Which side fails to play in September?

[jonnobackpocket]

Not at all. I just don’t buy Brisbane this year at all. Percentage is always the tell tale sign.

Its Adelaide, Geelong and then daylight. I'd be very surprised if they get the W in Perth against Fremantle.

 

[Hawkk]

Point still stands. Percentage followed by teams that are in the top 4 for points scored and points coincided is always the tell tale sign. Fremantle also has very ordinary points differential too.

Let’s see where these teams end up after next week. This year it’s Adelaide, Geelong and then daylight

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Point still stands. Percentage followed by teams that are in the top 4 for points scored and points coincided is always the tell tale sign. Fremantle also has very ordinary points differential too.

Let’s see where these teams end up after next week. This year it’s Adelaide, Geelong and then daylight

So having the toughest draw of all time doesn’t contribute to percentage? So have beaten Collingwood, Geelong, Hawks, Freo, Suns, bulldogs and if not for kicking ten points in a row would have beaten the crows over there, but we still no good hey. Great assessment.

 

[YeoShuey]

Collingwood. They are shit.

Melbourne always play their GF against them.

 

[The Tilt]

Anyone else's 'Ladder predictor' doing wierd sh!t? I have Collingwood winning by 20 next week, and yet the predictor is wiping 5 %points from their percentage (bringing them down to around 118).

 

[Hawkk]

So having the toughest draw of all time doesn’t contribute to percentage? So have beaten Collingwood, Geelong, Hawks, Freo, Suns, bulldogs and if not for kicking ten points in a row would have beaten the crows over there, but we still no good hey. Great assessment.

Not really.

I’d be concerned with the games that you also dropped against Melbourne, Sydney, GWS + Collingwood (at home), the Gold Coast (by 14 goals), Adelaide and the draw against North. Which because of the pathetic percentage is the only reason the Lions are not in a huge dog fight to make the top 8 due to their terrible percentage.

The most difficult draw was Hawthorn in 2013. That season they were drawn all seven of the previous years top 8 in the first seven weeks (including away games to West Coast and Adelaide) after backing up from a Grand Final. That season the Hawks went 7-1 (131%) on the way to a 19-3, 136% season.

Compare that to 2016 where they finished with a similar win-loss record but scratched out a 115%. In that season they ended up getting rolled in straight sets against two sides that had vastly superior percentages. Not many sides lose a game by 14 goals in the last eight weeks of the season and then win a flag…even with ‘the most difficult draw in history.’

The only recent team I can think of that did that is Collingwood in 1990 who were spanked by 15 goals three weeks before the finals and ended up winning the flag.

 

[The Feeder Club]

So having the toughest draw of all time doesn’t contribute to percentage? So have beaten Collingwood, Geelong, Hawks, Freo, Suns, bulldogs and if not for kicking ten points in a row would have beaten the crows over there, but we still no good hey. Great assessment.

Spot on. That is one of the most cooked assessments ever, and I read cooked assessments on here every day

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Not really. I’d be concerned with the games that you also dropped against Melbourne, Sydney, GWS + Collingwood (at home), the Gold Coast (by 14 goals), Adelaide and the draw against North. Which because of the pathetic percentage has kept you out of the top 8 scrap.

The most difficult draw was Hawthorn in 2013. That season they were drawn all seven of the previous years top 8 in the first eight weeks of the season after backing up from a Grand Final. They ended up going 7-1 on the way to a 18-4, 135% season. Compare that to 2016 where they finished with a similar win-loss record but scratched out a 115%. Ended up getting rolled in straight sets against two sides that had vastly superior percentages.

Not many sides lose a game by 14 goals in the last eight weeks of the season and then win a flag…even with ‘the most difficult draw in history.’

What ever you say, last year there was no way we were winning it from 5th, 44 points down against GWS, then it was impossible for us to beat Geelong at the G after the previous 2 weeks and then apparently we were going to lose to a much more talented Swans team. So we should be concerned about the games we have lost but take nothing out of beating all the top sides…….right. Horrendous draw, injuries every where and still a chance to make top 4, we don’t need people to ‘buy’ us as you put it.

 

[BigPond101]

Collingwood. They are shit.

Melbourne always play their GF against them.

Collingwood can't drop out. They would need to lose to Melbourne by over 200 points and then Freo would have to lose to the Dogs in a very close game so their % doesnt drop any further.

 

[YeoShuey]

Collingwood can't drop out. They would need to lose to Melbourne by over 200 points and then Freo would have to lose to the Dogs in a very close game so their % doesnt drop any further.

Sad.

 

[Hawkk]

What ever you say, last year there was no way we were winning it from 5th, 44 points down against GWS, then it was impossible for us to beat Geelong at the G after the previous 2 weeks and then apparently we were going to lose to a much more talented Swans team. So we should be concerned about the games we have lost but take nothing out of beating all the top sides…….right. Horrendous draw, injuries every where and still a chance to make top 4, we don’t need people to ‘buy’ us as you put it.

But was it ‘the most difficult draw in AFL history?’

 

[YeoShuey]

Has to be Bulldogs or Freo then, right?

 

[mighty_lions]

But was it ‘the most difficult draw in AFL history?’

is this a real question? the lowest place double up side is last years grand finalists who are having a winning season in 10th

 

[The Nostradamus]

Has to be Bulldogs or Freo then, right?

Yep

I’d rather dogs make it they have a list to make finals more exciting

Fraudmantle can miss

 

[Daka]

Yep

I’d rather dogs make it they have a list to make finals more exciting

Fraudmantle can miss

I don't think the Dogs play consistent enough footy to win or make it exciting. Freo aren't much better

 

[BigPond101]

Has to be Bulldogs or Freo then, right?

With a small chance of Gold Coast if they lose their last two and the dogs beat Freo

 

[YeoShuey]

With a small chance of Gold Coast if they lose their last two and the dogs beat Freo

We smashed Port today. Huge failure by Gold Coast if they lose that next week

 

[Dazb86]

Western Bulldogs have not been much better either. They belted GWS a fortnight ago which was a big surprise to many but they are just as likely to capitulate with all the pressure now back on them.

Honestly think you're over estimating how 'bad' we've been. Our worst loss this year has been by 22 points.

 

[The Nostradamus]

We smashed Port today. Huge failure by Gold Coast if they lose that next week

Even if they do lose that they won’t lose to Essendon so they are safe

It’s dogs vs freo

 

[The Nostradamus]

I don't think the Dogs play consistent enough footy to win or make it exciting. Freo aren't much better

True but keen for Sam Darcy, bont, etc in big finals games

 

[YeoShuey]

Yep

I’d rather dogs make it they have a list to make finals more exciting

Fraudmantle can miss

As long as Brisbane or Geelong win it all, I don't care

 

[GoldbergsGold]

Unreal teams need 15 wins to make finals, this year, that's a first I think. I thought 14 would be the requirement. And unreal 16 wins won't even get you a top 4 spot, last year it gave a team 2nd spot.

 

[Jugada]

Unreal teams need 15 wins to make finals, this year, that's a first I think. I thought 14 would be the requirement. And unreal 16 wins won't even get you a top 4 spot, last year it gave a team 2nd spot.

15 wins likely won't even make finals for one team

 

[Dazb86]

I don't think the Dogs play consistent enough footy to win or make it exciting. Freo aren't much better

Dogs losses this year are...

Pies @ the MCG - 6 point loss
Freo @ Optus Stadium - 16 point loss
Brisbane @ Norwood - 21 point loss
Gold Coast @ Darwin - 10 point loss
Geelong @ GMHBA - 14 point loss
Hawthorn @ Marvel - 22 point loss
Adelaide @ Marvel - 11 point loss
Brisbane @ Gabba - 10 point loss

So we really aren't that far off. Especially considering most of those games weren't at Marvel.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Hawks aren't on our level. They're an easy kill for the top 4 come finals.

Oh boy this may very well age well