Which coach will be sacked first ?

[JUBJUB]

Which AFL coach will get sacked first and when.

My tip is Gary Ayres about round 8,if the Crows don't win 4 games in the first 8.

Whats your tips ?

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[sabre_ac]

My Tip is Judge

Roughie will be Mathews

 

[The Dutchman!]

If the Pies don't deliver after Round 8 - Malthouse.

But Judge HAS to go. Supreme hack.

 

[dees01]

This could be a year where there are no mid season sackings. In saying that there is normally at least one. I'll go for the two SA clubs to battle it out.

 

[CrowsOK]

Originally posted by JUBJUB:
Which AFL coach will get sacked first and when.

My tip is Gary Ayres about round 8,if the Crows don't win 4 games in the first 8.

Whats your tips ?

What reason for saying this? The Crows have had plenty of poor starts and plenty of poor seasons. 4 games in the first 8 is as good as they have ever done, in fact!

While AFC has not had a good record at retaining coaches for long terms. Even so they have never sacked a coach mid year. In fact, Cornes is the only coach they have sacked, and that was at the end of the year when he had just one year left on his contract.

Given - AFC has terminated only one year of one coach, and never mid-season, and also given 4 from 8 is pretty good going for Crows, I don't think your predicition has a snowballs chance in hell of becoming true.

 

[Mags]

Judge!

Angry piece of shit!

 

[Frodo]

Judge has to put up or be sacked this season but I think he's getting it right and the Eagles will make the finals, so he wont go.

Gary Ayres was a great player but I really think he has little ability as a coach. He must be in pole position for the boot.

I agre though that there is a good possibility of no sackings until season ends.

Roughie. Malcolm Blight. Reason: St Kilda will be in bottom four.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I'm hoping nobody gets sacked mid-season but if I had to pick a favourite, I would have to say Judge. I agree that Ayres is under pressure at Adelaide and Brisbane would certainly be expecting a lot early. In fact given Brisbane's previous coaching turnovers, I would say that if anyone but Matthews failed this year, they would be gone. Lethal has a pretty strong profile up here now and has helped to raise the awareness of Aussie Rules in Queensland.

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[Mr Ripper]

Dwummy.

 

[Carey_is_King]

Ayres,
Judge,
Drum,
Williams.......
Eenie, meenie, minie, mo!!!

I think I hear the beating of a....DRUM.

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[QT]

Let em sometihng, their is NO chance Mathhews will get the flick. He turned brissie from wooden spooners, to making the finals 2 straight years, making a prelim , and a qualifying final.

I foyu would tell brissie fans after 98 that this would happen, they would most certainly take it

 

[smokey]

I think clubs have now learnt that sacking coaches mid season is not a good idea. Hence you will see little to none for a long time unless it is absolutely necessary. Although I do think Drum and Ayres should be sacked

Smokey

 

[Frodo]

I agree, mid term sackings are too late. They also cost a lot in paying out contracts.

One exception. Blighty. He didn't really want to go back to coaching. If the Saints do badly he may get peed off with things and agree to leave with no payment then go back to TV which he enjoyed.
Blighty is a legend but I'm not convinced his heart is in the job.

 

[sabre_ac]

I can garrantee everyone here who believe drum will go, that he wont.

Dockers were widely tipped last year to finish bottom of the ladder.Apparently they had the weakest list in the league.
We lacked the buckly's and the Cousins, the tredera's and the Harveys.Yet the dockers finished ahead of these clubs.The dockers still managed to overcome this lack of quality,Drum was able to bring the best out of the kids.And the only reason waterhouse is still at the club is due to Drummy.

If anything Drum's performances last season were brilliant.

 

[Roylion]

Matthews as a roughie? You have got to be kidding! On what possible basis could you come to that conclusion? The "safest" coaches are Sheedy, Daniher, Pagan and Matthews. I reiterate what QT said, under Matthews Brisbane has played in a qualifying final and a preliminary final and has just been signed by the Lions until the end of 2003.

If anyone considers Matthews as a roughie to be sacked sometime this year, then I suggest they have a long hard look at the coaching records of Messers Eade and Wallace, as they are worse, or at the very least no better, than Matthews' record at Brisbane. I find it a bit frustrating whenever this topic comes up, why Matthews should be mentioned and not these two (who incidentally I believe are good coaches). Eade may have got the Swans into the 1996 Grand Final, but that was five years ago they didn't play in the finals in 2000 and I don't think from memory they played in the 1999 finals either. Wallace has never got the Bulldogs past the preliminary final and his team has a relatively poor finals record. Brisbane under Matthews has beaten them twice in finals in the 1999 and 2000 seasons...granted at the Gabba......, but we also finished higher than the Bulldogs on the ladder in both seasons.

My opinion...I don't believe any coach will be sacked mid-season, but as to coaches whose contracts may not be renewed or terminated...it could be either
Judge or Ayres or as a roughie: Drum.

 

[SpecialBruce]

Matthew's get the sack? Too late now. It should have been done mid way through this year.

Eade or Drum will go first. Aeyres won't get sacked. No way.

 

[carb70]

In what will be the biggest news story for the year Malcolm Blight who's over rated St. Kilda will be 1-12 after round 13, the only victory will be against Collingwood will totally lose the plot and make his players wear skirts for their round 14 match, which will cause his instant dissmissal from the club and a one way ticket back to the couch with Mike Sheehan.

 

[Shinboners]

Originally posted by Roylion:
If anyone considers Matthews as a roughie to be sacked sometime this year, then I suggest they have a long hard look at the coaching records of Messers Eade and Wallace, as they are worse, or at the very least no better, than Matthews' record at Brisbane.

I think that some people believe that Matthews hasn't gotten the best out of what is without a doubt, a very talented Brisbane list. But as Denis Pagan once noted, those who say that teams underperform rarely state what level of performance should have been reached....so, will the first journo with any balls please state whether the Lions should have 1, 2, or more premiership trophies in the cabinets at the Gabba.

As for Wallace, he's done very well with a list that many feel isn't of a premiership quality, while Eade is in the process of developing a new side for the Swans (check their list from the '96 Grand Final to the one they're taking into 2001).

 

[Eagleheart]

A safe bet is always the coach at richmond.
Sabre the only reason clive is still at the ****ters is that dummy would not release him one year early from his contract to be with his sick father. A lot of you are saying that KJ will get the arse I dont think so tha eagles needed a kick up the arse and i think KJ is the wake up call they need,and the year 2000 is the season they had to have bloody mick malthouse should have got the arse at the end of 98 it has put the eagles behind a year in the rebuilding phase i can bet a brick to london that the pies suck while mick is their coach.

 

[CJH]

I was excited about getting nearly all the way through these posts without someone pointing the bone at Frawley. Sadly eagleheart wrecked the party!!!

This is make or break year for Frawley. Both his predecessors had reasonably successful first years which saw us miss the finals in agonising circumstances. The second season for both Robert Walls and the Giesch were lamentable, with neither of them seeing the year out.

If Danny manages to oversee at least 10 - 12 wins then he will OK. If 12+ wins and we make the finals then he will be safe (and probably made a life member!)

If Port go nowhere this season, then I would expect Williams to get the boot. Aside from that, Ayres then Judge are my most likely.

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[Roylion]

Shinboners,
In my honest opinion I think the press and perhaps a few of the public have over-rated Brisbane's list, which while talented, is really quite young and lacked 'hardness' when it counted in the finals. Also I believe that Brisbane has lost crucial players at the wrong end of the season in 1999 and 2000 and really we haven't had the depth to cover them, unlike Essendon who have a fantastic list. The loss of Voss, McRae and Chris Scott before the 1999 preliminary final and the injuries to Keating, Black and Hart during the match were vital. Likewise the loss of Chris Scott and Daniel Bradshaw before the 2000 Qualifying Final also hurt. I went to that match with the feeling that Bradshaw and Scott's loss would mean we would struggle to match up against Carlton and were VERY unlikely to win. And so it was proven. Keating one of our most important players and a revelation in 1999, did not play a match in 2000.

That's the luck of football. My point is that those who believe Matthews hasn't gotten the best out of Brisbane's list and therefore is a roughie to be sacked, are just barking up the wrong tree.

Wallace and Eade have been at the Bulldogs nd Swans since 1996 for five years and have had more time than Matthews to develop a list capable of winning the premiership. Matthews has had only two years in charge to develop the Lions' list into a premiership side. Some might argue that he, like Eade at the Swans, is rebuilding the Lions after their disastrous 1997 season when they won four games and finished 16th.

This is why I find it ludicrous for people to suggest that Matthews is in danger of being sacked ahead of coaches like Eade and Wallace (who incidentally I think are good coaches), but who have longer chances to work their 'magic'. If Matthews fails to get the Lions into the eight, say in 2002, like Eade failed to get the Swans into the eight in 2000, God help Matthews! I'm sure that people on here will be calling for his head. Meanwhile someone like Eade, who is "rebuilding" does not appear to come under any consideration or scrutiny as a coach who may lose his job during or at the end of 2001.

 

[ant]

CrowsOK, I agree, I don't think we'll sack the coach mid year, we have never done it before and I don't think we'll start now. I reckon Drum might be a chance to get the sack.

 

[Richmondfan#1]

Judge, Ayres or Williams.

 

[Aussie_Roo]

I don't think that anyone will be sacked next year. However, for the point of the topic I will go for Terry Wallace.

 

[Same Old's]

In response to the question at hand, I feel that the umpire's coach will get the sack for reason's we all know about (even thought the season hasn't even started).