Analysis Which clubs deserve a priority pick?

[Godzke]

Hopefully it is dead

Richmond deserve a PP before Carlton do.

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[BluesRule]

Hopefully it is dead

Richmond deserve a PP before Carlton do.

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They are already getting one. Lynch for free, and pushing everybody else back a pick in the draft. AFL equality at its best.

 

[BPikkers]

There's no system to 'manipulate' anymore, it's up to AFL discretion, unlike when Collingwood bottomed out for the whole of 1 season to cash in on the old PP rules and land Thomas and Pendelbery.

If you think we're deliberately playing poorly or bottoming out solely to appeal to the sympathies of the AFL, you should probably look at all the 'favours' the AFL have done for us in the past...you know, like decimating our club for salary cap breaches when other clubs got a slap on the wrist.

People were critical when we tried to buy success in the past, now they're critical when we try a legitimate rebuild. The AFL surely realise they've created inequalities with Free Agency, so there needs to be ways for them to make more teams competitive. No one had a sook when Brisbane got a PP a couple of seasons ago, no one will care too much if the Gold Coast get one this year, and both clubs made significant mistakes that put them in the situations they were in. Now Brisbane are growing stronger and that's a great thing for the competition. Gold Coast will take a lot more time and effort, but it can happen. Hopefully we'll start to show the same improvement as Brisbane is and a PP will go a long way to achieving that, even if it's only an end of first round pick, which can be used on bringing in some established talent. At the of the day, a more competitive league is a win for everyone.

Carlton supporters and the club believe they have the right strategy going forward. They all know that there will be hard years before the good.

To get a PP on the back of their ‘strategy’ is digraceful. It puts other lowly teams at a major disadvantage.

 

[Vamos Juddamente]

The whole Carlton have deliberately made themselves bad argument is rubbish. Under Malthouse we were already really bad at least we are now bad with some talent coming through.

Of the players we traded out Henderson,& Yarran walked out, Gibbs requested a trade two years in a row, Menzel was no good, Bell went home to be with his father. The only good player we really pushed out was Tuohy.

I don’t really see how any of this precludes us from getting assistance.

Anyway the AFL should change it to if you miss finals for 3 years in a row you get a pick. It will take out all these stupid arguments.

 

[Jell]

Carlton supporters and the club believe they have the right strategy going forward. They all know that there will be hard years before the good.

To get a PP on the back of their ‘strategy’ is digraceful. It puts other lowly teams at a major disadvantage.

How do you figure that? Brisbane received a PP in 2016, Gold Coast will get one this year if we do...so there's three of your bottom four receiving the same assistance. If St Kilda and Freo don't improve, I dare say they'd go after a PP too.

If we want to talk about real disadvantages, we could look at how the likely back to back premier can obtain the best player as a free agent from the 17th placed team. Equalisation measures are in place to help the teams that are taking longer to rebuild. The system is a lot better now that when your team bottomed out for 1 year and got Dale Thomas as a PP to go with Scott Pendelbury...I'm sure you weren't complaining about your strategy then.

 

[BPikkers]

How do you figure that? Brisbane received a PP in 2016, Gold Coast will get one this year if we do...so there's three of your bottom four receiving the same assistance. If St Kilda and Freo don't improve, I dare say they'd go after a PP too.

If we want to talk about real disadvantages, we could look at how the likely back to back premier can obtain the best player as a free agent from the 17th placed team. Equalisation measures are in place to help the teams that are taking longer to rebuild. The system is a lot better now that when your team bottomed out for 1 year and got Dale Thomas as a PP to go with Scott Pendelbury...I'm sure you weren't complaining about your strategy then.

You just answered your own question.

And you keep going back to over 10 years ago with Collingwood getting a PP. that was wrong but the rules were that you win less than 5 games and you get one. Should never have happened. The blues have had quite a number of 1 picks and have got nothing to show for it.

 

[BPikkers]

How do you figure that? Brisbane received a PP in 2016, Gold Coast will get one this year if we do...so there's three of your bottom four receiving the same assistance. If St Kilda and Freo don't improve, I dare say they'd go after a PP too.

If we want to talk about real disadvantages, we could look at how the likely back to back premier can obtain the best player as a free agent from the 17th placed team. Equalisation measures are in place to help the teams that are taking longer to rebuild. The system is a lot better now that when your team bottomed out for 1 year and got Dale Thomas as a PP to go with Scott Pendelbury...I'm sure you weren't complaining about your strategy then.

So the first or second pick in the draft isn’t enough? So what you are saying is that if fans are ok about it, clubs who aren’t contesting for the grand final should sacrifice 4 or 5 years and get rid of experienced players for draft picks, bottom out and then be given PP (in addition to their high draft picks) in order to get back up and challenge?

What a rubbish competition we would have rewarding poor teams. I thought this was all about an elite sporting competition.

We should have 2 divisions with a relegation.
Then let’s see what will happen.

 

[vozzon]

They are already getting one. Lynch for free, and pushing everybody else back a pick in the draft. AFL equality at its best.

Lmao, thats better than any PP and has the same effect on the draft by moving everyone down a place.

 

[Drewie11]

First is was pick 2, then 12, then 19 and now it’s an older player or 2

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Just because Carlton failed doesn’t mean handing extra picks to the bottom sides doesn’t work.

What it means is there is a s***load going wrong at your football club that no amount of priority picks can compensate for.

The AFL should be telling your club to get their s**t together and when they can finally prove they are on the right track (jumping a few spots up the ladder) then perhaps the idea of a priority pick may have some merit.

The only thing that would result from Carlton getting a priority pick this year would be to further rob all other AFL clubs of fair access to the best talent.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

If we have a draft, 95% salary cap and FA then we need a PP or something for balance.

Would prefer a free for all, but if the "competitive balance" measures remain then why was the PP scrapped? and what was put in place to replace it?

CFC should get a pick after our first (no conditions), GCS should get the same.

Seeing the same teams at the bottom of the ladder yet again shows "competitive balance" measures are failing.

The PP was scrapped because clubs like yours rorted it.

Unfortunately for you, it amounted to nothing

 

[CFC_#17]

What it means is there is a s***load going wrong at your football club that no amount of priority picks can compensate for.

The AFL should be telling your club to get their s**t together and when they can finally prove they are on the right track (jumping a few spots up the ladder) then perhaps the idea of a priority pick may have some merit.

The only thing that would result from Carlton getting a priority pick this year would be to further rob all other AFL clubs of fair access to the best talent.

Like North having access to Taryn Thomas, or Nick Blakey to the swans that’s a fair competition.

Why do the saints have to go from pick 3 to pick 4 because Gold Coast lose a player and Tigers pick up a player?

Until the AFL get rid of compensation picks for loss of free agents (which will force clubs to trade for restricted free agents).

The AFL should also remove clubs for having access to father son or academy players that are bid in the first round. So at least the first round is not compromised.

 

[Inzy7]

So much could be said here but I'll leave it at this. The whole PP and compensation for FA's needs to go full stop. No more hand outs for not being able to retain players and no hand outs for poor performances on the field! It's that simple

 

[marty36]

So much could be said here but I'll leave it at this. The whole PP and compensation for FA's needs to go full stop. No more hand outs for not being able to retain players and no hand outs for poor performances on the field! It's that simple

Id take that