Which clubs are really the big four of the AFL?

Which clubs are really the big four of the AFL?

  • Essendon, Collingwood, Carlton & Richmond.

    Votes: 261 72.5%
  • Sydney, Essendon, Crows & Collingwood.

    Votes: 20 5.6%
  • Sydney, Essendon, Crows & West Coast.

    Votes: 79 21.9%

  • Total voters
    360

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West Coast supporters really don't know anything about footy don't they
Look, I'm not denying that Richmond weren't the big boys back in the suburban comp days. You were definitely big fish in a small pond.

But you're in the ocean and swimming with sharks now. Credit to you guys, you have become a tiger (pardon the pun). But West Coast is a great white.
 
West Coast supporters really don't know anything about footy don't they

You really don't know anything about the English language. Your sentences are barely illegible.

Sure, you have every right to go on about flags you won 60 years ago in a 12 team state league.

Just as we have every right to not give a s**t. Like, are we really meant to be thinking, "Oh man, Tigers had real a great spell there after WW2, they surely have to be in the conversation."

Get real.

Truth is, since it became a national competition and you had to come out of your little Victorian bubble, you have struggled (besides recent events of course). Simple really.
 
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You really don't know anything about the English language. Your sentences are barely illegible.

Sure, you have every right to go on about flags you won 60 years ago in a 12 team state league.

Just as we have every right to not give a s**t. Like, are we really meant to be thinking, "Oh man, Tigers had real a great spell there after WW2, they surely have to be in the conversation."

Get real.

Truth is, since it became a national competition and you had to come out of your little Victorian bubble, you have struggled (besides recent events of course). Simple really.
Dude players like Royce Hart, Kevin Bartlett, Francis Bourke, Dick Clay, Kevin Sheedy and Ian Stewart are far better than any player your club has ever produced
 
Lol. There's at least a dozen West Coast players I can think of off the top of my head that were better footballers than Kevin Sheedy.
Wrong, sure Judd, Jackovich and Matera were great players , but after that you just start reading out dual grand final players like Kerr, Kemp ect who were good but not great.Dustin Martin will end up better than Judd, Rance is already better than Jackovich and Bartlett was better than Matera.
 

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Wrong, sure Judd, Jackovich and Matera were great players , but after that you just start reading out dual grand final players like Kerr, Kemp ect who were good but not great.Dustin Martin will end up better than Judd, Rance is already better than Jackovich and Bartlett was better than Matera.

And conveniently missing out the best ruckman to ever play and Cousins.
 
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Wrong, sure Judd, Jackovich and Matera were great players , but after that you just start reading out dual grand final players like Kerr, Kemp ect who were good but not great.Dustin Martin will end up better than Judd, Rance is already better than Jackovich and Bartlett was better than Matera.

Kerr, Kemp, ect were better footballers than Kevin Sheedy. Dean Cox, Ben Cousins, miles in front. Guy McKenna too.
Worsfold, Mainwarring, Sumich, Glass, Kennedy, McGovern are all players I'd comfortably have ahead of Sheedy.

None of them invented Indigenous footballers mind you, so Kevin at least has that.
 
Kerr, Kemp, ect were better footballers than Kevin Sheedy. Dean Cox, Ben Cousins, miles in front. Guy McKenna too.
Worsfold, Mainwarring, Sumich, Glass, Kennedy, McGovern are all players I'd comfortably have ahead of Sheedy.

None of them invented Indigenous footballers mind you, so Kevin at least has that.
Sheedy won 4 flags , 1 best and fairest , 1x media association player of the year 1974, 3 x all australian, Richmond captain, 8 x state of origin games and one of the best finals players of all time, what more do you want?
 
Collingwood has had a favoured draw for many years, the figures you have dont mean a lot when you rarely play at grounds like Kardinia park, right now the club with the biggest membership and gate attendance is Richmond, you need to lift your game at Collingwood if you want to catch us.

Lol the draw favours us because the afl know that Collingwood Is their biggest draw card win or losing. Our fans still turn up in huge numbers. Unfortunately same cannot be said for Richmond fans who do not turn up to games when their team is not performing. Like in 1990 when the mighty tigers were almost extinct and were playing in front of 6,000 fans v west coast and Brisbane bears in Melbourne. Collingwood were getting 6,000 to their Thursday night training sessions. If you look up bandwagon in the dictionary you will find the Richmond FC
 
Sheedy won 4 flags , 1 best and fairest , 1x media association player of the year 1974, 3 x all australian, Richmond captain, 8 x state of origin games and one of the best finals players of all time, what more do you want?

What more do we want? Well, a valid argument for one.

A flag is MUCH harder to win in the AFL era, surely no one needs explaining that to you?

Players don't even play state of origin anymore, so that's a completely useless stat to quote.

And watch out, a 1x media association player of the year award. Well, I'm out, there's no competing with that. Seriously?

And he won one b & f? Wow. Incredible. Meanwhile, WC players won actual brownlows and multiple flags and more AA positions. Sheedy was the best player in his team. Once.

Cox won 6 AA's and a flag
Cousins won 6 AA's and 4 B & F's and a brownlow and a flag.
Judd won 2 brownlows (1 not at WC obviously), a flag, and multiple b & f's

Nice try. But you haven't convinced anyone with your media association player of the year award and 1 b & f.
 
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Lol the draw favours us because the afl know that Collingwood Is their biggest draw card win or losing. Our fans still turn up in huge numbers. Unfortunately same cannot be said for Richmond fans who do not turn up to games when their team is not performing. Like in 1990 when the mighty tigers were almost extinct and were playing in front of 6,000 fans v west coast and Brisbane bears in Melbourne. Collingwood were getting 6,000 to their Thursday night training sessions. If you look up bandwagon in the dictionary you will find the Richmond FC
Lol ancient history, as opposed to 3 years ago Collingwood drawing 86,000 against Essendon in Round 6, and less than 4 months later, 16,000 at their home game against GC in round 22.

The quickest jump off in history!

#sobrave
 
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What more do we want? Well, a valid argument for one.

A flag is MUCH harder to win in the AFL era, surely no one needs explaining that to you?

Players don't even play state of origin anymore, so that's a completely useless stat to quote.

And watch out, a 1x media association player of the year award. Well, I'm out, there's no competing with that. Seriously?

And he won one b & f? Wow. Incredible. Meanwhile, WC players won actual brownlows and multiple flags and more AA positions. Sheedy was the best player in his team. Once.

Cox won 6 AA's and a flag
Cousins won 6 AA's and 4 B & F's and a brownlow and a flag.
Judd won 2 brownlows (1 not at WC obviously), a flag, and multiple b & f's

Nice try. But you haven't convinced anyone with your media association player of the year award and 1 b & f.
lol Kevin Sheedy's 1974 season would just about be better than any season from any West Coast mid
 
Lol the draw favours us because the afl know that Collingwood Is their biggest draw card win or losing. Our fans still turn up in huge numbers. Unfortunately same cannot be said for Richmond fans who do not turn up to games when their team is not performing. Like in 1990 when the mighty tigers were almost extinct and were playing in front of 6,000 fans v west coast and Brisbane bears in Melbourne. Collingwood were getting 6,000 to their Thursday night training sessions. If you look up bandwagon in the dictionary you will find the Richmond FC
You cant be this clueless and still know how to breath?
Where were all these supposed diehards this year champ, all on social media were they?
 
Lol ancient history, as opposed to 3 years ago Collingwood drawing 86,000 against Essendon in Round 6, and less than 4 months later, 16,000 at their home game against GC in round 22.

The quickest jump off in history!

#sobrave
Nice try but we all know Collingwood avoid marvel stadium. This year we drew 53,000 against west Coast at the g. But only drew 34,000 v Brisbane. If the pies played Brisbane at the mcg we would of drawn 45-50,000! Against port Adelaide in the rain on our final home game before finals we drew 47,000! You guys played Brisbane in the same conditions at the mcg and drew just 32,000!

Hey Atleast we did not draw 6,088 people v west coast in round 14 1993 😂
 
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