they will have to do this again. Heathcote is only an average player and this will allow meade to go to clancy most likely and that will be a hard day at the office for him. Whelan goes missing when you need him but mason is a star who could possibly cause some headaches for opposition sides. Alvie have the goal kicking power up their to worry irrewarra but may fall down in other area's.

CHOKE..YET AGAIN?
You wont have to wait long for the doubt to sink in if things dont go irrewarras way early. The fans will get vocal and and mostly negative and the player will start to doubt themselves. This is why you have to attack them early and plant a seed of doubt in the minds of warra players right from the word go. If Lorne can skip clear by four or five goals to quarter time then there odds would shorten dramatically. Lorne are proven under the finals pressure in recent years and if they can exploit a jittery irrewarra early then they will go along way to winning the flag.

JACK HOLLMER
Dan Casey should have nightmares about this bloke every night in the lead up to the grand final. Has done it to them before and will do it again. Capable of turning a match on its head and irrewarras best option may not be to tag him as that will not work but to go into damage control and try to minimize the impact hollmer has on the game. It will not take one player but a team effort to stop this bloke and if hes down you can rely on Tully to lift. Have fun with this one warra.

WEATHER
If dan casey is not a religous man then he should become one. Every drop of rain which falls brings the opposition sides closer and closer to irrewarra and Birregurra exposed this as a chink in warra Armour earlier in the year. The poor state of the central reserve will be in lorne and birregurras favour and if we get a wet and muddy September the 13th, then rest assured, irrewarra will be spewing because it may well cancel out there advantage on the competition.

KEY PLAYERS
Players to watch throughout the finals series include:
Casey Tully and Jack Hollmer from lorne for reasons already spoken about. Khan beckett is a highly skilled player who is my tip for best on ground if they win easily and have things there own way which is when he does his best work. Jacob Mason is a terrific player from birregurra. Tom McCrickard is perhaps the classiest player in the competition and would slot nicely into most sides in Victoria.

SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN?
Lorne will beat birregurra in week one, alvie will beat forrest. Dont be surprised to see irrewarra beat lorne the next weak and i dont think lorne would mind this as the less finals experiance warra get the better. Birre and alvie could go either way but it wont matter as lorne will beat either side in the prelim
and gain some very important confidence going into the big one. Lorne vs Warra round three and i think this year irrewarra will turn the tables. Take quality players such as coutts, langdon, parsons, steven, holyroyd, barham out of lornes last years premiership side and inject meade, beckett, black, casey who are all quality players into irrewarra, i think they have the edge. While lorne are a young side who naturally will have improved alot and as alot are homegrown may have more to play for than warra who are mostly imports. I think that warra will win comfortably unfortunately but a lorne win would not surprise and if we get a wet day then its an even ball game. Whether warra have correctly addressed last years deficiencies and whether they can overcome the confidence shattering efforts of the previous two years will be interesting.
so far so good
 
Apr 3, 2008
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Geelong
no thanks...however i have come to the conclusion that irrewarra will win. Tell me go wide why hollmer was used in such a defensive role on saturday? Tully injured and the coach down on form, cant see them beating warra. especially now its likely to be dry. If you dont know what a warra *** is have a look around if they happen to get up on saturday. Warra *** should be out in force and at their worst. Although if they choke again then they will be displaying symptoms of warra *** anyway so either way, with three teams in the football finals, they will be on display all day. Perhaps if a bomb was to be dropped on the ground...under the radar you might be the type of character to arrange something like that:thumbsu:
no i am not the type to do that. Would be good to see them win i think. Have got to feel sorry for the poor fellas losing the last two in a row
 

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it was mentioned that he was volatile, poor choice of game for it to come out!
agreed hilly, we still would not have won with 3 clancys.In the washup that night lorne coppers took a bit of a dislike to clancy and carded(red) him...nothing in it..keep em jiggin..see you pre season for all the who goes where...early tip lorne v alvie gf....
 

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