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He is just a coach of a footy team man, relax, it will all be over soon. Contrary to popular belief on this board he isn't the worlds worst coach and person. He hasn't got it done when it's mattered the most and has wasted a lot of time trying to but i don't think he is as bad as we make him out to be. This whole narrative that he deserves to be marched out and rotten fruit pelted at him and then fired into the sun on the way out is a bit unhinged.

I think the succession plans that have worked the best have been the ones that have been done respectfully.
People don’t get it, it’s not Hinkley’s fault he’s still coaching Port.
Yeah he’s milked it for all he can get but every person on here would do the same for the money he’s on.
Anyone who says they would have done the right thing and walked away are full of shit.
Koch is our biggest problem.
 
We didn't have a contract in place for a senior coach taking his place in 2019.

Not really sure what you were expecting to be announced yesterday, he was never getting sacked in February, even those predicting he will be gone in the first few rounds of this year are delusional. And even if he did you will probably find something else to be irrationally outraged about.

Most other clubs just sack their obviously failed coaches, they don't let them continue to coach for half a decade.

There is absolutely nothing irrational about a Port supporter disliking Ken Hinkley in 2025. If you like Ken Hinkley at this point, you haven't been paying attention.
 
Most other clubs just sack their obviously failed coaches, they don't let them continue to coach for half a decade.

There is absolutely nothing irrational about a Port supporter disliking Ken Hinkley in 2025. If you like Ken Hinkley at this point, you haven't been paying attention.
I don't rate him as a coach, particularly in taking us to the next level and I haven't for a number of years. There are worse coaches in the system to him though but they haven't been at the one club for 13 years, which is the issue.

But i don't hold the view that yesterday was a disaster, and i don't have the same level of hate towards Hinkley as a person.

I think the way you are carrying on is irrational.

The deal is done. Time to move on now.
 
I don't rate him as a coach, particularly in taking us to the next level and I haven't for a number of years. There are worse coaches in the system to him though but they haven't been at the one club for 13 years, which is the issue.

But i don't hold the view that yesterday was a disaster, and i don't have the same level of hate towards Hinkley as a person.

I think the way you are carrying on is irrational.

The deal is done. Time to move on now.
It's still a year away how are we supposed to move on? Nothing has changed.
 

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I don't rate him as a coach, particularly in taking us to the next level and I haven't for a number of years. There are worse coaches in the system to him though but they haven't been at the one club for 13 years, which is the issue.

But i don't hold the view that yesterday was a disaster, and i don't have the same level of hate towards Hinkley as a person.

I think the way you are carrying on is irrational.

The deal is done. Time to move on now.

Your posts make no sense.

You dont rate Hinkley
You dont think he can take us to the next level
You think he has been here too long

Yet if he made the top 4 and got bundled out in straight sets you were prepared to sign him for even longer.

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Your posts make no sense.

You dont rate Hinkley
You dont think he can take us to the next level
You think he has been here too long

Yet if he made the top 4 and got bundled our in straight sets you were prepared to sign him for even longer.

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Who said anything about signing him for any longer. He is seeing out the contract that was given to him and moving aside at the end of the year.

I've got doubts about Hinkley's coaching ability but i still think he can take us deep and i don't know maybe this is the year he finally proves himself as a coach and he can go out with a bang and if he doesn't he just leaves and we move on with Josh Carr either way.
 
Did he buy a house in Adelaide, or is he just renting the display home for the roller blinds mob? If he bought it, then it will be when he gets an offer he likes, otherwise when he can max his payout.
i live close by. I'll keep a lookout for the 'for sale' sign. Admittedly I've been hoping to see one since 2016.
 
I don't rate him as a coach, particularly in taking us to the next level and I haven't for a number of years. There are worse coaches in the system to him though but they haven't been at the one club for 13 years, which is the issue.

But i don't hold the view that yesterday was a disaster, and i don't have the same level of hate towards Hinkley as a person.

I think the way you are carrying on is irrational.

The deal is done. Time to move on now.

Yesterday wasn't a disaster, it was the best news we've heard on the Hinkley front.

That doesn't mean we can't be frustrated that we're spending yet another year under him. Nobody in the AFL world would bat an eyelid if we had just sacked him and replaced him with Carr full time today. In fact, nobody would have batted an eyelid if we'd done in the 2023, 2022 or 2021 postseasons, either. Even his biggest supporters know he's been on some extremely borrowed time for years now. Why give him another year?
 
Yesterday wasn't a disaster, it was the best news we've heard on the Hinkley front.

That doesn't mean we can't be frustrated that we're spending yet another year under him. Nobody in the AFL world would bat an eyelid if we had just sacked him and replaced him with Carr full time today. In fact, nobody would have batted an eyelid if we'd done in the 2023, 2022 or 2021 postseasons, either. Even his biggest supporters know he's been on some extremely borrowed time for years now. Why give him another year?
He gets another year because the club is run by a talk show host.
It’s that simple.
 
Yesterday wasn't a disaster, it was the best news we've heard on the Hinkley front.

That doesn't mean we can't be frustrated that we're spending yet another year under him. Nobody in the AFL world would bat an eyelid if we had just sacked him and replaced him with Carr full time today. In fact, nobody would have batted an eyelid if we'd done in the 2023, 2022 or 2021 postseasons, either. Even his biggest supporters know he's been on some extremely borrowed time for years now. Why give him another year?
Yeah, I don't know how Chewy thought this would be universally hated by the fanbase.

We have an actual countdown to the demise of the worst loser fraud charlatan mountebank.

I still have to see him walk out the door but the end is nigh and depending on how the season goes nigher.

You would assume a lot of fans will put severe heat on him if the circumstances allow.

This year is going to be weird but it was always going to be weird in a contract year with a coach whose limitations are known by all and really everyone is just a bit over it.
 
Yeah, I don't know how Chewy thought this would be universally hated by the fanbase.

We have an actual countdown to the demise of the worst loser fraud charlatan mountebank.

I still have to see him walk out the door but the end is nigh and depending on how the season goes nigher.

You would assume a lot of fans will put severe heat on him if the circumstances allow.

This year is going to be weird but it was always going to be weird in a contract year with a coach whose limitations are known by all and really everyone is just a bit over it.
Because the result we ended up with isn't the one it looked like we were getting.

There was a lot going on behind the scenes.

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Deep down part of me has saddistically been thinking, since watching Kochie's smugness about our program in the press conference, that the best result for us as an entire club would be to see us bomb big time this year. Finish in the bottom 6, sack Hinkley early, and start to have calls for a full rebuild echoing out.

His belief that we 'never rebuild' and that not rebuilding equals a successful program needs to be challenged. We just won an SANFL spoon and we're mortgaging our future on shit trades every year, it could go belly up at any time, and we're no closer to a flag at all. Meanwhile Richmond just won 3 flags, who gives a shit if they are rebuilding. There's this fear of our small crowds coming out again, and our club struggling financially, but it's a crock. We're one of the most boring teams to watch for the last few years, we have zero atmosphere at our games and a largely disenchanted fan base which can be heard loud and clear at the games. If those people are turning up now, the numbers aren't going to be catastrophic if we bombed a bit.
 

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Hinkley would be a Charlton Heston fan.
We’ll have to prise it from his cold dead hands.

Given we’ll likely make finals, I’m going to say Elimination Final.
 
Deep down part of me has saddistically been thinking, since watching Kochie's smugness about our program in the press conference, that the best result for us as an entire club would be to see us bomb big time this year. Finish in the bottom 6, sack Hinkley early, and start to have calls for a full rebuild echoing out.

His belief that we 'never rebuild' and that not rebuilding equals a successful program needs to be challenged. We just won an SANFL spoon and we're mortgaging our future on shit trades every year, it could go belly up at any time, and we're no closer to a flag at all. Meanwhile Richmond just won 3 flags, who gives a shit if they are rebuilding. There's this fear of our small crowds coming out again, and our club struggling financially, but it's a crock. We're one of the most boring teams to watch for the last few years, we have zero atmosphere at our games and a largely disenchanted fan base which can be heard loud and clear at the games. If those people are turning up now, the numbers aren't going to be catastrophic if we bombed a bit.

I had some moron on the club facebook post tell me we'd been the 3rd most successful club of the Hinkley era behind Sydney and Geelong, leaving out 2 clubs that won 3 flags each in that time.

The way some Port supporters have gleefully skipped into accepting mediocrity by Koch is absolutely insane.

The easiest argument against the "never bottom out" strategy is that despite them trying to paint 2012 as some sort of deep abyss the likes of which no club has ever returned from, we actually finished above 4 clubs that year. 3 of them have made Grand Finals and 2 have won flags.

But it all makes sense when you realise that under Koch, winning a premiership isn't one of our top 50 KPIs. It's just something that would be nice if it happened by accident.
 
He gets another year because the club is run by a talk show host.
It’s that simple.

Yep.

Thanks again to the super robust footy media in this country for never questioning the fact that the man with effectively total power over a 155 year old football is a morning TV buffoon.
 
If we happen to take an extra step this year it's impossible to credit Ken with it because of the other potential variables involved. What role is Josh Carr playing this season? Is it limited to normal assistant duties? We've injected new players and made some forced changes. Also, what value is it if a playing group requires a coach leaving the club to inspire them to greatness? Even this would just be an improvement in the players themselves maximizing their potential rather than any strategic or tactical growth. If they wanted to "do it for Kenny" they could have done it last year before he announced his exit. At least then you can say "well maybe they'll do it again next year". If we win the grand final do we extend Ken for a year and say he's "definitely leaving at the end of 2026" just to get them to play out of their skin for another season?
 

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I had some moron on the club facebook post tell me we'd been the 3rd most successful club of the Hinkley era behind Sydney and Geelong, leaving out 2 clubs that won 3 flags each in that time.

The way some Port supporters have gleefully skipped into accepting mediocrity by Koch is absolutely insane.

The easiest argument against the "never bottom out" strategy is that despite them trying to paint 2012 as some sort of deep abyss the likes of which no club has ever returned from, we actually finished above 4 clubs that year. 3 of them have made Grand Finals and 2 have won flags.

But it all makes sense when you realise that under Koch, winning a premiership isn't one of our top 50 KPIs. It's just something that would be nice if it happened by accident.

Looking through a capitalist lens this is absolutely true though.

Our product sells more when we are consistently good than it did when we were great and dipped.

The customers prefer to drive a Subaru every day rather than a Ferrari one week and a Lada the next.
 
In the press conference Koch said that a successful year is making finals.

What do you do with such a low bar?

Almost 50% chance without doing anything.
Kens record/Kochies wet dream
8/12 "successful" seasons
A ladder position of 6th before scary finals in Kens tenure.

White noise
1 finals win in a game where the season is on the line since 2014
0 prelim wins in 12 years
0 GF appearances in 12 years
 
Looking through a capitalist lens this is absolutely true though.

Our product sells more when we are consistently good than it did when we were great and dipped.

The customers prefer to drive a Subaru every day rather than a Ferrari one week and a Lada the next.

I'm not really sure this is true.

I don't believe the membership numbers, but looking at home and away season home attendances on Footywire, we had higher attendance in 2015-16-17-18 than we did in either of 2023 or 2024 when we finished in the top 4. Some of that can be put down to Adelaide Oval being slightly more shiny and new, but we also didn't have Gather Round to give the average a boost either.

Also despite membership numbers being effectively made up, we've moved down the membership ladder over the last decade, so we're doing worse compared to other clubs generally.

I think being a comfortable top 8 side who crashes and burns in finals will begin to have diminishing returns. People need hope.
 
I'm not really sure this is true.

I don't believe the membership numbers, but looking at home and away season home attendances on Footywire, we had higher attendance in 2015-16-17-18 than we did in either of 2023 or 2024 when we finished in the top 4. Some of that can be put down to Adelaide Oval being slightly more shiny and new, but we also didn't have Gather Round to give the average a boost either.

Also despite membership numbers being effectively made up, we've moved down the membership ladder over the last decade, so we're doing worse compared to other clubs generally.

I think being a comfortable top 8 side who crashes and burns in finals will begin to have diminishing returns. People need hope.

You’re right long term. But when have they thought long term?

All shirt and mid term with this lot trying to keep their jobs.
 

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