Which mature players from SANFL should we Draft

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The afl webite suggested ("Under the Pump") Paul Hunter could be delisted. Could that be because after two years on the rookie list means promotion or out? I thought he had a good year in the SANFL, but that is as maybe. Is there another ruck or ruck / forward in the SANFL who the club might be contemplating as a replacement for Hunter?

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JPetro83 said:
We need to look at a ruckman in the draft this year..
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Next year...

Ruben Flinn

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JPetro83 said:
We need to look at a ruckman in the draft this year..
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Yup, one rookie pick needs to be a project ruck prospect. Certainly wouldn't waste a main draft pick though, that's just dumb drafting.
 

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Bicks said:
Lloyd Meek 19 202cm 105Kg
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I remember seeing the name before, but the size intrigues me on a glance seeing that could end up being a very dominant build for a ruckman.

What's his forward game, and athleticism like?
 
adelaidecrows said:
Based on Eddy and Beech record I suggest none! I dont think we have an urgent need for mature bodies as depth.
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I tend to agree. Unless there's a definite need to be filled, I feel the mature ager's tend to just clog list spots and often take opportunity from young talent as their SANFL form will be naturally at a higher level than an 18-19 year old, but have a definite low ceiling. Often these guys can make good role players, but rarely become A-Graders. There's obcious exceptions, but for the most part I'd rather concentrate on guys with a high ceiling.
 
chels said:
Please forgive the intrusion.

The afl webite suggested ("Under the Pump") Paul Hunter could be delisted. Could that be because after two years on the rookie list means promotion or out? I thought he had a good year in the SANFL, but that is as maybe. Is there another ruck or ruck / forward in the SANFL who the club might be contemplating as a replacement for Hunter?

thank you
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Lobbe - as long as port pay his salary for the next 5 years or however long he has left on that ridiculous contract - does this mean it goes to their cap our ours?
 
Golumless said:
I remember seeing the name before, but the size intrigues me on a glance seeing that could end up being a very dominant build for a ruckman.

What's his forward game, and athleticism like?
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Seen plenty of him, covers the ground well for a big fella, dominant Ruckman, good at ground level, good contested mark and good foot skills for a big bloke, played 3 games of VFL as well as TAC this year and more than held his own against AFL listed Ruckmen making the best players on the 2 occasions. See below Draft Central's bio though I disagree with their assessment of his goalkicking, it's pretty good and it's a fair bet I've seen more of him over the last 2 years than the writer.

OVERVIEW

Lloyd Meek has accomplished what every 19 year-old TAC Cup player hopes to achieve, which is making the necessary improvements to deficiencies which caused the player to go undrafted in their top-age year. For Meek, it was about improving his influence at ground level, using his body more effectively in the contest, and showcasing his ability as a resting forward. In my opinion the first two he could tick off in 2017, and the third is a work in progress. There are still areas for Meek to develop his game, but he has come along in leaps and bounds this season and looks likely to be drafted later in the AFL National Draft.

STRENGTHS:

  • Ruck work
  • Smarts
  • Hands at ground level
  • Contested marking
Lloyd Meek has always had a bigger frame perfect for ruck work, but in 2017 he has really begun adapting to his bigger body and influencing contests through his ruck work. In 2016 there were times where he would not fully use his body to effect, similar to Jarrod Witts pre-Gold Coast days. But this season, Meek has come out of his shell and has lifted his intensity around the football and become, in my opinion, the second best Victorian ruck prospect behind Sam Hayes.

The immediate thing you notice with Meek is his smarts at a stoppage and his knowledge of where his midfielders are at all times. There are countless times where he will tap it behind him knowing a teammate will run to the position, or he will punch it clear to the advantage of his teammates. Likewise when it is his time to go, Meek will get low and shovel the ball out which is rare for a ruckman of his stature, improving his ground level presence this season beyond a doubt.

Finally another area he has continued to develop is his contested marking, which was a feature last year, but with his ability to use his body in marking contests, he has taken it to the next stage in his development. He lifted his average disposals up to 13.6, while his hitouts also rose by six per game. His impact around the ground was noticeable and it has given the recruiters something to think about this year.

IMPROVEMENTS:

  • Goal kicking
  • Mobility
  • Speed
Meek still has a number of areas in which he can improve, and a couple of them are no suprise. At 202cm and 104kg, Meek is not the most agile player and his mobility can often be a concern against more athletic types. While he still covers the ground fairly well, moving between the arcs, he can get caught if his agile opponent gets a few metres on him up forward. Meek will beat his direct opponent one-on-one more often than not, but on the lead where speed is involved, is not his forte.

Secondly, Meek’s contested marking has continued to evolve, but his goal kicking, in particular his set shots, still need work. He clunks terrific grabs inside 50 while resting forward, but can often let himself down with a shank or a kick with more power than placement. If he can work on his goal kicking, he could be that resting ruck who kicks one or two goals a game while forward. As a presence though, Meek can bring the ball to ground when he does not mark it and his follow-up work is really good. His mobility will bring question marks as he could probably not play in a team with a couple of strong, slow forwards.

DRAFT PROJECTION: Late/rookie

SUMMARY:

Lloyd Meek is one of the more likely 19 year-olds to be picked up in this year’s drafts. He has gone from a pigeonholed ruckman with just a big frame, to a player who can provide a presence around the ground. His disposal numbers, marks and hitouts are up in 2017, and he just needs to work on his finishing ability. While his mobility and speed will always be a factor in team selection, Meek does add a point of difference with quick hands at ground level, making him a more attractive prospect than that of a traditional big-bodied ruckman. Rucks of his size are almost always rookied, but with the emergence of Sean Darcy this season after the big Geelong Falcon was taken in the third round last year, Meek could sneak into a club craving a more ready-made ruck replacement.
 
Punchy Bassett said:
Trust me nothing wrong with Duigs' pace, would one of the quickest in the SANFL.

Nick Lower, love what he is doing for the Legs this year, but TBH isn't AFL standard, some of his kicks he shanks big time.
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Both right Punchy, Nick Duigan did get picked up going to Carlton and Nick Lower got another go at Fremantle and Western Bulldogs.
 
James_37 said:
I tend to agree. Unless there's a definite need to be filled, I feel the mature ager's tend to just clog list spots and often take opportunity from young talent as their SANFL form will be naturally at a higher level than an 18-19 year old, but have a definite low ceiling. Often these guys can make good role players, but rarely become A-Graders. There's obcious exceptions, but for the most part I'd rather concentrate on guys with a high ceiling.
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Dom Barry is the only mature ager with the requisite talent that also fits a need for us.

Liam Ryan is obviously the other that many have mentioned from the WAFL, esp if Cameron leaves
 
Can't believe we didn't throw him a Rookie spot last year, but surely,... SUrely,... SURELY Jonty Scharenberg is better value on our list than Paul Hunter, Jono Beech and dare I say it,.. CEY

Get him in this year.... SURELYYYYYY
 
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